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eth03 2 hs ago

This seems to be the biggest one for mass adoption(Custodian Reinforcement). Shielded is already going to be default once developers can make all their mobile wallets support shielded transactions as well as the major exchanges. The next biggest hurdle has always been making this easy for non-technical users. Being able to cancel a mistaken transaction is huge.

Custodian Reinforcement

What is it? This includes a variety of potential features that can potentially protect typical end-users as well as specialized custodians. This may include recipient address verification, “vault functionality”, “I Got Burgled Button”, transaction cancellation, or transfer rate limiting functionality.
Who does this affect? All users.
Why is this a goal? A substantial weakness of cryptocurrencies is how difficult self-custody is for wide user bases. By introducing protocol features that can help users protect themselves against theft or loss and/or enable custodian providers to reduce their operational risk, we aim to make Zcash safer for a larger user base.

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aiyaaabatt 3 hs ago

Why are “shielded tx’s as default” not planned? What a joke.

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minezcash 2 hs ago

https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/announcing-zcash-blossom-and-proposed-feature-goals/31891/5

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tz1tzikas 2 hs ago

The ecosystem isn't ready yet. Sapling is just a few weeks old and software/services are just starting to fully support z-addresses. Flypool for example has just become the first pool to support private miners. Completely deactivating sprout addresses is a first step to that end though.

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MoneroCrusher 5 hs ago

How is ASIC/GPU hashrate standing in relation with rewards to voting power?

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minezcash 4 hs ago

I'm not sure hashrate "voting power" is critical in this case. Blossom would be a hard fork to the new parameters (the final PoW is still not decided) and if a faction chooses to stay with the old parameters they can run thier own chain. They just can't call it Zcash, or Zcash Classic or anything with Zcash in the name since they own the Trademark and the Exchanges honor that Trademark. Zcash will remain whatever codebase Zcash Company produces. https://z.cash/blog/future-friendly-fork/ https://z.cash/blog/consensual-currency/

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baktwobak 7 hs ago

I hope AMD Navis are ready by then :)

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cjt09 IQ is potatoe (via Quayle IQ test) 9 mins ago

There are probably lots of intersecting reasons for this. Here are some likely high-level contributors:

Society as a whole is far more prosperous with many other recreational vocations. Even when the weather sucks, you have hundreds of television channels, millions of YouTube videos, Netflix, online forums and news sites, blogs, video games, etc. It is so incredibly easy to find things to keep you occupied when you’re bored, even if you’re not very well-off. In the past, a lot more people headed down to the bar to drink after work because there wasn’t a whole lot else to do. This has also led to an increase of NEETs and “man children” who are able to comfortably and contently live on modest resources.
Obtaining a college education has become increasingly important, and admission into prestigious colleges has become increasingly competitive. Adolescents and young adults are spending more of their time focused on studying and padding out their resumé than socializing and having sex. Even after school is done, many people want to focus on their careers to pay down their student loans, and other self-actualization endeavors like traveling.
Advances in medical technology has allowed women to reliably have children even into their late 30s and early 40s, which has reduced the pressure of young women to find a significant other in their teens or early 20s. Yeah casual sex is still an option, but a lot of people like to be in committed relationships with those they have sex with. And without that pressure you’re not necessarily going to put in as much effort looking for a relationship.
Dating apps like Tinder have resulted in a market imbalance where a relatively small proportion of men are having the vast majority of the sex.
Technology is dehumanizing interactions as well as allowing for an easily accessible permanent record of all past conduct. As a result, social interactions over the internet often do not end up being pleasant or useful in growing your social skills, and experimentation is discouraged.
Feminist ideologies have created an environment that’s unconducive to traditional notions of masculinity and sometimes actively hostile to traditional male roles in society. It’s often unclear what it means to “be a man”, and many young men have extreme difficulty in navigating the new and vague rules of modern courtship. You can see examples of this in Scott’s “Untitled” piece where a different Scott expresses his fear in expressing any sexual interest towards women.

There are probably more but here are just a couple off the top of my head.

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lowlightnow 11 mins ago

In 1995, the large longitudinal study known as “Add Health” found that 66 percent of 17-year-old men and 74 percent of 17-year-old women had experienced “a special romantic relationship” in the past 18 months. In 2014, when the Pew Research Center asked 17-year-olds whether they had “ever dated, hooked up with or otherwise had a romantic relationship with another person”—seemingly a broader category than the earlier one—only 46 percent said yes.

