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millerb7 Moderator r/cryptocurrency & Discord 6 hs ago

Removed. 0 proof. Clickbait title.

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c0wt00n Crypto God | QC: NANO 456, CC 69 7 hs ago

Naw, this is just why you use fake info for your KYC

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kevinatx 7 hs ago

KYC is a fucking joke to begin with. In an effort to combat criminal activity such as money laundering KYC was proposed and therefore it is to be assumed that the burden of proving innocence is once again passed on to the every day Joe, rather than a government having to prove guilt first. It's about as useful as the requirement to remove your shoes at the airport. Smoke and mirror tactic at best that causes more harm as an aggregate than good for a few bad actors. As the adage goes, the most anonymous currency used by criminals is the US 20 dollar bill. Crypto needs to find a way to go back to its roots.

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RossMidd Crypto Nerd 7 hs ago

What we need is zero knowledge proof KYC where data is never stored centrally at any point in the process. IMO this is an incredible use case not just for crypto, but for the real world as well.

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cipig 1 - 2 year account age. 35 - 100 comment karma. 9 hs ago

Another proof that collecting unnecessary user data is a very bad idea...

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kevinatx 7 hs ago

Funny how provisions such as GDPR were implemented to solve exactly this, but only apply to data collected via the private sector. But when it comes to things like KYC all bets are off.

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cipig 1 - 2 year account age. 35 - 100 comment karma. 2 hs ago

I think time has come to open an exchange in a jurisdiction that does not require this KYC stuff and with a bank account that does not share information with anybody. Found this interesting list of such jurisdictions: [https://thebanks.eu/articles/countries-which-will-not-automatically-exchange-account-information](https://thebanks.eu/articles/countries-which-will-not-automatically-exchange-account-information) I don't understand why the existing exchanges didn't already move to such a country.

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RoqueNE Survivor 9 hs ago

There seems to be some doubt about that. I would not believe that until there is an official confirmation.

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Yankeeruinx Crypto God | QC: CC 191 9 hs ago

For sure but they didn’t really deny it either and in Binance’s case they stated they have “theories in regards to how this information may have been obtained,” but would clarify further on the issue. Either way DEX’s with no KYC will always be a safer option vs a centralised exchange that you have to trust with your funds and personal data

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RoqueNE Survivor 8 hs ago

Agree with the point about DEX. I see a big (if not the only) future in them. If I look at the latest developments in this direction, the possibilities to trade decentrally and yet quickly and effectively become better and better. And yea, trusting a centralized entity with your personal data, and maybe even worse, your private keys makes just no sense in this ecosystem. Absolute decentralization and trustless systems are the way to go.

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zboy1992 Redditor for 2 months. 9 hs ago

Shit...

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Yankeeruinx Crypto God | QC: CC 191 10 hs ago

Basically selling your photo’s you used for the KYC process on exchanges with your details on it. This is why we need adoption of DEX’s that sidestep the KYC process.

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WouterDS Low Crypto Activity 9 hs ago

Or arguably regulators.

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Yankeeruinx Crypto God | QC: CC 191 9 hs ago

Well regulators are the issue and the reason why they have to implement KYC for compliance reasons. Upcoming DEX’s like Stakenets will not have this issue as it will be run entirely from their MN network with no centralised component so once it goes live nobody can shut it down, even Stakenet themselves won’t be able too once it’s running.

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fabzo100 Crypto God | QC: CC 159, IOTA 15 8 hs ago

you are an idi0t. the problem here is not whether it's DEX or CEX. the problem here is fiat on and off-ramp. 99% of people in crypto will always need fiat on-ramp and fiat off-ramp and governments/regulators can always shut down your access to those two things if you refuse to do KYC. They don't need to shut down the DEX. they just need to freeze the bank accounts of people involved in providing fiat on-ramp and fiat off-ramp in that said DEX

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Yankeeruinx Crypto God | QC: CC 191 8 hs ago

Well for one you would only send what you need to cash out immediately to a fiat exchange so wouldn’t be holding large amounts on it like people do now but I can see a situation where retailers begin to accept stable coins like USDC to sidestep the volatility issue with crypto. Circle said in their AMA that this was a direction they were taking so if retailers begin to accept USDC as USD then many wouldn’t need to ever cash out again as they could just pay for everything with USDC or whatever stable coin

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orangefly 6 hs ago

That works for what we currently own but how do we buy more with our fiat?

