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Huzzah! This is desperately needed! Thank goodness they got this through! Three cheers for our Democratic process, we're not done yet!

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autotldr 7 hs ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)

The House passed its $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill early Saturday, sending the massive proposal to the Senate as Democrats rush to approve more aid before unemployment programs expire.

Lawmakers will offer amendments, and the chamber will likely pass a different version of the bill, meaning the House would have to pass the Senate's plan or the chambers would have to craft a final proposal in a conference committee.

After the Senate parliamentarian ruled the bill could not include a $15 pay floor under reconciliation rules, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Sens.

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autotldr 7 hs ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)

The House passed its $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief bill early Saturday, sending the massive proposal to the Senate as Democrats rush to approve more aid before unemployment programs expire.

Lawmakers will offer amendments, and the chamber will likely pass a different version of the bill, meaning the House would have to pass the Senate's plan or the chambers would have to craft a final proposal in a conference committee.

After the Senate parliamentarian ruled the bill could not include a $15 pay floor under reconciliation rules, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Sens.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Senate^#1 bill^#2 House^#3 Democrat^#4 pass^#5

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Gary30752 7 hs ago

More borrowed money and debt, most of which has nothing to do with Covid.

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SublimePvM 7 hs ago

Prepare to be wildly downvoted my friend. One cannot simply criticize “equity” bills

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drewtoocool 6 hs ago

I think this will back fire on you. I think you will get downvoted and the other guy will get hella upvotes... what do i know tho🤷🏼‍♂️

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SublimePvM 6 hs ago

Hey, I hope that’s the outcome for his/her sake. Better one of us gets upvoted than the both of us get shitcanned. I don’t care about karma, I post replies like that as a show of solidarity because others have done it for me when I’ve posted contrarian opinions

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drewtoocool 6 hs ago

I honestly don’t even remember what either of you said... i just said that cuz idk why

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je61 6 hs ago

Better than just minting money to big banks like in previous crises I guess

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Gary30752 6 hs ago

You might be able to say that if all the money was actually going to American citizens who were negatively affected by Covid...loss of employment, loss of business, etc...but that isn't what's happening with this legislation. They're simply throwing money around because they can, and much of it to other countries. And Republicans do it just as well as the Democrats.

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je61 6 hs ago

Ya I meant as opposed to the traditional method of just giving money to banks, as opposed to direct stimulus to people. Not republican vs dem etc Also interested how you'd go about making sure only those who really do need assistance get a check?

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Gary30752 5 hs ago

You really can't, which again goes to the point of the legislation largely being about throwing money around because they can.

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je61 5 hs ago

So you're saying no money would be better then? I am trying to ubderstand

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Gary30752 5 hs ago

I'm saying that given the nature of the legislation, it would be better to not go deeper in debt.

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je61 5 hs ago

I guess I'm just tired of hearing complaints with no ideas or suggestions for improvement

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Gary30752 5 hs ago

Not going deeper in debt and reducing existing debt would be an improvement. So would keeping our tax dollars in the US instead of sending them around the world.

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SublimePvM 6 hs ago

I definitely don’t care to defend bailing out bankers, but somehow handing over my tax money to fat cats still feels better than knowing it’s going to be sent overseas to fund things like transgender studies within the Pakistani military, a military that in some form or another played a role in one of my good friends being killed by the Taliban.

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Gary30752 6 hs ago

Some people can't handle the truth.

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ktojm 10 hs ago

who r the two dems that voted against this

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ShhhWeKnow 1 h ago

You can find it here: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202149 Scroll down you can filter by vote and party. The answer is Golden of Maine and Schrader of Oregon. No Republicans voted to support the bill.

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johnlennontucker :flag-or: Oregon 10 hs ago

^ This

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uyxd 10 hs ago

Expected news of course, now how likely is it to pass in the senate?

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californiaavocados 10 hs ago

Guaranteed to pass without the min wage hike. Impossible to pass with it intact.

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LATourGuide 10 hs ago

The minimum wage increase was a planned concession, the real goal is UBI and that will pass sometime in the next 8 years

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henryptung :flag-ca: California 9 hs ago

>real goal is UBI and that will pass sometime in the next 8 years Real goal is right, though honestly I think we both know that timeline is aggressive. In the meantime, though, concessions are based on what's currently possible. If we don't have the votes right now, we pass what we can and keep working. Stagnation is death.

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californiaavocados 10 hs ago

I think UBI is going to be a tough sell for even some moderate democrats.

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LATourGuide 9 hs ago

I think companies like Walmart and Amazon love the idea so it's likely to pass.

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Wildfire48 8 hs ago

Huh? Why would they love UBI?

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LATourGuide 8 hs ago

Because just like with the stimulus packages, they will see a big boost in sales as a result. They already rely heavily on social programs to subsidize wages.

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uyxd 10 hs ago

What are the chances the senate passes it?

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gregatronn :flag-ca: California 10 hs ago

It will pass if it doesn't have the min wage piece in it.

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AvenDonn 10 hs ago

Government are dumb. Why give stimulus if they could just YOLO on GME?