Notice how for the 1995 data they differentiated between male and female, but then lump the two together for the 2014 data.

It must be much worse for males now.

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LexPatriae 15 mins ago

It would be interesting to see if the decrease in number of sexual partners in young people disappears when normalized according to BMI.

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wudangpai 26 mins ago

Video summary. There is also a full audio reading embedded in the article.

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BritRedditor1 Globalist elite 31 mins ago

Millenials are KILLING sex

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orange_prions Satan's Niece 41 mins ago

I'm more annoyed at the typo in the title.

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KULAKS_DESERVED_IT DespaSSCto 43 mins ago

The sex crisis, IMHO, gets far less attention than it deserves. I have some suspicions it's a driving factor behind the screaming increase in the CW the past few years. N=1, but Lord knows I wouldn't have had gone through some wingnut ideology phases if I could have gotten laid as a teen and young adult. Sex isn't just a sensation, it's one of the strongest symbols of social acceptance there is.

Personally, inability to have sex is something that bothers me almost every day. I'm a young man who does "everything right" (ie fits the physical and social criteria that are supposed to make accessing sex easy) and it's just not happening. I'm not an life incel, but by God I relate to them. As the author said, it feels far more difficult than it is "supposed to be".

...he works with a lot of men who, inspired by porn, “are still masturbating like they’re 17,” to the detriment of their sex life. “It’s taking the edge off their desire..."

This really misses the mark, IMO. Men aren't whacking off more by choice. The next line states that the number of women wanting sex more than their partners is increasing. I doubt this means what you'd intuitively think it means. I'd reckon this is actually one of those "I wish I did more of X up until it actually comes to the instant to perform X" things. Dating apps are full of lonely women who don't actually bother to meet men.

I also personally suspect that the female hypergamy concept has some legs. In other data, you can track a decline from 20% of men having 2 or < partners in 2012 (recently!) followed by a crash to <10% in 2016 almost perfectly with the release of Tinder (the first dating app that didn't lead to ostracization).

One part of the article that stood out was women lamenting not being able to meet their men IRL. I suspect this is downstream of the Bowling Alone phenomenon. Over the past 20-30 years, there has been a near-total destruction of social organzations for adults. Once you leave school, there are virtually no ways to meet new people aside from work and existing friend groups in 2018. The Boomers still have some holdover orgs but the 18-35 crowd has nothing aside from attending hobby/niche events in hopes that the people there are feeling receptive that day.

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Air_Rangoon 16 mins ago

> Lord knows I wouldn't have had gone through some wingnut ideology phases if I could have gotten laid as a teen and young adult You probably shouldn't believe that. I had dramatically more than the average amount of sex/partners before I retired from that, and I've always thought all kinds of unacceptable things. The most gettin'-laid dudes I've known all live far outside normie-town. Having your way cultivates forbidden thoughts—many of them the same thoughts that *never* having your way cultivates. It's clarity, weirdly angled. E.g., I think this article not only could but should be reduced to "Because they're fat, insufficiently dimorphic, verbally crippled, and obedient. They repel each other and they should."

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c_o_r_b_a 27 mins ago

>I have some suspicions it's a driving factor behind the screaming increase in the CW the past few years. There definitely may be some mutual causation here to an extent, but I think one of the main contributing factors to both the amplification of the CW and the decrease in young people having sex is young people spending a much higher proportion of their time communicating with people via phones and computers rather than doing things in-person.

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thetiresias 5 mins ago

Considering the strong physicality of sex, there's probably more traction in this idea than you'd even intuit.

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huyvanbin 50 mins ago

First of all, it must be said, women decide who has sex and who doesn’t, so someone asking why “we’re” having less sex should really be asking why aren’t women putting out?

The second thing is that all of the reasons, the economic issues, the health issues, the breakdown of dialogue, etc. all come down to an overall social breakdown. This is what happened in Russia decades ago and it’s happening here.

It comes down to the fact that women’s willingness to have sex is tied to their feeling secure with the consequences, ie the possibility of having to raise children. It is no coincidence that the “sexual revolution” happened in the 60s, the pinnacle of the American empire.

Unfortunately I don’t see much of a future for any of us, but obviously especially less-attractive men such as myself.