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oskarw85 4 days ago

HFYG(Happy For Your Gain)

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TwoDimesMove 4 days ago

I love the meme, well if the coin gets taken over people will just switch! You can see when it happens so after it happens when the value is destroyed you can just buy another unsecured piece of shit.

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sirtaptap 4 days ago

I think you mean potential free market movement by Non-Aggression Principle adhering free thinkers.

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thehoesmaketheman 4 days ago

Lmfao. I totally forgot about non aggression principle. I don't even remember what it is all I remember is that it's hilarious

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JeanneDOrc 3 days ago

NAP: John McAffee can rape kids on sex-tourist holiday and murder two people in cold blood, but you’d better not expect me, a contract supremacist, to ever adhere to the contract I signed the moment it becomes less profitable for my end of the bargain. Halp, I’ve been violated!

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SpoonyDinosaur XRP Hodler 4 days ago

Lol this sums it up pretty much completely:

Will it work?

Probably not. Particularly given that Valor is still fundraising and working on its code, which means Ripple still has several months to develop the crypto equivalent of a poison pill. Plus, even if Ripple can't apply defenses, there are still tons of challenges — not the least of which is convincing enough large XRP holders to make the switch.

Not even done fundraising or with the code itself, which could take a huge amount of time... This doesn't factor in that they have no marketing, no working products and Ripple is so far ahead it's laughable.

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dr-pogo XRP Supporter 4 days ago

It took years to get banks, financial institutions and the rest of the community on board with Ripple and XRP. They would never suddenly switch to a random third party, especially when tagged ‘hostile’.

Not worried.

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froggleblocks 4 days ago

Ridiculous.

Whoever wrote this doesn't understand how shorting works, not understand that the way to drive down prices is to flood the market with supply, and if they want to buy up XRP they have to increase prices, not drop them.

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notmyrralname Crypto God | QC: CC 317, XRP 37 4 days ago

So this guy wants to try to raise “tens of millions of dollars” to short xrp in hopes they can fork xrp? And the article even concludes with “it probably wont work”!!??

What kind of worthless crap is this? Why even bother posting shit that is obviously fud and a thinly veiled attempt to market this guys ponzi.

Shame on you op.

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ThudnerChunky Yesterday

Great article. L2 tech is is key, but this shit is going to take a lot longer than people expect. Science is slow. Much slower than the general public or researchers still in their 20's believe.

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pseudonympholepsy Yesterday

I simply can't help but think this entire community (blockchain tech / cryptocurrency, not just Ethereum) tends to get wrapped up in hype / wishful thinking... it's way to easy to get deluded sometimes.... especially when you have a lot of emotions involved and want dApps that can literally cure cancer etc.

We're a space of people that want societal change... global revolution even. Then there's the Sunk Cost Fallacy.... having invested in Ethereum gets you in a frame of mind where it becomes really easy to dismiss any other projects that make similar attempts (EOS, Tron, etc) whilst going completely blind regarding the faults of the Ethereum development... this goes for just about any crypto project out there. Replace Ethereum with Bitcoin and the sentence is still true.

We need critical thinking and objective facts. To me it seems like the Ethereum is a minimum of 2 years away from even scaling to the degree that they originally planned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwpRKoELZM Not my words... but the words of an actual dev. This is serious. They are still struggling to scale to a degree that other blockchains have already achieved and are now moving further away from. 2 years in crypto space is a lifetime. In just half a year, EOS managed to pulverize all other networks in terms of transactions per second and network activity. How much can they achieve in 4 x that time frame? It seems like Ethereum needs to either step up their game or completely pivot their project for some niche.

Please elaborate if you think I'm wrong. Don't just reply "FU".

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tsunamiboy6776 Yesterday

Do you know that EOS is a centralized system? You compare apples with oranges. There is no fully decentralised system out there that is scalable today. EOS was designed from the get go to generate this kind of headline ("is fast!") at the expenses of everything else.