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kgsydh 10 hs ago

First, they promised it. Second, they can still collect taxes from all of us who YOLO and earned $$$. Third, You will spend those profits and help the economy up. Fourth, everyone is happy, so is the government. 😊 this is what politic about. What else couldbe better than this?

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po00on Yesterday

YouTube & Google. Ministry of Truth.

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coinfeeds-bot Yesterday

tldr; YouTube has removed CoinDesk's channel offline, citing "severe or repeated violations" of its community guidelines. YouTube also cut off the livestream of CoinDesk TV's daily show "All About Bitcoin" during the broadcast, claiming it violated the platform's "harmful and dangerous" policy. "We're attempting to get in direct touch with YouTube," CoinDesk CEO Kevin Worth said.

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marcovincitori Yesterday

I am a new in the crypto world so I have seen a couple of his videos and thought he was very good; however, what creeps me out of this Guy is that he doesn't blink!!!!

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Excier Yesterday

Anybody got some speculations we can chew on?

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lbalan79 Yesterday

Pure joke but had to say it: Google is looking to add Bitcoin to its treasury so has a vested interest to keep prices down. Edit: Looks like the channel is back up. Maybe they finished buying the dip.

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fuckofakaboom Yesterday

Not putting anybody down, I’m just curious. I’m 40ish. YouTube only means finding how-to fix videos or random shit for my kids. Anybody my age use it for investing info? I wouldn’t think to look there unless there’s a specific reason I find doing DD.

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d3tra Yesterday

Coin Bureau - the only YouTuber this subreddit shills

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Machinegamer Yesterday

This x1000000

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Osemka8 To the moon! Yesterday

Speaking from experience, there is absolute flood of shit there. You have to dig really, really hard to find something useful. But there are gems out there.

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d3tra Yesterday

I've clicked “do not recommend this channel” so many times. I have no clue why I can't just block Bitboy Crypto! That way, I don't ever have to risk seeing another horrendous pump and dump or his terrible technical analysis again.

Someone on here said it before and It really resonated with me. He's the Alex Jones of crypto, and I'm reasonably certain he probably agrees with his politics, too lmao. Such a scumbag :/

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Machinegamer Yesterday

He’s trash and I can’t get him out of my feed it’s so annoying. He should be banned just for his stupid thumbnails.

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mr-lazy_eye Redditor for 3 months. Yesterday

"But we have 3 green dots, it's time to buy!" You mean that great TA? Lol. He's mentioned Alex Jones more than once. I watched him for about 2 weeks and learned real quick he's just a shiller and a bullshitter.

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Osemka8 To the moon! Yesterday

Atrotious user. Absolute shit of a channel...

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THICC_POLLINATORS Yesterday

Imagine letting Bitboy remain up and active but taking down CD.

Makes sense, good job.

Decentralized media when?

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Osemka8 To the moon! Yesterday

Imagime that, huh? That arsehole doesn't seem to have any trouble with his channel.

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THICC_POLLINATORS Yesterday

I am looking forward to that POS having massive legal problems. Not sure where or when but I am waiting. Dude is pure scum and takes advantage of others. He is a super friendly looking snake in the grass, but a snake in the grass he is.

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vic25qc Yesterday

Youtube making shady decisions. Sky is blue

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DeparturePlane Yesterday

I don’t particularly love coindesk but he’s less of a shill than most other crypto youtubers, this seems rather unfair.

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masterJinsei Yesterday

That is why we need a decentrilized YouTube where we can shil whatever we want :)

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d3tra Yesterday

MoonTube

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masterJinsei Yesterday

🌝🌝🌝🌝

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StatisticalMan Yesterday

Seriously they suspend coindesk but not the 10,000 youtube "stars" shilling every shitcoin on the planet making O faces while engaged in pump and dumps.

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coinfeeds-bot Yesterday

tldr; YouTube has removed CoinDesk's channel offline, citing "severe or repeated violations" of its community guidelines. YouTube also cut off the livestream of CoinDesk TV's daily show "All About Bitcoin" during the broadcast, claiming it violated the platform's "harmful and dangerous" policy. "We're attempting to get in direct touch with YouTube," CoinDesk CEO Kevin Worth said.

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007fan007 6 days ago

I didn’t know coinbase was going public. Interesting.

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degeneratehighroller 6 days ago

Its because we like the coins.

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HighlightPublic7473 6 days ago

What all of you Simps don’t realize is Coinbase Ipo is going to be huge not because if it’s functionality we all know it’s shit right now. But North Americans will use them over anyone else.

it’s something they can trust
they aren’t just an exchange for small Investors, they do massive transactions.

And also, what you guys aren’t seeing is their brilliance in design. 99% offline storage to protect assets. It’s not hacker proof nothing is, but extreme hacker resistance.

It’s like the new Fort Knox. A new bank. Invest.

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Far-Green-547 6 days ago

it's funny how people are still butthurt about Coinbase going down from like 3 years ago. Startup tech companies need time to mature and they've become more reliable since then.