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ShockinglyNerdy Live life as Jesus did, befriend prostitutes. 1 h ago

I want to remind everyone that Kirsten Dunst did this and it's a part of why she's so amazing.

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MisfitMishap 25 mins ago

She's such a babe.

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niktereuto 2 hs ago

From a female perspective, sex has ALWAYS been risky. The big difference now is that sex is also now considered risky by men.

One single "mistake" or "accident" is enough to completely ruin your- or your partner's- life, socially and financially.

What if your partner lies to you about birth control (this is legal, by the way), and they get pregnant?

Well then you're financially fucked. If your female partner decides she doesn't want to work, then that's still socially acceptable- which means everything is on YOU. And if things don't go her way, she can leave and collect child support.

What if your partner wakes up tomorrow, retroactively revokes her consent, and tells the college that you raped them, even though everything was originally 100% consensual?

Well, then you'll be kicked out of college, smeared on the Internet and rendered permanently unemployable- even if your name eventually gets "cleared" (which never truely happens- some people will never be convinced of your innocence).

Or maybe your partner just starts saying untrue things about you on the Internet? Things that eventually make their way to your social circle, and maybe to the police...

Then of course there's the issue of time and money- the vast majority of people under 40 have neither.

Risk aversion has replaced trust in the lives of millions of millennials and Gen-Z'ers. This societal change has also changed the way people approach sex.

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CherryKirsche 33 mins ago

Maybe it's because I am not from the USA but in Germany no men I k ow is worried about getting falsely accused and if you want to avoid a baby, you probably should use a condom anyway.

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lippiecolt 1 h ago

I see parallels with our economic system. The more you liberalize it (the economy or the dating scene), the more risk the individuals are exposed to. In the past, prudish social norms served to reduce this risk at the cost of individual liberty.

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frontrowcenter Gotta bust that box, gotta gut that fish 3 hs ago

hahahhaaaa.

young people.

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kai333 Nap daddy 3 hs ago

Damn that's a long ass depressing article.

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HellhoundsOnMyTrail To be loved, be lovable. 3 hs ago

Speak for yourself.

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appealtoprobability Knees weak; arms heavy. 3 hs ago

Yeah sex is cool but have you ever tried existential dread?

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Illegal_Tender No thank you. 3 hs ago

Use one to mitigate the other Dealer's choice wrt order

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Poelarizing time is not a crocodile 3 hs ago

what on earth do the vapors have to do with the younger generation not having sex?

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saturdeity It's true I don't believe in love beyond the grave 3 hs ago

Who has time for sex when climate change is going to kill us anyway

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DoNotPmMeCupcakes Existence is 3 hs ago

Me_irl

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Poelarizing time is not a crocodile 3 hs ago

sex creates friction / friction creates heat / sex = global warming i knew it

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DoNotPmMeCupcakes Existence is 3 hs ago

Sex creates humans Humans create climate change One of the most environmentally friendly thing you can do is to have one kid less

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MisfitMishap 25 mins ago

What's less than zero?

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saturdeity It's true I don't believe in love beyond the grave 2 hs ago

When I tell this to the older generation or less aware people they're dumbfounded..to them you *should* have lots of kids.

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Poelarizing time is not a crocodile 2 hs ago

your honor i only committed those murders because i'm eco friendly

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DoNotPmMeCupcakes Existence is 2 hs ago

I mean climate change denial is genocide so an argument for ethics and morality can actually be made there

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PM_ME_CODE_CALCS 4 hs ago

I'll post the same thing I posted last time a similar article was here:

I really just feel I don't know how to treat women I'm interested in. I'm 29, a virgin, and I feel like my whole life I've just always heard conflicting messages when it comes to women. I feel like in retrospect pretty much all the women I've dated, mostly online, just expected me to fully understand everything, and then took it as a sign I wasn't interested in her when I was really just nervous and trying to do the things I had been told, like don't pressure her, just treat her like any normal person, respect her (and often it feels like showing interest in any way that isn't perfect gets labeled as disrespectful), things will just happen, etc...