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pseudonympholepsy Yesterday

"At the expenses of everything else" seems a little harsh... I am in no way being a fan-boy regarding this, but it seems like EOS had the great opportunity of learning from the faults of other projects, primarily Ethereum. And there are obvious pitfalls to the approach of Ethereum and many other chains. Being a software developer myself, the primary concern that comes to mind is the difficulty at which serious bugs can be effectually patched at pace with the uncovering of the fault. It is extraordinarily tedious to upgrade the software and thus fix the bugs that show up in Bitcoin and Ethereum and many other chains, at least if the bugs lie deep enough, compared to what EOS have apparently accomplished. I know not whether or not we can attribute some of the ease to their different consensus algorithm, but I know that from the very get-go software upgrades where taken closely into consideration. The upgrades that are coming to Ethereum (still just empty promises!) will require forking the blockchain and we've all seen what chaos erupts in the case of Bitcoin and its many forks. We've seen the confusion that splits otherwise healthy communities and actually damages the project. With EOS, they don't have to fork the chain... I cannot go in depth with why this is, but all I know is that this is potentially huge if you look at this from an evolutionary perspective. Consider that pace at which they can roll out updates... We could compare different blockchain projects and see them as different species fighting in an evolutionary arms race. Now, if EOS is the sole project out that that is capable of rapid generational shifts in structural design... that means they can grow at an exponential pace, whilst all other projects are stuck in a linear modus operandi. What do you think?

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tsunamiboy6776 Yesterday

If you take out decentralization from a decentralized system you are left with something that is basically beside the point. It won't matter how fast. Just it won't. \>> I cannot go in depth with why this is, but all I know is that this is potentially huge if you look at this from an evolutionary perspective. From an evolutionary perspective what will make the difference will be having the best technology. I doubt that is what EOS care about... on its main goal EOS has already delivered (grabbing cash). Serious project like Dfinity that do not have to fork anything yet (still developed by a self-sovereign team) are not coming up any quicker than Ethereum. The reason why takes time is that the real new technology and science is invented as we go and that takes decades. Just look at the previous IT/CS revolutions. The first microprocessor was designed in 1971. Were they done by 1974 (3yrs later, as old as Ethereum today)? 

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pseudonympholepsy 10 hs ago

I won't argue with you on your first paragraph, since I absolutely agree. [Decentralization compared](https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*JZVO5EAjw3Gw-Z2OQqs0UA.png). I guess whether or not EOS is actually less decentralized is still up for debate. Sure, there are more nodes in Eth and Bitcoin... That is, I don't know the exact numbers, so if you do, please update me. In EOS they have block producers that are not only timeshifted, but also elected and in constant competition with other BPs as to who can provide the most stable network, dApps, resources, community involvement etc.  The people running Bitcoin and Ethereum are merely in control because they have a ton of resources, but do they have a lot of community trust? What happens when one PoW farm becomes corrupt? You cannot easily vote out the assailant. On EOS, you can. So there's that as a major point on the overall blockchain security.  If the main goal of the original EOS team -> [Block.One](https://Block.One) was to simply money grab... why have they already given away 1 Billion $ of the 4 they "moneygrabbed" solely for furthering dApp development on the network? That doesn't sound like a moneygrab... that sounds like good intentions.  I don't think transistor technology etc. is a perfect analogy to go by for this comparison.

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tsunamiboy6776 9 hs ago

Ethereum and Bitcoin have a approximately 10,000 (ten thousand) nodes running at any given moment. In EOS there are 21 (twenty one) block producers (you can count the slices in the first pie yourself). The chart pie you posted is not particularly relevant IMHO at the very least (others might say is outright misleading) as it compares block producers (21) and mining pools that indeed aggregate thousands of nodes. So again, it is comparing apples with oranges. If a pool misbehaves, miners can point their miners elsewhere. In its short life, EOS has already had a couple of instances of censorship and collusion ([https://news.bitcoin.com/report-censorship-prone-eos-needs-to-re-architect-its-infrastructure/](https://news.bitcoin.com/report-censorship-prone-eos-needs-to-re-architect-its-infrastructure/)) ... these would have been absolutely impossible in a decentralized system. For the record... i am not a big fan of PoW and I look forward to switching to PoS ASAP... so I grant your comment on PoW farms in principle... but dPoS is not a good enough solution. Regarding you query on whether or not miners have community's trust... I do not mean to sound arrogant but seems to me you should refresh a bit the material from decentralization 101: **the whole point of a blockchain system is that you do not need to have trust in them:** the system works equally well with 100% scumbags or 100% white hats. This is the real genius of Satoshi. As per the transistor revolution... the relevance is that no technological revolution has ever been delivered over a few years but rather over decades. Ethereum is no exception: it is not "running late" because it is still clunky 3 years after its birth. Query... if all these brilliant open source Ethereum killers out there have have so many cutting-edge technological solutions that solve all these problems... why we cannot just take their solutions and recycle them for Ethereum??? As a rule of thumb, I am suspicious of any project portraying itself as the final solution to all the problems plaguing other projects (EOS, Tron, ...) and I have the uttermost respect for those teams working hard heads down over delivering technology. IMHO, all these "Ethereum's killers" spend a bit too much time talking about Ethereum and bragging about themselves. Usually the people that end up changing the world are rather humble, concrete and sober. They focus on themselves, not the competition.  