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PsychologicalCost5 6 days ago

It was 75b two days ago, lol.

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naIamgood Silver | QC: CC 26 6 days ago

I don't think I will buying this, I would rather buy a token of a dex.

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davis946 Crypto Nerd | QC: CC 6 days ago

This shit gonna dump so hard then ima scoop up some shares

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sjgokou 6 days ago

Sadly, its a really $h!+y exchange.

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Eldermuerto 6 days ago

Don't buy coinbase shares. It's a terrible exchange to begin with.

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discontinuity9 Crypto Nerd | QC: NANO 6 days ago

Why? They stop being a functional exchange when volume heats up.

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SaneLad 6 days ago

Absurdly overvalued. If they are raising at $100b, they must be pricing the listing at $200b, that's 20% the market cap of Bitcoin. More than the $116b market cap of Schwab. And they have no technical moat over any other crypto exchange. It's all brand value and user count, and we all know that most people trade with multiple accounts.

I'm not saying they won't grow beyond $200b in fundamental value over the years. But at this point in time, I think I'm better off investing directly in Bitcoin. The value of Coinbase is 100% linked to Bitcoin anyways.

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joyeous13 6 days ago

Do we have any idea when the direct listing will happen?

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bitsteiner 6 days ago

That is 10% of Bitcoin valuation. Either Coinbase is massively overvalued or Bitcoin massively undervalued.

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SaneLad 6 days ago

Both

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Cockatiel Gold | QC: CC 21 | r/pcmasterrace 13 6 days ago

To give you an idea, that is right behind Blackrock and AMD. It would listed at #71 in the fortune 500. A fortune 100 company out of IPO.

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dani_bonnet 6 days ago

So let’s short them? Or will this actually last. Still waiting +2 months for them to get back to a support email. This company doesn’t even have enough customer service staff to handle anything.

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Cockatiel Gold | QC: CC 21 | r/pcmasterrace 13 6 days ago

This is a crypto sub... right? or am I in /whoooosh again

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dani_bonnet 6 days ago

In you opinion everything only goes up even a crap company that can hardly ever handle increased volume without shutting down trading for their customers? Seems like you have the wsb mentality more than me.

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Cockatiel Gold | QC: CC 21 | r/pcmasterrace 13 6 days ago

Maybe I'm just more practical and see a company that is growing faster than it can hire, is having record profits every quarter, is the most prominent name in NA crypto exchanges, has an ENORMOUS amount of crypto being held under custody for institutional money, and has been on multiple occasions the number 1 app on the Google play store and ios store. Not to mention that they were given a 100 billion dollar valuation. So clearly the world sees how good of a company they are but, no we are are all wrong - clearly you know better. /s

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dani_bonnet 5 days ago

Yeah but this customer service problem has existed for way more than a few years. That’s not based on growth it’s based on full ignorance. Show me the numbers that show they are worth 100 billion and their revenue is even near that. You can’t because it doesn’t exist. This is a hyper inflated valuation that will crash eventually it’s just a matter of when, not if. The bull IPO market eventually will end, crypto will stay but coinbase is just the middleman that eventually will be cut away through better technology.

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joyrideboo Tin 6 days ago

Please take that comment back to wsb. What you’re gonna try to short every company? You do realize coinbase is like one of the biggest crypto markets In North America. Like the fuck? Their share prices are going to come out in about 300-400 range once they go public im buying the fuck out of them. Going to expose them to people that want to get into crypto without actually investing into crypto. Coinbase is going to be huge. Short them ...fucking a

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s1ravarice 5 days ago

Best place to buy the stock for the IPO? I’ve been using trading212 for most things but I’d love to get in on this. It’s only going to help boost crypto prices too.

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dani_bonnet 6 days ago

Yeah just check their twitter support account there is literally hundreds of thousands of people locked out of their account/having issues and they don’t care at all to help any of them. Do you really think a company like that should be worth 100 billion? Do you really think that’s what we should promote with crypto community? It’s not dumb shorting eliminates the fluff from the market and in my opinion coinbase is nothing but fluff.

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MyTAisUP 6 days ago

You want to short them because they are gaining new customers faster than they can expand their C.S. department? Teh fook?

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dani_bonnet 6 days ago

I want to short them because I hate them and they are not worth this much.

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MyTAisUP 5 days ago

No shit, but imagine using anger to make good trades....... oooof

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truestg0at redditor for 3 months 6 days ago

The RH of crypto

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Wonderful_Waltz_6440 5 days ago

RH’s crypto is the RH of crypto. Can’t even withdraw like you can with coinbase lol.

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unbelizeable1 6 days ago

Not even an understatement. Same level of customer support.

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NextTrillion Tin | r/Politics 19 6 days ago

Holy mother of god, BTC just passed a trillion in value. To think a bank would be worth 1/10th of BTC sounds insane to me.

Imagine there was $10 trillion worth of gold on this planet, and the bank that handles (some / most / 50% / ???) of gold transactions is worth $1 trillion. Sure, they make some $$ from silver (altcoins), but damn that sounds insane.