I know I need to get out and meet people, but I want to be able to engage women like an actual possible partner, not a guy who's afraid/doesn't know how to flirt or be sexual, or forward. But that requires practice, and just accepting the fact that I'm the guy, it's up to me, it's my gender role to make moves (but I should never have expectations of a woman performing her gender roles), women aren't going to make the first move, and I might make women uncomfortable. I just don't feel like I have the social energy to do any of that any more, or at least all at the same time. I really believe this is a common aspect of incels/nice guys/forever alone. I could rant on for a long time, but I'll end this here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/5c2koz/z/d9tvp9r

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ElegantCyclist 3 hs ago

If you are asking feminists for help seducing women you are doing it way wrong. Start with /r/seduction and [read these](https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2017/12/02/the-best-books-for-learning-game/).

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Zeknichov 4 hs ago

I think younger people's expectations are just higher thanks to the internet. Everyone thinks they're an 9/10 and are going after 9/10s. It's so easy to have sex by just lowering your standards but most people would rather not have sex than lower their standards.

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SirScaurus 5 hs ago

I think it may be something as simple as the fact that millennials are the first generation to have grown up with access to the internet, and overall we're less socially adept in general because of it, and making connections with people is even more of struggle. It's not even surprising that other age groups would be taking a dip too - we live in an age where it's not only encouraged to hide indoors, it can actually be beneficial in many ways, in that you can cultivate any number of hobbies and interests directly through an internet connection alone.

People like to try and blame apps like Tinder, and some of that can be valid, but most of the arguments I've seen against it boil down to people not understanding how to really use it effectively. It's a social medium like any other, and even if it has rules and logic that can be difficult to learn, it's not impossible.

It all still comes down to the same thing, and even if I agree that things like rampant porn use, acceptance of sex toys, living too long with parents, economic anxiety, and difficulty in starting a proper adult life would contribute, many of those still tie back into the social immaturity aspect, and the idea that it's taking our generation longer to mature overall.

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beepbeepsputnik 5 hs ago

I must be very old.

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Johnny-Holiday 5 hs ago

Upvote incoming! You and me both. 55 years old and still banging away like an old Volkswagen Beetle. :D

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timwaagh 5 hs ago

I do support women's basic rights to choose. in ages past, girls were easily pressured into it by guys who want sex more than girls do. our parents who tell us that didn't happen in their time are deluding themselves. we aren't really talking long ago. you think those hippie temples weren't some kind of blurred-lines coercion cults? Even during that enlightened time . nowadays, with women even outearning men in the relevant age group, they can choose and unsurprisingly they choose less sex. like they always would have.

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Schaafwond 5 hs ago

You obviously don't know many women.

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nybx4life 5 hs ago

...what?

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swampswing 6 hs ago

If hookups are your thing, Grindr and Tinder offer the prospect of casual sex within the hour.

What sort of fantasy world is the author living in. I have one friend whose online dating experience resemble this. The experience of everyone else I know including myself can be summed up as crickets or weeks of work to meet up for coffee with a catfish.

Online dating sucks big-time. Offline it is super difficult to meet single women, but you have a reasonable chance of successfully landing a date when you do. Online it is the exact opposite. To be crass, offline I am maybe a 5. Online I am a 1 or a 2.

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douglandry 1 h ago

Did you read the article? It's spelled out clearly that online dating works for only the most photogenic and attractive people. She debunks the casual hookup thing.

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matthewtheninja 1 h ago

I had several successful dates from online dating over the course of a few months, but ultimately decided it just wasn't for me. I do have several friends that have gotten into serious relationships with people they met online so it does seem to work for some people.

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anuser999 2 hs ago

> What sort of fantasy world is the author living in. The author is a woman. For a woman that *is* how it works. The problem is that they all only swipe right on top-tier men and so all the men who *aren't* top tier (primarily looks-wise) get the kind of results you describe.

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SirScaurus 4 hs ago

While I think this may contribute to some of it, it seems heavily overblown, and is typically something only voiced by men. Most women's experience doesn't quite match up - it appears to be untold numbers of guys on the app who lack any social graces whatsoever and instantly turn them off. Tinder can be difficult to use, but it's a social medium like any other, and can be learned. As an average looking guy who gets plenty of dates, it's really an art that you have to put time into - it's no longer some kind of easy-setup app that will get you laid instantly. You have to be willing to cultivate your profile very carefully, present yourself very carefully, and approach your match conversations very carefully. That sounds like work, and it is, but I would argue that trying to find someone shouldn't be a 'lowest common denominator' game when it comes to gaming how little effort you can put into a certain avenue and find success. P.S. As someone very not socially adept, it took me two years to fully comprehend this, work towards understanding the app, and then build up experience and get careful insight from others to really understand how to use it. And now it works great for me.