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crap_punchline Yesterday

All the scalability in the world doesn't help the fact that the entire platform is a wild west shit show of dumb contracts being executed by people who can't verify the security of the underlying code, and this is somehow the future of finance because errrr you all want to get rich without doing any work.

Every day will be another DAO in the world of Ethereum. It takes all of the headaches of Bitcoin and slaps an entire layer of infosec vulnerabilities over the top of it until it becomes a sort of meta Rube Goldberg machine that hosts thousands of other Rube Goldberg machines, each of which has an attack surface comparable to NU-110

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elizabethgiovanni Yesterday

You’re also forgetting that there will always be people vetting the code of contracts that grow in popularity. If a vulnerability is spotted, the contract can be redeployed by the entity that launched it or by someone else.

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crap_punchline Yesterday

>there will always be people vetting the code  Ahh, as the saying goes "assumption is the mother of all fuck ups", see the DAO, and all derivatives thereon. You can't count on a popular contact being safe, because we already know that isn't true. So when is it really safe? When do you **know** it's safe? When you inspect the code yourself. Well, I ask you, who the fuck is going to be bothered to do that?

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illespal Yesterday

So why bring up shitshows that are badly programmed. There are already ones that are well written and sec audited. Any details on the vulnerabilities? Or details about which public system is fully free of vulnerabilities?

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crap_punchline Yesterday

>Or details about which public system is fully free of vulnerabilities? Yes, here's one. It's called an Exchange Traded Fund. If you can tell me of some high profile instances where ETFs have been hacked and the funds irretrievably lost, that would be great. Now let's look at the Ethereum equivalent: a DAO. Well, the first instance of that was an unmitigated shitshow. So, I ask you, at what point do I **know** a dumb contact is secure? The truth is you have to perfectly verify the code yourself. That is the only way. Anything else is simply *hoping* that somebody else has done this for you, and there's no fucking insurance for you if it all goes to shit. What a nightmare.

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hodlerd 14 hs ago

Two words: formal verification. It’s already happening (MCD, Uniswap, etc)

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illespal Yesterday

Good points, but you're comparing a decades old system with something just brewing with high potential and head room for maturing. I think eventually this will become standardized and even probably automatised. Certainly not easy to get there, but your valid points surely can be mitigated to a higher extent than currently seems.

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DASK Yesterday

As someone who has been both an Eth investor and skeptic, this is a vastly helpful article in sorting out the current landscape of development and prospects. It also increases my confidence in the long term prospects of both UXTO and state driven models for crypto.

It is long and involved, but well worth a read for anyone that has or is thinking about any significant investment in crypto.

A great effort and thanks to the author.

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SMcKie Yesterday

We thank you!

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eIImcxc Yesterday

TDCR please? (too dumb couldn't read)

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illespal Yesterday

It's a well written article about second layer solutions for different economic cases, and how they already work and help, in parallel to what serenity on chain scaling will bring. A tremendous effort is being done, and in use. There's a lot of myth around how ethereum can't scale. This shows well from a technical and economic perspective that it scales already with a list of possibilities.

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eIImcxc Yesterday

Thanks.

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Gogols_Nose Yesterday

Hype ≠ reality, and the latter is on ethereum's side.

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turboblockchain 1 day ago

I get that every morning

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savingfluffybunnies 1 day ago

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Such excite! Huge update, great job guys! In the process of updating now.

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bonestabone Arise Chickun 2 days ago

Cool, gonna check it out. Anyone know if you can do crypto to crypto exchanges or even purchase for fiat?