Not even $1 billion in revenue. Over 100x p/s ratio. Investors must be banking on serious growth over the next few years, but I’m gonna sit this one out for now.

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wearehalfwaythere 6 days ago

The recent IPO’s are causing this I think. SNOW, DASH, PLTR, ABNB. These IPO’s went nuts and the massive stock increase didn’t necessarily equate to more cash for the company. The analysts were blamed for “undervaluing” the valuations. But in what universe should door dash be a $65 billion company?? Other companies like AFRM actually delayed their own IPOs to let the valuation hype cool down, but it looks like a company like Coinbase won’t be able to escape the spotlight.

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NextTrillion Tin | r/Politics 19 6 days ago

Is it because they have really low share floats? When I see $200, $300, etc. share prices, I don’t even feel the need to look up outstanding shares. Of course low floats can really sting on the way back down.

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blockchainant Crypto God | QC: EOS 6 days ago

Yea but that’s not how stocks are valued. They’re valued based on projected earnings. Coinbase doesn’t own that much BTC so to make a book value comparison is pretty silly.

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NextTrillion Tin | r/Politics 19 6 days ago

Rookie much? If you help facilitate widget transactions and the theoretical value of most of the widgets in existence is 10x the valuation of your company, your company is seriously overvalued. Especially considering that a large portion of those widgets aren’t actively traded and are simply being held as a store of value. >”[stocks are] valued based on projected earnings.” False. Company valuations are based on many metrics. I take it you’ve never earned a dividend? Ever heard of a moat? 😆 Also, who said anything about book value?

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Basher459 6 days ago

Rest In Peace, rookie.

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volatileutopia 6 days ago

Ugh they should of let us users have a shot before going open market I was saving to get ready for that but I'm glad it is going well. I've used cb since 12' and never had an issue

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PsychologicalCost5 6 days ago

Private allocations are occurring now

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DemApples4u 6 days ago

Look at voyager (vygvf) they're undervalued imo and will benefit from coinbase ipo/valuation if you're interested

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bpark2808 6 days ago

Fax

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volatileutopia 6 days ago

I will. Thanks

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OnLY399_ 6 days ago

This has got to be overpriced

- Yoyager digital 2 billion market gap

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beaker38 6 days ago

Has anyone of the date for the public offering?

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thetagodfather redditor for 2 months 6 days ago

Have same question, been waiting for it forrrrevvver and we keep getting these teasers Now is the perfect time to go live from a valuation standpoint The whole world is watching

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Squating_textbooks 6 days ago

The regulatory clarity is what is needed to ensure they can go IPO without later coming into the SEC's attention. The US is so fucking behind on this. From a valuation standpoint they will only continue to grow as the OTC and institutional investors continue to join.

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thetagodfather redditor for 2 months 6 days ago

Great points SEC, CFTC, and IRS all have competing paradigms for the space

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Squating_textbooks 6 days ago

Yea plus the overlap of the banking regulator requirements. They allowed banks to use crypto for interbank value transfer, makes me bullish long term. The space just needs a little bit more legal backing for it to flourish in the US.

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WallyBallsIsMyAlias 6 days ago

It hasn’t been announced yet.

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coinfeeds-bot 6 days ago

tldr; Cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase was valued at over $100 billion in a recent private market share sale ahead of its upcoming public listing, Axios has learned from multiple sources. It's unclear if the secondary share sale is still useful to determine a reference point for direct listing, given the upward surge.

This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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Kerath 6 days ago

I wonder if the stock will dump 10% every time Coinbase pulls the plug to stop people from buying the dip.

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SaneLad 6 days ago

No, because most of the big investors will be clueless fund managers who know jack shit about crypto trading.

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dmiddy 6 days ago

They'll buy 3 more small AWS servers, call it good, and give the rest out as performance bonuses

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algorithmicAlchemist redditor for 3 weeks 6 days ago

Yeah, their growing pains need to be a thing of the past. They need to be able to handle large increases in traffic better than their track record. I’m mean, my Coinbase app price feeds are still down, wtf

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scrufdawg 6 days ago

> my Coinbase app price feeds are still down, wtf Seems to be a you problem. Working fine here.

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algorithmicAlchemist redditor for 3 weeks 6 days ago

Location, location, location

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coinfeeds-bot 6 days ago

tldr; Cryptocurrency exchange Coinbase was valued at over $100 billion in a recent private market share sale ahead of its upcoming public listing, Axios has learned from multiple sources. It's unclear if the secondary share sale is still useful to determine a reference point for direct listing, given the upward surge.

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GroteWolf 6 days ago

That’s insane, still transferred my coins tho, less fees for me.

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MrHockster 3 - 4 years account age. 100 - 200 comment karma. 6 days ago

Crazy that's 300% more than they were projecting last month!

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BoyScout22 Platinum | QC: CC 55 1 day ago

satoshi would never use coinbase.

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horsecartefxe 1 day ago

Call options anyone? In the words of Lenny Kravitz, baby it ain’t over till it’s over.