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ElegantCyclist 4 hs ago

It is striking to me that one major explanation only occurs once: > Emma is, by her own description, fat. She is not ashamed of her appearance, and purposefully includes several full-body photos in her dating profiles [About three-quarters of Americans are overweight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States). We should all be [working to quit sugar](https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2017/06/15/zero-sugar-will-change-your-body-and-life/) and up our game more generally. That said, this is gross: > Nevertheless, men persist in swiping right on her profile only to taunt her—when I spoke with her, one guy had recently ended a text exchange by sending her a gif of an overweight woman on a treadmill. There is no reason to do such things; it's not like [fat people don't already know](https://theredquest.wordpress.com/2018/07/07/fat-acceptance-will-never-happen-in-the-places-it-matters/). Many women have been brainwashed by academic lunatic feminists [that sex is all about danger](https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/laura-kipnis-unwanted-advances-excerpt.html), while many guys have imbibed a kind of foolish timidity that kills eros. We all need to do better.

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wavefield 10 mins ago

The pattern happens also in Japan and Europe, which has much less problems with people being overweight

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Schaafwond 5 hs ago

Odd, I hear this a lot and it doesn't resemble my experience at all. I find it pretty easy to get dates through dating apps, and I'm not particularly good looking.

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swampswing 4 hs ago

As I said, I have one friend who had a ton of luck. He raved to the rest of us about how awesome online dating was. The experience for myself and the rest of my buddies was the exact opposite. I also had a cousin who experienced some success, but in his case he was getting crickets as well until he posted some photos of himself shirtless at the beach (he was training for a physique competition at the time and was in awesome shape).

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Schaafwond 4 hs ago

I don't think it's luck, since it's too consistent: like you said, some people have succes while others have none. I wouldn't say it's all looks, since I have plenty of good looking friends who said it did nothing for them, and some average looking people for whom it seems to work just fine. So what could explain this big gap in succcess with dating apps?

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SirScaurus 3 hs ago

I think some people may just be innately better at grasping how the app presents them and social aspects of it, and move towards using it to present themselves in a more effective way than certain others. It's a social medium like any other, but with different rules and logic than any others.

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SirScaurus 4 hs ago

I think the app can be deceptive in how easy it makes getting dates seem. In reality, it can take a lot of time and effort to create a profile that presents you in a very favorable way, and gets the attention of the type of women you want it to. Sometimes people can run with it right off the bat, though.

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GreatGarbagePatch 5 hs ago

She says it offers the prospect and then explicitly states that these apps often do not deliver on these prospects. >He liked her, and was happy to be on hiatus from Tinder. “It’s like howling into the void for most guys,” he explained, “and like searching for a diamond in a sea of dick pics for most girls.”

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skiptomylou1231 1 h ago

I feel like 90% of the comments in here didn't read the article carefully like the one you responded to. The other comments in this thread just propose one specific reason as the cause for lack of sex even though every single thing posted here (overabundance of choice in online dating, commodification through dating apps, lack of experience in in-person interaction, etc.) was listed as a symptom in the article already. How much each person thinks each individual cause (Tinder, #metoo, lack of sex education, porn, etc.) plays a role in this phenomenon is up for argument but the article's thesis is essentially all of these factors to some degree contribute and it's not just one reason. There have been other very similar articles published but I think this is a pretty comprehensive look at the issue that isn't as 'out of touch' as some other articles published by older journalists.

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nybx4life 6 hs ago

I could be off here, but I have heard that online dating tends to work better for gay people due to less options. Although I do agree; most profiles I've seen on Tinder say they're not looking for casual sex, which is ironic based on the reputation it's received when it started. I also think the scenario varies per gender; for guys it's tough to find a woman at all. For gals it's tough to engage and find a be sure the guy they talk to isn't solely interested in getting in their pants.

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baphometsayshi 5 hs ago

People that share an interest tend to achieve that interest a lot more frequently than those that don't. If the majority of interest in gay online dating is for hookup sex and the majority of interest in straight online dating is serious relationships then it's easy to draw the conclusion that gay people will be having sex more frequently than their straight counterparts. Though all I can offer in evidence of this is being a fly on the wall in a bunch of discords and watching gay people hook up non-stop while straights just sort of twiddle their fingers and sigh.