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throwawayo12345 New User 1 day ago

You can most definitely do crypto-to-crypto. Theoretically you can do crypto to fiat and back but not in an intuitive, straightforward way.

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iblethebible 2 days ago

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/acz3go/why_dont_you_accept_monero/?ref=share&ref_source=link

I spoke about this on the ob sub a week or so ago

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iblethebible 2 days ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/acz3go/why_dont_you_accept_monero/#

Posted this on the ob sub reddit not long ago got some funny replies from dash shills lol

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throwawayo12345 Yesterday

If you think that is funny...see this Dash shill from just yesterday. https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/ah3lh0/openbazaar_23_is_released_with_new_multiwallet/eed6ybb/?context=8&depth=9

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iblethebible Yesterday

I don't understand dash tbh which doesn't necessarily make it bad it just means I won't invest in it. The supporters and shills just embarrass the entire project though hahaha

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oufouf08304 2 days ago

https://twitter.com/brianchoffman/status/1086050622640738306

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oufouf08304 2 days ago

Why don't we create a xmr.to plugin allowing users to pay with XMR in OpenBazaar? This should be easy to do.

OpenBazaar already had a ShapeShift plugin in the past, which allowed to pay in any currency.

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WellShipmate 2 days ago

I haven't looked at open bazaar in about a year. I really liked the concept but had to wade through hundreds of listings for pointless items and found very little of value on there. Is there good products on there now? I am hoping that this will one day be very popular.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

This is being released to a mainstream audience - https://gethaven.app/ It uses the OB backend for listings. So hopefully, really cool items begin to get listed.

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WellShipmate 2 days ago

wow, that looks interesting!

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dacianmonerogold 2 days ago

I treat any market that doesn't at the least have a Monero payment option as compromised by the state. Of course optimum is mandatory Monero only if you truly care about your customers' privacy and safety.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

This project began before Monero existed. It isn't 'a market'.

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dacianmonerogold Yesterday

What do you mean it's no market? It says right on it's website it's a marketplace. It was supposed to be the unstoppable decentralized silk road if memory serves me right.

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throwawayo12345 Yesterday

I meant it in the sense of a normal website-based marketplace. It is much more involved to integrate XMR in a p2p app.

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OsrsNeedsF2P 2 days ago

I've always been fond of the OpenBazaar community. On one hand, you really have the BTC community pushing for Bisq, and on the other, you really have the BCH community pushing for OpenBazaar.

Monero tags along nicely with Bisq, but I think tagging with OpenBazaar shouldn't be underestimated when you consider how hard the average BCH community member pushes for adoption.

No matter what you think about the two little tribes, they each have their advantages and it's always nice when projects team tag along.

I would like to see not only OpenBazaar integration, but development too.

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physalisx Yesterday

> Bisq / OpenBazaar Don't they have completely different use cases? Not sure how you're comparing the two as "pushed" by either bitcoin fork.

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spirtdica Yesterday

They both have decentralization as an ethos

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

Simply supporting alts was sacrilege to the maximalists, even though OB was the first to adopt segwit and Bech32 out of ANY wallet or even the full node itself. They will also be integrating LN. It was forced to adopt alts when tx fees skyrocketed which demolished use of the platform. ___ Bisq is geared toward currency exchange while OB is for goods/services. They have always been friendly with each other. Yet now OB is dabbling in currency exchange.

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OsrsNeedsF2P 2 days ago

I didn't know that piece of history. Thanks!

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stewbits22 2 days ago

Hi I listed Bch for Btc and Bch for Zec! I see the listings on my store but not on the crypto listing page that shows offers from all sellers!

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FS112211 2 days ago

i dont get it why you are adding shitcoins to your multiwallet feature.

I hope you know that it is possible to trace all transactions in bitcoin, bitcoin cash, litecoin, ethereum and zcash? (nobody is using shielded transactions in zcash - and with the trusted ceremony, nobody wants to use zcash anyway)

Monero is the only cryptocurrency thats private and untracable.

So at the end Bitcoin & Monero is the real deal, these are the only true cryptocurrencies that matters, everything else is a shitcoin.

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oufouf08304 2 days ago

Calm down... now that they have a multiwallet they can start adding support for new currencies, just like trezor and ledger do.