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scycon 1 day ago

Bullish AF on coinbase. Regardless of your thoughts on buttcoins, when there’s a gold rush sell pickaxes. Coinbase is printing money on the way up and on the way down.

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deadfootskin 2 days ago

Cant wait for higher interest rates so this fantasy economy gets a cold shower

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VodkaHaze 1 day ago

As long as inflation expectations are low, rates stay low. Despite what butters and goldbugs say about inflation, TIPS spreads aren't crazy.

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gobills1365 1 day ago

Going to be waiting for a long time based on what Jerome said yesterday

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Reach_Beyond Platinum | QC: BTC 33, CC 29 | r/FinancialIndepend 2 days ago

The mention of Satoshi Nakamoto in this document is:

-giving him credit for creation of BTC

-Stating the identification or transfer of Satoshi BTC would be adverse for their business

-They sent a copy to Satoshi’s BTC address?

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LivingFlow 2 days ago

The valuation is wild. Let’s not debate that, but do buttcoiners understand that this is another example of legitimizing for Bitcoin? Personally, I expect Coinbase’s margins to be competed down to a level that looks much closer to a typical exchange. I wouldn’t buy it for this reason. Others will because it gives easy access to something that sounds very “crypto”. Regardless, this is a huge win for crypto markets in general.

It will also be interesting to see how much crypto they own on the balance sheet.

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VodkaHaze 2 days ago

Going public right now is a great way to dump the downslope of the bubble onto public investors. Right now all this equity is in the private owner's hands.

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bragghy Yesterday

They are not dumping the downslope of the bubble onto public investors, they are dumping the downslope of the bubble onto clueless idiots. Anyone who is so stupid to buy this shit at IPO and believes the BTC narrative deserves to lose all of his money. Stupidity has a price tag, and at the moment it's about $47k

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someshittyadvices 2 days ago

Satoshi confirmed for Smash Bros Ultimate, you heard it here first.

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HerbalHermit 2 days ago

Signal COIN

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Eric_Something 2 days ago

Get your tin foils everyone! My theory is that Satoshi Nakamoto is my ex and she created Bitcoin and thus altcoins to ruin my life by looking at shitcoin prices all day.

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Ordinary_investor 2 days ago

100:1 P/S ratio, which is at the peak of mania period in itself.

Insanity is too soft of a word to describe their valuation. Although i am sure it will balloon even further after it starts trading, because fuck fundamentals and any rationality.

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yodaeon warning, I am a moron 2 days ago

That 100 p/s is calculated on 2020 revenue, right? Which is funny, because 2021 Q1 they are projected to make 4x more than 2020 Q4 and almost 2x more than entire 2020 yr revenue. $2.5bn in a single quarter. I am not saying that we should annualize that (would be silly), but the expected revenue growth in 2021 probably justifies the current valuation. https://twitter.com/lawmaster/status/1364972835446358021?s=21 --- edit: sorry the revenue expectations I refered to most likely did not consider the explosion of institutional activity.. but CB makes significantly less on institutional volume, so the 2021 Q1 revenue will likely not be 4x more than 2020 Q4. https://twitter.com/sbf_alameda/status/1364990012287160320?s=21

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VodkaHaze 2 days ago

Quick, go public before it crashes!

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Constantine305 1 - 2 years account age. 35 - 100 comment karma. 2 days ago

Nice!

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Ghant_ Tin 2 days ago

https://explorer.bitcoin.com/btc/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

Block explorer link to address given, a lot of new deposits

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fuckofakaboom 2 days ago

We need Mystery Inc to investigate this for us...

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NiGhTShR0uD Tin 2 days ago

Jinkies.

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434_am 2 days ago

Yap. How else would you explain a 51,000% value increase. Imagine when everyone realizes that 🚀

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falthusnithilar Redditor for 1 months. 2 days ago

Well, that's one way to generate more buzz around your filing although I'm surprised the SEC allowed it.

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iwingsuitedyourmom 2 days ago

The plot thickens...

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d3tra 2 days ago

Satoshi Nakamoto is just an acronym for coinbase...

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Historical-Egg3243 2 days ago

i suspect satoshi is entirely imaginary.

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la-croixboy97 Yesterday

What goes around comes around

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Sadutote Yesterday

Some of the article's talking points are really reminiscent of Russian MoFA's allegations towards Bellingcat following their MH17 and Skripal poisoning investigations. Might be worth looking to see if the article lines up with Russia's official position.

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davoust Yesterday

Twitter is trying to limit access to this news:

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1364287394359504901

The whole thread: https://i.imgur.com/sFieZuj.jpg

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Jerkface86 1 day ago

Reuters and everything attached to it have been against Iran since oil was discovered. Absolute garbage.

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MaximusIsraelius 2 days ago

I had noticed a lot of propaganda coming out of Reuters recently against Iran. Lots of anonymous sources claiming things that make Iran look bad. I thought I was maybe being a bit too paranoid about it, but it seems I was right to be concerned.