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sardaratATL 6 hs ago

The 80/20 rule: 80% of the woman seek 20% of the men in the dating apps. This means lots of men don't have sex.

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FauxShizzle 6 hs ago

This seems absurd, wrong, and I believe says more about your own views of the world than it says anything objectively at all.

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sardaratATL 5 hs ago

[https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a](https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a)

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FauxShizzle 5 hs ago

That is not a peer-reviewed article and only can be used anecdotally. I can write a medium article saying anything I want it to. It doesn't mean that it can be statistically validated. Edit: The article itself explains: >At this point I would be remiss to not mention a few caveats about these data. First, the sample size is small (**only 27 females were interviewed**). Second, **all data is self reported**. The females who responded to my questions could have lied about the percentage of guys they “like” in order to impress me (fake super hot Tinder me) or make themselves seem more selective.

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anuser999 2 hs ago

> That is not a peer-reviewed article Well until the social """sciences""" drop their taboo on any research that could possibly invalidate feminist orthodoxy that's the best you're going to get. It sucks, but that's the natural end result of an ideology gaining total control over what should be science.

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sardaratATL 5 hs ago

Did you read this article? A quote from it: > Unless you are exceptionally good-looking, the thing online dating may be best at is sucking up large amounts of time.

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FauxShizzle 5 hs ago

Yeah I read the article. Again, it's not peer reviewed and its results are not necessarily valid. **Just saying something doesn't make it true.** The guy who wrote it says in the article that it has a sample size of 27 females and all the data are self reported. It's not a statistically valid study. I'm sorry you can't get laid. Get a hobby, or learn a valuable skill, or try to be funny. Not everyone is Adonis, but that doesn't mean that this study saying 80% of women are fucking only 20% of men has any merit.

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formless2018 4 hs ago

"just be funny or learn a skill" he should also just pick himself up by the bootstraps and quit being poor.

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AuthenticCounterfeit 2 hs ago

Honestly, if you're ugly, in bad shape, do not have a personality and do not have any meaningful skills, you shouldn't be dating. You need one of those things.  Would you date an ugly person who was uninteresting, wasn't good at anything and didn't seem inclined to make an effort?

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FauxShizzle 3 hs ago

Choosing not to learn a skill is not the same as being poor. Everyone can learn a skill. You are being a defeatist if you don't try and then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Interested people are interesting people. Don't prioritize finding a partner. Just live your life and stop complaining about your love life on the internet. That's my opinion, not something scientific. I figured since he's submitting an opinion piece and not something scientific, I'd offer my own. What's the difference?

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skiptomylou1231 1 h ago

The person you're replying to isn't saying that's how dating works all the time. It's just how it is on Tinder. Learning a skill doesn't really matter because there's only so much wit/intrigue you can put into 140 characters that most people don't bother looking at if they're not attracted to your picture to begin with. The original Atlantic article even posts swiping rates on Tinder from 2014, which basically shows OP was pretty close to right anyways although it's pretty top heavy for women too. Also, not everybody who disagrees with you is whining or projecting their own frustrations. It's just their opinion and nobody else has made any personal judgments on you in this thread.

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trumpismysaviour 6 hs ago

The main reason is you have a group called incels who worship trump and are left wing who will never have sex and then you get these left don't people drowning in sex but right wing forever virgins will drag down the average.

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Prysorra2 4 hs ago

[–]trumpismysaviour [-27] -13 points 2 hours ago [The main reason is you have a group called incels who worship trump and are left wing who will never have sex and then you get these left don't people drowning in sex but right wing forever virgins will drag down the average.](https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueReddit/comments/9wp9xc/young_people_are_having_less_sex/e9m8enq/) I swear whoever pays this guy and his band of bots is *not* getting their money's worth.

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stevesea 5 hs ago

incels are incredibly rare, and it's not like they have negative sex so they can't drag down the average that far. They are probably far outnumbered by virgins who don't call themselves incels in any case.  I'm tired of your obsession with trump. this was an issue before trump, has little to nothing to do with him, and it just makes you look like a dim ideologue when you shoehorn him into every post you make on this website. if this place had halfway decent moderation you'd have been banned a long time ago, and i'm saying this as someone who agrees with a sizable fraction of the articles you post. Do everyone -- especially liberals/progressives -- a favor and think before you post. please.