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Javihache 2 days ago

Shut up dude...

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pix1000 2 days ago

can't please everyone

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oufouf08304 2 days ago

Great! Good job!

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

Time for the Monero community to get this coin merged into a project that seems to be purpose-built for it!

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eleitl 2 days ago

That's what he said. It should be added to it.

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chainxor 2 days ago

That is really cool!

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vendanto 2 days ago

Can't wait for :

use the API to make it possible to show products I have on OB in a webshop,
a feed option in OB which makes it possible to show products I have in my webshop on OB,
Option to pay for the products I see in a webshop with coming Haven app

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vendanto 2 days ago

Seems the API sub domain is down [https://api.openbazaar.org/](https://api.openbazaar.org/)

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CC_EF_JTF Sam - Operations Lead 2 days ago

This is the correct API documentation: https://api.docs.openbazaar.org/

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vendanto 2 days ago

Thanks, seems there is an incorrect URL on the OpenBazaar website in the top menu.

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CC_EF_JTF Sam - Operations Lead 2 days ago

Thanks for pointing that out, we'll get that updated.

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Thanathosza 2 days ago

Very slick. That will do much for usability.

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amorpisseur 2 days ago

Instead of focusing on supporting shitcoins, it might make more sense to focus on UX and discovery?

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savingfluffybunnies 1 day ago

Found the bitcoin fan.

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XmrRoid Redditor for less than 30 days 2 days ago

Still waiting for privacy currency support.

Who wants to jump thru hoops with btc and privacy.

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CC_EF_JTF OpenBazaar 2 days ago

I've heard that someone is working on an XMR API-based wallet that would allow integration into OpenBazaar. I hope that rumor is true. Zcash is in there now, though it only supports t-addresses at the moment.

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thethrowaccount21 2 days ago

And why isn't Dash available? We've been asking you guys to add us for over two years now, and still no support. Why not?

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tcrypt OpenBazaar 2 days ago

We don't just follow commands. Supporting new coins takes work and other coin communities have helped while Dash has not. With this new release it's easier to support new coins and Dash is on the shortlist of options.

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thethrowaccount21 2 days ago

In what way have other coins 'helped' that Dash has not? In most of the threads this contention is brought up but nothing specifically is referred to or linked to. That makes it a bit hollow...

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CC_EF_JTF OpenBazaar Yesterday

Reddit isn't the only platform where conversations happen. Glad that world doesn't exist.

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tcrypt OpenBazaar 2 days ago

Both the ZCash teams and Litecoin teams have had meetings with us and written code to help us support their coins. We have never heard from anybody from Dash.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

Both Zcash and litecoin developers have done work for integration. That is why both of them are supported. Dash can be. The project is open source. Do a pull request and have it merged.

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thethrowaccount21 2 days ago

That is the same excuse we keep hearing [since a year now](https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/64jbb5/dash_integration/) when in fact they have done nothing more than Dash has done.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

Yes they have. BTW has Dash funded a merge. Has Dash done anything other than complaining to OB devs to do the legwork for them?

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thethrowaccount21 2 days ago

>Yes they have. You're just saying this, where is your source? >BTW has Dash funded a merge. Why should dash fund a merge if they're going to add other coins that are much less used than Dash for free? That attitude seems spiteful and punitive. Don't you guys care about cryptocurrency adoption? Why are you trying to hinder dash's growth as much as possible? You guys are enemies just like the bankers are.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

Hinder? WTF? Who has stopped dash from doing anything? Must OB handhold you?

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thethrowaccount21 2 days ago

Its clear both by your unusually aggressive demeanor and the consistent refusal to add Dash that there is a competitive (or anti-competitive rather) reason for ignoring us. Dash is a fork of BTC so it is easier to add than other coins like Monero. Yet when people talk about adding it there's nobody coming out of the wood works making excuses for why they should 'do it themselves', **even though Monero requires the most work out of any coin!** You guys are being hypocrites and lying about it. Dash is also more widely used than Bitcoin Cash or ZCash and WAY MORE than Monero on a daily basis. So instead of being aggressive maybe you should question why OB is ignoring a very large, prominent cryptocurrency.