They leverage peoples perception of Reuters being impartial to push vile propaganda. I'm glad they have been exposed and we now have proof of that. May their credibility go into the garbage along with the BBC, Guardian, CNN, NYT etc.

I assume there was blatant propaganda all along, but for some reason it seems more obvious and noticeable now. Either their propaganda is just more outrageous and easier to debunk than it was before, or its a case of once you learn the tricks they use, you become more aware of it and better at detecting it.

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Franfran2424 Espāniā 1 day ago

Me too. Reuters is generally good for British news, so acceptable in general. But their editor for anything Iran or Syria related could very well be a fucking mossad agent, for they lie and manipulate news to level that don't happen on any other topic they cover. It's just very shocking, again, because I think it is different authors, but the content is all the same anonymous sources, exaggerated claims, manipulation, deception, etc...

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GarglinMay0 England 2 days ago

Good lol fuck putin

If they do it to us they dont get to cry when we do it better

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ShamtasticDK 2 days ago

Corona-hysteri, Russerhad osv..

Vores magthavere er godt klar over at de skal skabe utryghed på falske grundlag, så de kan vise de stærke politisk, imens at den Europæiske befolkningen langsomt bliver udskiftet.

Reuters har altid været Propaganda telegram bureau nr. 1 https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-030-31178-0

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NegativeDistrict England 2 days ago

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Adzm00 2 days ago

There is a link with the source documents contained in the article. I cannot post them here and mods say reddit wont allow them to approve comment with the link so anyone interested will have to find the source material in the article.

And for those who might wish to cast doubt upon the veracity of the documents to undermine the claim here:

Thomson Reuters Foundation spokesperson Jenny Vereker implicitly confirmed the authenticity of the leaked documents

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UnmarkedDoor 2 days ago

Interesting, but completely unsurprising.

It would be deeply worrying if it wasn't for the fact that this action is engaged against Russia, who have been engaged in an incredibly effective global campaign of disruption for decades.

The Grayzone editor is also has links to RT, which rings alarm bells. Also I'm not sure they are on the right side of the Uyghur thing.

I can understand being incredibly wary of the US, but siding up to Russia and China, does not endear the publication to me.

The Grayzone is new to me, so other opinions welcomed.

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CompulsiveRestarter 2 days ago

Except that Russia was an existential threat to the Western capitalist powers. If you say this is something Indians should be vary of, you'll first have to explain how and to what magnitude India is threatening those countries/organizations to warrant such coordinated efforts.

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AngrySurgeon 2 days ago

Please explain how Russia is going to bomb the EU/ US to oblivion ? Their defence budget is even lower than Japan! It’s about influence .

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CompulsiveRestarter 2 days ago

Educate yourself please. "Existential threat" does not always mean bombs. I'm talking about influence too. The Soviet Union's existence as a second superpower served to balance American influence on the world, both in terms of military and economic might. It still does, albeit a fraction now of what it used to in the Cold War times. If there is any power close to threatening the west now, it's China. And they *are* doing all they can bring it down as OP is implying. India is simply not that much of a hindrance to warrant much intervention.

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BangingYoChick Against 2 days ago

>India is simply not that much of a hindrance to warrant much intervention. But India is a growing nation. Not to forget if India wasn't a threat to other nations we would've not seen things like 'toolkits' and all those vested propoganda by BBC and news sites. India may not be powerful as of now but it has every capacity and ability to be a regional power and West and China are aware of it

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CompulsiveRestarter 2 days ago

>things like 'toolkits' and all those vested propoganda by BBC and news sites If that's "vested propaganda" then what our news channels do must be fictional TV serials meant for entertainment.

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acidfox90 England 2 days ago

You don't say.

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Surcal :flag_AU: Australia 2 days ago

That is by far the shadiest news site I've seen in a long while

I am extremely sceptical of nearly any reporting out of there

It seems much more focused on influencing social media sites, rather than providing news and information

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-_Spitfire_- 1 KUDOS 2 days ago

We seriously need to start working with the Russians on cyber warfare.

Our English speaking population is being brainwashed at an alarming rate, and our enemies are exploiting every fault line in our society.

We also need them to remain stable and out of China’s orbit to the extent possible.

The government needs to show some strategic foresight here imo and bring the Russians on board ASAP.

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CuckedIndianAmerican 2 days ago

Up-fucking-vote! You couldn’t have said it better!

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Three_14 2 days ago

For all the attention "IT cells" get, we have been extremely poor in transitioning to information warfare. Need of the hour to invest heavily into it - for both defence and offence.

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Iwantadc2 2 days ago

BellingCat has been psyops from the start. They do a bit of pedo hunting and pictures of missing kids clothes to throw the scent. BBC been the ministry of truth since, forever, reuters I'm surprised at. The USA did murder its journalists with a helicopter gunship and they did fuck all about it though..

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ZD_17 :flag_AZ: Azerbaijan 2 days ago

> BBC been the ministry of truth since I'm not happy about declining quality of BBC, especially their Azerbaijani and Russian editions. But come on.

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DrunkEpsilon 2 days ago

> BBC been the ministry of truth since LOL.