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Bill_Nihilist 7 hs ago

submission statement: This article highlights a few of the many possible contributing factors to the decline in sexual behavior among industrialized nations. This section in particular got me:

Over the course of many conversations with sex researchers, psychologists, economists, sociologists, therapists, sex educators, and young adults, I heard many other theories about what I have come to think of as the sex recession. I was told it might be a consequence of the hookup culture, of crushing economic pressures, of surging anxiety rates, of psychological frailty, of widespread antidepressant use, of streaming television, of environmental estrogens leaked by plastics, of dropping testosterone levels, of digital porn, of the vibrator’s golden age, of dating apps, of option paralysis, of helicopter parents, of careerism, of smartphones, of the news cycle, of information overload generally, of sleep deprivation, of obesity. Name a modern blight, and someone, somewhere, is ready to blame it for messing with the modern libido.

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Crowmakeswing 3 hs ago

Well that's a nice list. Lots to contemplate, thanks so much. However if I were an alien agent plunked down here periodically to observe and report back the one thing I would have been fired for missing is FEMINISM! Why is it no where near your list?

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leesec - @leesec 2 hs ago

Honestly I think it's the top 20-10~ percent are having a lot more sex and the rest is having less. I believe this is because people's potential mating/social circles have grown to encompass the whole world via the internet.

Where before a very attractive person might only have access to the people in their friend group/workspace/etc and wind up settling/sleeping with/marrying one of them, now they can expand beyond that and literally shoot to the top of the gene/status pool, e.g. a very attractive girl might date a professional basketball player instead of the cute guy in the office.

This can happen on a smaller scale as well because of things like Tinder. Why date the amiable and friendly but 6/10 coworker when there is a rich, successful, charming 9/10 down the block.

Even if people are not doing this they might not be partnering up as much because of the possibility of it happening. FOMO is constant in relationship these days, IMO.

jammygit - @jammygit 2 hs ago

I used to do a lot of online dating and the worst dates were with recent grads.

Usually, they would be either about to graduate, or else they had graduated a couple of years earlier and had just worked steadily since then.

They would have zero hobbies. They would listen to top 40s music but couldn't name a band, sometimes watch a movie (but didn't care much what movie), didn't have opinions on things, had almost no stories to tell. They didn't have ideas about what to do on a date. They were awkward. Our date would almost always be the first they had been on in a long time.

It was like they postponed becoming real people in order to become excellent students and professionals. I get that - their programs are HARD. What a high cost though.

choot - @choot 3 hs ago

I am a psychologist.

This is based on my high tech dating experience of dating many people.

1. Perfect looking people have insecurity because they've six pack abs but their penis size isn't as big as the pornstar they saw last night.

These people don't wanna show anyone their nude body.

It's all time high because of Instagram models.

Even the people who look 9/10 feel insecure because of Instagram.

A person looking 9/10 when coupled with makeup, professionals photography, Photoshop, look out of the world.

2. STD/STI awareness is all time high. People don't wanna live with HIV/AIDS

Remember the news stories where guys would secretly remove the condom and go bareback without their partners knowing? Yes, people are afraid now.

3. Cameras everywhere. No one wants to be recorded while having sex and next day leaked to web just because they decided to breakup and someome got mad.

Taking it upto to social network and threatening with your follower count is a real thing!

Felt even a little bit of injustice? No worries, let the world decide who is wrong and post all photos, videos, communications and the smear campaign starts.

4. They are preparing for professional life and yes it's getting tougher. People have little money left after all neccessaties in life and no time.

5. Romantic interests don't stay around for long if they don't get sex from you by 2nd or 3rd date. So lots of people who wait for some special connection before they jump in bed, don't really find anyone.

Back in time people spent months to years courting a romantic interest before getting in bed. But now, people show interest for few days and if they don't get what they want, they are off to Tinder to look for someone who is more willing to have sex fast.

6. You need to be genetically gifted.

Used studio quality photos on Tinder with makeup on and Photoshop. Got bunch of folks interested? They ask you to snap your photo or they'll block you. You quickly comply but guess what, you aren't genetically gifted so you aren't handsome/pretty as they thought. You got ghosted.

After a while you get pissed off by being treated like this and stop looking for anything related to love/sex.

Who wants to go through this humiliation again?

No one sees anything outside your face and body. People are comparing numbers against numbers. Personality will get a chance after you pass their aesthetic and number filters.

