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In short?

An eye opening essay. thanks.

That sucks. Was really excited for something like this to work.

It's sad to see more projects shut down due to Ethereum's problems. Hopefully more diverse applications are once again possible in Ethereum. In my view, I wouldn't want it to become a DeFi only blockchain.

if its possible to be shut down then it wasn't decentralized to begin with

I wonder if this is a canary in the coalmine. Which other projects are now quietly closing shop... or moving elsewhere?

Really sad to see, it was such a great project. But you have to respect teams that give the money back to investors once they realize their initial plan isn't going to pan out rather than doing endless pivots until they've spent it all.

Wrong assumption #1 always seemed like a problem to me from day 1. Suprised you guys even tried to make it work.

All 'freemium' models where multisig wallets are created for free by the service provider on behalf of the user just won't scale in the long run. How can an SP afford even $1 per signup if its trivial to sybil attack that?

Argent will run into this problem also. It's only a matter of time.

This is a bummer. This is also a FANTASTIC post and outlines many problems, assumptions, and results, and I recommend everyone read this from top to bottom.

Best of luck to Alex and the rest of the UniLogin team in their future endeavors.

tl;dr An overview of the blog https://unenumerated.blogspot.co.il by Nick Szabo, the man behind bit gold and the term smart contracts. Touches upon many subjects including mental transaction costs, social scalability and proxy measures.

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Szabo aka Satoshi

This thing just gave me 4000 dlls

It's like year 2000 all over again.

Plenty of companies are more than happy to fork over their users...

So does it make sense to use that to help cover the cost of staking on Uniswap?

These guys could have made there tokens strictly available through yield farming but they really are committed to the vision of decentralization. Great job!

If you wanna fork a user, at least buy them a drink first

Good perspectives to keep thinking about.

> You can’t escape the fingerprints of thermodynamics

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Assume the real term time preference rate 0.5% and the worldwide average price of one kwh at 0.1 USD and the worldwide narrow money plus gold at 4.61E+13 USD, the annual energy budget to establish trust is 8.29E+18 Joules which is 1.42% of the annual worldwide total energy consumption 5.84E+20 Joules. Assume people don't change ratios of energy consumption of each economy sector as economy expands, the 1.42% of trust token maintenance/production sector remains. It means the energy fingerprints is always not an issue if the mining task can be decentralized.

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> Lightning ..

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People who buy in the Lightning scale solution may prefer staying off chain forever so OP's argument is not justified.

Oh no the scalability "problem" is back

Mining is likely to become more distributed we near hard physical limits on efficiency and mining chips are fully commoditized. Remember that electric space heater that mines?

Nobody's making money on lightning fees either, channels are one-time setup and rarely need to be closed. Seems like it's doing fine... anyone having issues?

Meme

Are we hurtling towards another situation where bitcoiners were promised cheap and free payments only to find out that's not technically feasible but this time with lighting? I think lighting is amazing but the last time this conception and reality diverged it caused the bitcoin community some major growing pains.

Despite the controversial title, I encourage anyone to give it a read, there are some good thoughts in it.

The TL;DR of the biggest point is: [large scale] mining is impossible to pull off without a thermodynamic fingerprint. This could create a systemic risk because miners are subject to their jurisdiction's laws/KYC obligations.

When you're powerless to help, all you can do is complain.

Thanks for sharing here.

I'd like to be a fly on Brian Armstrong's wall as he reads this.

Thanks for sharing, interesting read.

They left out an important privacy attribute of grin (pre-broadcast aggregation) but they would have reached the same conclusion nonetheless.

Don't lose the forest for the trees. Did anyone even read the paper?
Most of their suggestions, regarding Monero, if implemented by exchanges and payment service providers would mean a nightmare for everyone in this community except for those select few that are already well connected, have fancy lawyers and "optimal" legal structures.

We as a community shouldn't condone or incentivize this type of discourse, even if it means financial "gains" in the short term. Most of their suggestions if put in practice would be a direct attack on Monero users, and yet here we are, celebrating. As /u/geonic_correctly pointed out this paper feels like a missed opportunity more than anything else.