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Yosemany 2 days ago

The headline says 'weaken Russia' but the full quote of their aims were:

to weaken the Russian State’s influence on its near neighbors

And

promoting media integrity and democratic values.

tl;dr Western governments think that Russia is using propaganda and are trying to counter it. The news organizations involved say they retained their editorial independence, although they took funding from the UK.

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Whoscapes Scottish | British | Patriotism 2 days ago

Pahah, the BBC is at a level of mistrust where it implying something (in that slimy journalist way where they never quite come out and say it) is grounds for you to think precisely the opposite.

You can't run effective intelligence campaigns using institutions if they already lack credibility. In the UK and US all of our institutions have been milked dry of their social capital. People basically don't give a solitary fuck what they have to say.

I think some of us believe that other people value what the institutions say but that's probably not even true anymore. It's just such flagrant propaganda left and right.

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JJ0161 England 2 days ago

Don't be silly. You are clearly at the younger end of the age spectrum. You are not the target audience for this stuff. Think about the age groups that place most store in the traditional media a la BBC, Reuters etc. Now reconcile that with the age groups most likely to vote in elections. What's that? The age groups most active in voting are also the age groups most likely to trust legacy media? Wow. It's almost like manufacturing a mandate from the voters is a useful thing. Who would possibly do that 🤔

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[deleted] 2 days ago

> Think about the age groups that place most store in the traditional media a la BBC, Reuters etc. 20 year old liberals.

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JJ0161 England 2 days ago

HAHAHA! Fair. There's a horseshoe in the age ranges, you're right

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[deleted] 2 days ago

I work with some people like that and the amount of uncritical adoration they have for shitty ARD/ ZDF government is propaganda is out of this world. It's like teenagers simping for Justin Bieber.

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mysticyellow Non-European 2 days ago

Growing up, I remember that for many, MSM’s word was basically gold. Now apparently only 14% of my Generation (Gen Z) believes that it’s a reliable source if information.

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JJ0161 England 2 days ago

Your generation is not one which does much voting.

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mysticyellow Non-European 2 days ago

Yeah, at least for now. It will be very interesting in the future when a generation of people who overwhelmingly don’t trust the news are the primary voting block.

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acidfox90 England 2 days ago

Thing is, what do millenals and gen-z voters trust for their information instead? The Internet? Like that's much of an improvement.

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[deleted] 2 days ago

At least you get different viewpoints and the standard for sourcing is much higher.

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mysticyellow Non-European 2 days ago

They get their information from the internet but interestingly they apparently developed very good information filtering skills to compensate. That’s why it’s basically only boomers who fall for fake news.

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acidfox90 England 2 days ago

But why do subs like this one and it's parent sub exist if not for millenals who eagerly slurp down the bullshit sold to them via NYT and HuffPo etc?

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mysticyellow Non-European 2 days ago

Huffpo and NYT are organizations that use facts and distorts them to fit their own narrative. Boomers are way more likely to fall for inforwars and newsmax news that’s just straight up false.

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generalscruff Ingerlund 2 days ago

Completely, the BBC has destroyed any credibility it once had, feels almost quaint to see them thinking they can influence anything

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mysticyellow Non-European 2 days ago

Yeah but it’s not bad when we do it

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GarglinMay0 England 2 days ago

To be fair our countries arent massive gay hating dictatorship rust belts

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autotldr 2 days ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

New leaked documents show Reuters' and the BBC's involvement in covert UK FCO programs to effect "Attitudinal change" and "Weaken the Russian state's influence," alongside intel contractors and Bellingcat.

The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents.

"These revelations show that when MPs were railing about Russia, British agents were using the BBC and Reuters to deploy precisely the same tactics that politicians and media commentators were accusing Russia of using," Chris Williamson, a former UK Labour MP who attempted to apply public scrutiny to the CDMD's covert activities and was stonewalled on national security grounds, told The Grayzone.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Media^#1 Russian^#2 Reuters^#3 FCO^#4 British^#5

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autotldr 2 days ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

New leaked documents show Reuters' and the BBC's involvement in covert UK FCO programs to effect "Attitudinal change" and "Weaken the Russian state's influence," alongside intel contractors and Bellingcat.

The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents.

"These revelations show that when MPs were railing about Russia, British agents were using the BBC and Reuters to deploy precisely the same tactics that politicians and media commentators were accusing Russia of using," Chris Williamson, a former UK Labour MP who attempted to apply public scrutiny to the CDMD's covert activities and was stonewalled on national security grounds, told The Grayzone.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Media^#1 Russian^#2 Reuters^#3 FCO^#4 British^#5

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autotldr 2 days ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

New leaked documents show Reuters' and the BBC's involvement in covert UK FCO programs to effect "Attitudinal change" and "Weaken the Russian state's influence," alongside intel contractors and Bellingcat.

The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents.