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iblethebible Yesterday

The reason Monero requires more work to integrate is because it is more secure, more decentralised, more private(in spite of what we know you're going to say to that) and in general a better currency for an open market. Dash is good for certain things. Not open free markets that's why no darknet markets accept it.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

I am not a member of OB1...just knowledgeable participant. All I hear is complaining and bitching that someone isn't carrying water for you

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dEBRUYNE_1 2 days ago

Can you define an "XMR API-based wallet" in more detail? On of the Monero developers (u/rbrunner7) also asked for more details, but alas did not receive a response. https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/acz3go/why_dont_you_accept_monero/edkslya/?context=3

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FullBase 2 days ago

Remembering the controversy regarding that Dwarfpool operator reeking in donations for this. The whole XMR environment is tainted. Zcash I personally would **never** even touch on a ten foot long pole. Compiled the software, seen the dependencies.

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thethrowaccount21 2 days ago

Not to mention all the people who've been stolen from using Mymonero. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/9wdijo/mymonero_has_been_stealing_users_funds_for_a_long/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7dpcyq/all_monero_drained_from_multiple_wallets_no/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7k8m1x/xmr_stolen_from_mymonerocom_some_facts/?utm_term=d46be229-4eb2-490b-b005-9adeb4ce3ddb&utm_medium=search&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=Monero&utm_content=1 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/9vtcqh/warning_5829_xmr_sent_out_from_mymonero/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/aa909a/xmrto_is_a_scam_taking_10_of_my_money_in_fees/

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

It has zcash

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dEBRUYNE_1 2 days ago

Only t-addresses are available as far as I can see, which are transparent and similar to Bitcoin.

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throwawayo12345 2 days ago

At this time...I think will change soon.

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knight222 2 days ago

I think cash shuffle is soon to be production ready.

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stewbits22 2 days ago

Excited to try it!

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throwawayo12345 3 days ago

https://youtu.be/U3N82PbhezM

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ABitcoinAllBot 3 days ago

Here is the link to the original comment thread. Or you can comment here to start a discussion. Author: throwawayo12345

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mrderrik Yesterday

I am less concerned with tZero as I am that development continues in such a great direction and the bright lights in the community continue building side projects integrating and helping the ravencoin ecosystem.

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NoTimeForInfinity Low Crypto Activity 1 day ago

Nobody's going to mention the doctor evil outfit?

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Bitbaby11111 Redditor for 6 months. Yesterday

He's a bit of an oddball. Maybe u need to be a bit different to see things before the crowd. He was pretty radical to take Bitcoin years back when no one would touch it. He's into meditation and eastern buddist thinking.

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project_a_jackie Yesterday

Nobody's going to mention the Michael Bluth from Arrested Development face?

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LordVoldemortsNipple Yesterday

Throw him a frickin bone

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babakabab Crypto Nerd 1 day ago

that's funny, now that you mentioned it.

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webb32503 Low Crypto Activity 1 day ago

#FLOMO

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mineURownbusiness 1 day ago

tZero is RVN's uncle. Any questions? Geez!

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FractalGuise 1 day ago

Some things we know so far:

RVN is used to create & transfer tokenized asstes.
tZero is a platform to trade tokenized asstes.
tZero is a subsidiary of Overstock.
Overstock holds RVN.

The current speculation:

tZero is going to trade assets created on the RVN network.
tZero will use RVN from Overstock to create assets to be traded on the exchange.

Also:

Overstock will incorporate RVN into the Bitsy wallet to provide fiat onramp.

EDIT: and $FLO

Check out @BlocktechCEO’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BlocktechCEO/status/1075989290641838080?s=09

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Pxrebirth 1 day ago

I hold RVN, mine it, and run a node so don't get me wrong, but its also possible that things could FLO in a different direction.

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FractalGuise 1 day ago

Yeah I know about $FLO.

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FractalGuise 1 day ago

Ahh, yes $FLO. Check out @BlocktechCEO’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BlocktechCEO/status/1075989290641838080?s=09

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mrderrik 1 day ago

Key word is speculation.

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RavencoinCultist2020 1 day ago

Agreed

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hartwog 1 day ago

Why does this matter to ravencoin?

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Pxrebirth 1 day ago

Real world utility of the coin could have a positive impact on price as outside speculators look to purchase a limited supply.

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Bufarete 1 day ago

Tzero is Ravencoin’s uncle. (Best way I can illustrate) Medici is RVN main dev Tzero and Medici are part of Patrick’s empire.