7. Sleeping with executives/managers is more rewarding so why sleep with same kind of people?

There is lots of sexual harrasment at companies. People either shutoff their sexual desires or sleep with executives to get ahead in their professional life. Now, this executives isn't in same age group so less young people get to have sex as a result.

8. Internet expanded the dating pool. Now, the people who want to have lots of sex can easily find another person with similar libido. This effectively decreases the number of people who will get to have sex with this person possessing high libido

9. People aren't perfect. But now, if you make a mistake in real life, someone who ask about your mistake on reddit and someone's else will label you as asshole or something then you are ghosted.

Edit: Not sure why my personal experience is being downvoted.

babaganoosh89 - @babaganoosh89 3 hs ago

Because they’re financially stressed and can’t afford kids.

mywittyname - @mywittyname 1 h ago

An aspect of this article that I find interesting is that parents encourage their children not to date while in school because it's a distraction. I personally find this idea to be misguided because, at least for myself, having a person there to support you during the emotional rollercoaster of college is critical for success. A team can do more than an individual.

lostgame - @lostgame 2 hs ago

Huh. I’ve seen this posted several times here, now.

Here in Toronto, that most assuredly does not seem to be the case.

Perhaps it’s because I’m a lesbian and on the fringes of the fetish community, but I certainly don’t see a lack of sexual activity in the city here. Tinder is super popular as wel.

hiven - @hiven 2 hs ago

Speak for yourself!

expertentipp - @expertentipp 2 hs ago

Because sex doesn’t exist. It’s a thing from movies and magazines.

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SnowBastardThrowaway 1 h ago

Peter McCormack: And then when we hit $20,000 how did you feel?

Adam Back: Well, that was like a pretty good price, and personally I’m not expecting that Bitcoin has enough utility and potential value that we’ll see that and more in the future.

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smaugTheMagicDragon 1 h ago

> Adam Back: Well, that was like a pretty good price, and personally I’m not expecting that Bitcoin has enough utility and potential value that we’ll see that and more in the future. Wait what?

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SnowBastardThrowaway 41 mins ago

Yeah. I think peter intentionally misquoted him.

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oogally 4 hs ago

Peter, I've really been enjoying your show - you've had some really high caliber guests on. Keep it up.

I just listened to #44 yesterday with Steve Keen, and while I appreciated his unique perspective, it absolutely drove me nuts that there was little push-back on his arguments against bitcoin in the last 10-15 minutes of the episode. Partially, I think it was just his surface-level understanding of the protocol, but it would be great to hear some debate on the finer points, such as Keynesian vs Austrian economics, energy consumption dedicated to hard money, the value of hard money in today's world, etc. I could just hear Saifedean in my head rebutting each of his objections.

Have you considered hosting any debates on subjects like this? I think a contrarian perspective is healthy, but I think it would be helpful to tease apart the arguments a little more. Particularly where energy consumption is concerned, I think debate would be a healthy thing. There are some good arguments on both sides that would be worthwhile to consider.

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marsPlastic 3 hs ago

I actually enjoyed that Peter didn't push back too much, it was much less hostile and I really wanted to hear from a seasoned economist that did not believe in bitcoin. Even though it was obvious where Steve did not understand bitcoin, he has spent a lifetime as an economist so it was worth having to hear his thoughts on the mater. Peter, this was the interview that made me appreciate and subscribe to your podcasts.

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oogally 3 hs ago

Yes, I can understand why, as a host, he didn't want to get into it - but it was frustrating to just leave those surface level objections as is, without getting down to the meat of the arguments. I think there could have been some good discussion on those points had time and inclination permitted.

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marsPlastic 2 hs ago

I think Peter would make the best moderator for a debate.

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antilex 5 hs ago

listening to Adam and Gavin is way better than going crazy trying to find out who the hell satoshi is.. thanks for the post.

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WalterRyan 8 hs ago

Timestamps for the " Mentioned in the interview " topics would be nice.

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mccormack555 5 hs ago

Thanks, I used to do those but they take a long time - I might bring them back, thank you for the suggestion.

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WalterRyan 5 hs ago

I can imagine that doing them afterwards take time. Maybe it's possible to make some quick notes during the interview? No idea how feasible that is, never done interviews or podcasts.

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ABitcoinAllBot 11 hs ago

Here is the link to the original comment thread. Or you can comment here to start a discussion. Author: mccormack555

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