"These revelations show that when MPs were railing about Russia, British agents were using the BBC and Reuters to deploy precisely the same tactics that politicians and media commentators were accusing Russia of using," Chris Williamson, a former UK Labour MP who attempted to apply public scrutiny to the CDMD's covert activities and was stonewalled on national security grounds, told The Grayzone.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Media^#1 Russian^#2 Reuters^#3 FCO^#4 British^#5

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autotldr 2 days ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

New leaked documents show Reuters' and the BBC's involvement in covert UK FCO programs to effect "Attitudinal change" and "Weaken the Russian state's influence," alongside intel contractors and Bellingcat.

The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents.

"These revelations show that when MPs were railing about Russia, British agents were using the BBC and Reuters to deploy precisely the same tactics that politicians and media commentators were accusing Russia of using," Chris Williamson, a former UK Labour MP who attempted to apply public scrutiny to the CDMD's covert activities and was stonewalled on national security grounds, told The Grayzone.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Media^#1 Russian^#2 Reuters^#3 FCO^#4 British^#5

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autotldr BOT 2 days ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

New leaked documents show Reuters' and the BBC's involvement in covert UK FCO programs to effect "Attitudinal change" and "Weaken the Russian state's influence," alongside intel contractors and Bellingcat.

The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents.

"These revelations show that when MPs were railing about Russia, British agents were using the BBC and Reuters to deploy precisely the same tactics that politicians and media commentators were accusing Russia of using," Chris Williamson, a former UK Labour MP who attempted to apply public scrutiny to the CDMD's covert activities and was stonewalled on national security grounds, told The Grayzone.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Media^#1 Russian^#2 Reuters^#3 FCO^#4 British^#5

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autotldr 2 days ago

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 96%. (I'm a bot)

New leaked documents show Reuters' and the BBC's involvement in covert UK FCO programs to effect "Attitudinal change" and "Weaken the Russian state's influence," alongside intel contractors and Bellingcat.

The UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office have sponsored Reuters and the BBC to conduct a series of covert programs aimed at promoting regime change inside Russia and undermining its government across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, according to a series of leaked documents.

"These revelations show that when MPs were railing about Russia, British agents were using the BBC and Reuters to deploy precisely the same tactics that politicians and media commentators were accusing Russia of using," Chris Williamson, a former UK Labour MP who attempted to apply public scrutiny to the CDMD's covert activities and was stonewalled on national security grounds, told The Grayzone.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Media^#1 Russian^#2 Reuters^#3 FCO^#4 British^#5

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paleosaur Tin 2 days ago

Looks like it started happening after the 2018 sale. Shame. I considered using them to generate keys years ago. Glad I didn't.

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coinblaster-up 2 days ago

i'm shocked. so i can't trust strangers with my coins?

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Waitin4Godot 2 days ago

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coinblaster-up 2 days ago

i don't know why but i trust him yo. thank you kind stranger. godspeed.

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Waitin4Godot 2 days ago

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coinfeeds-bot 2 days ago

tldr; At least 124.85 BTC appear to have been swept from wallets generated by BitcoinPaperWallet.com. The site appears to feature a back door in its code that shares private keys for its wallets with anyone who has access to the website’s backend. Users claim to have collectively lost millions of dollars worth of bitcoin over the past two years.

This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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Waitin4Godot 2 days ago

Good bot.

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Dwaas_Bjaas Grubblecoin fan 2 days ago

Almost sounds intentionally designed...

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Waitin4Godot 2 days ago

No doubt just an "accidental oppsie" that let someone steal millions of dollars of BTC...

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Waitin4Godot 2 days ago

TLDR: BitcoinPaperWallet.com appears to feature a back door in its code that shares private keys for its wallets with anyone who has access to the website’s backend.

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shleebs 2 days ago

Always use Electrum or another trusted wallet software to generate offline addresses and wallets.

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MoneroWTF 2 days ago

I gave out lots of paper wallets as gifts over the years. I generated them all offline on a Linux live USB. The machine was additionally wiped and new distro installed, but only because I'm into that kinda shit. Hopefully their wallets are safe and the offline tool I used wasn't deterministic in nature. It was from a reputable source and only used offline so it is as safe as I could have made it. I should have bought open dimes or gave out seed words I guess.

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zluckdog 2 days ago

So far, no indication that this affects Canton Becker's older version of this site. This appears to be people creating keys on internet connected computers (online).

Now reading up on this and I do remember people warning about this paper wallet site a while back after Canton Becker supposedly sold it.

https://privacypros.io/wallets/paper-scam-warning/ this is one of the sources from the coindesk article. This is what you want to read if you care.

From what I have read so far, the site had a way of saving keys being generated back to a server.

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coinfeeds-bot 2 days ago

tldr; At least 124.85 BTC appear to have been swept from wallets generated by BitcoinPaperWallet.com. The site appears to feature a back door in its code that shares private keys for its wallets with anyone who has access to the website’s backend. Users claim to have collectively lost millions of dollars worth of bitcoin over the past two years.

This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

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fmthoker 2 days ago

Newbies be careful how you store your Sats.

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mfrw1 2 days ago

As they say .. not your key .. not your crypto .. hardware wallets FTW!

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