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Jeboaa Yesterday

in a nutshell 👏

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hellspar 1 day ago

Is tzero part of ravencoin? How does it effect rvn? Confused if anyone can care to explain, much appreciated.

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FractalGuise 1 day ago

As of right now I guess you could say it's "speculation". Here is a little of what we know so far: Ravencoin Network is used to create and transfer tokenized assets tZero is a platform for trading tokenized assets tZero is a subsidiary of Overstock Overstock holds Ravencoin tZero uses FLO for a record book. FLO plans on incorporating RVN at some point into their network. Some of the excitement comes from at some point, it's believed tZero will trade assets created on RVN. Overstock holds Ravencoin. With that, they create a fiat onramp, they own Bitsy which is a Bitcoin wallet with fiat onramp. Or the more exciting theory is that they use thier RVN to create asstes to be traded. Sorry if this is a bit scattered.

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Bufarete 1 day ago

Tzero is Ravencoin’s uncle. (Best way I can illustrate) Medici is RVN main dev Tzero and Medici are part of Patrick’s empire.

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hellspar 1 day ago

Thank you, I will be looking more into it.

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sheepiroth Crypto Nerd | QC: BTC 19 2 days ago

DLR records rolling in as recent as 3 minutes ago: http://floblockchain.org/tzero

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solid12345 Crypto Expert | QC: BTC 33, BCH 25, ARDR 16 2 days ago

It's amazing how many are still in denial about FLO's usage. Do they really think they are going to on day 1 switch to another chain?

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Charles005 Crypto God | QC: CC 229, REQ 158 2 days ago

Yea the proof is in the pudding but once there's an official announcement it's on.

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Skizzih 7 - 8 years account age. 200 - 400 comment karma. 2 days ago

Copying my comment from another FLO post from a couple days ago:

Another interesting FLO article:

@valueprop/flo-tzero-and-how-the-dlr-aims-to-disrupt-5bd34634f928">https://medium.com/@valueprop/flo-tzero-and-how-the-dlr-aims-to-disrupt-5bd34634f928

Looks like they're placing DLRs on the Flo blockchain. It's kind of dry but it's SEC legal show of interest for locating shorts. Certainly an interesting project now that actual companies are interested. Usefulness will drive real world adoption and this is institutional use: SEC regulated short locates. No doubt this will push forward blockchain technology.

Great work by the FLO dev team and the projects utilizing the FLO blockchain.

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bannercoin Crypto God | QC: CC 132, ETH 31 2 days ago

No idea if this will translate into gains for $FLO, but nevertheless, it's crypto and worth taking a shot for moon as /u/The_Magic_Sky_Fairy says.

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DeepSpace9er Crypto God | QC: CC 97, EOS 42, SC 36 2 days ago

Does FLO have enough hash power to be considered secure?

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bannercoin Crypto God | QC: CC 132, ETH 31 2 days ago

Don't know about the hash power specifically, but looks like they recently added security to help prevent a 51% attack. [https://www.flo.cash/roadmap.html](https://www.flo.cash/roadmap.html)

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The_Magic_Sky_Fairy 5 - 6 years account age. 300 - 600 comment karma. 2 days ago

They have 100 block reorg protection. I doubt a billion dollar company like Tzero wouldn’t have contingency plans if it was attacked.

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zedacouve WARNING: 4 - 5 years account age. 0 - 32 comment k 2 days ago

I wonder which crypto will be listed.

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Charles005 Crypto God | QC: CC 229, REQ 158 2 days ago

$Flo should be naturally, right? lol.

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zedacouve WARNING: 4 - 5 years account age. 0 - 32 comment k 2 days ago

I suppose... who knows what is going on there. I wonder if other projects like RVN will be listed too.

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Charles005 Crypto God | QC: CC 229, REQ 158 2 days ago

Yea that's another interesting one they've mentioned, I think about the framework in regards to RVN though.

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The_Magic_Sky_Fairy 5 - 6 years account age. 300 - 600 comment karma. 2 days ago

Florincoin to the moon

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Charles005 Crypto God | QC: CC 229, REQ 158 2 days ago

Yessir. Already 2x on my gains on Flo and expect much more from this. It's amazing what they're accomplishing with zero ICO funding like 90% of the shitcoins that emerged in 2017 lol

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