We as a community need to remain vigilant and not fall for the same traps that have plagued some other projects in this space, code can change, communities consensus can change, be mindful of playing the state apparatus game and hoping that somehow you'll "win" by playing by their rules. You'll lose, badly.

Even if some people would be financially better off in the short term. That was never Monero's goal, keep that in mind.

Cool. Been waiting for this one forever.

Great effort on this.

I did notice the following references to auditing Monero exist in the paper...

Specific view keys can be shared with any third party to grant insight into the account associated with the view keys.

...

The confidential transactions feature is a cryptographic tool that allows for verification that no additional XMR has been created or destroyed as part of a given transaction, without revealing the exact transaction amount. ^(42)

...

Unlike the Bitcoin protocol, Monero users have two sets of private keys and public keys (four keys total). The pair of public keys make up the wallet address of a Monero user, whereas the two private keys (the view key and spend key) allow an individual to determine whether an output is addressed to them (view key) and enables the individual to send XMR and determine whether it has been spent (spend key).^(43) To verify transfers of XMR, a third-party observer must know that the XMR is owned by the individual using it. To enable this verification, the individual using the XMR signs the previously received XMR with the one-time address used, thereby proving that the individual knows the private keys and therefore rightfully controls the XMR that the individual is using. The private view key may be given to others to grant transparency into certain details of particular transactions associated with the address or addresses. Monero also contains an optional text field called “tx_extra” that can store arbitrary data in encrypted format. While this text field can be used for a variety of compliance purposes, this use has not been widely recommended by researchers and developers.^(44)

… which are great!

But I personally would like to have seen a small section to show (via the Monero command-line system or a symbolic representation) some techniques, specific tools, and processes of exactly how legally liable entities or operators can, in PC's confidence, sufficiently comply, maybe with some basic examples for different entity types.

How awesome that PC did this!

Can I violate the money laundering law as a private person? Suppose I sell Monero on localmonero.co for cash. I cannot check whether the money comes from illegal transactions. I have to assume the innocence of the other person. The money laundering law turns this around. You have to prove your innocence.

With regard to the “ease of crossing borders” factor, privacy coins and other cryptocurrencies present a higher inherent AML risk than cash, which is physically bulky and therefore more difficult to transport across borders, because large amounts of cash would require sufficient physical transportation and passing government border security. But privacy coins and other cryptocurrencies arguably pose a lower risk, in this respect, than cash, card, or paper payment instruments, which can cross borders with no transfer record at all (i.e., not even a publicly broadcast blockchain transaction

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Where on-chain surveillance tools cannot be used, a VASP would still have ample controls to address AML risks of privacy coin transactions.

When Coinbase

Thank you for sharing this. Perkins Coie is very much of the "old generation". It's good to see they're writing about crypto at all.

Safety compliance is important!

Thank you team Tari

Good opinion, but we need a little more practical effort. I hope this report would be helps to convince the US Congress or crush their irrational regulations in court.

This is a huge feather in Monero's cap, or indeed any of the coins following in their footsteps.

Great work, and well done to all those involved in making it happen.

It's very encouraging to see this kind of high-level support for privacy, but I think it needs to be forcefully argued that "anti-money-laundering" laws themselves are a grievance assault on privacy rights.

The term 'anti-money-laundering' is an Orwellian euphemism for warrantless mass-surveillance of private financial interactions, and the existence and steady accumulation of these warrantless mass-surveillance laws is a fundamental affront to a free society.

While I applaud the effort, it's disappointing that they decided to amplify the "privacy coin" meme. "Privacy-preserving" or "privacy-enabling cryptocurrencies" should've been used throughout. I would've also liked to see a section on "privacy-eroding cryptocurrencies", starting with Bitcoin, and how that affects the individual user.

This was an opportunity to change the narrative around this technology and to underline how Bitcoin's radical transparency is the niche, not Monero's privacy-preserving technology. To explain to regulators and others that Bitcoin is unlike *any product* currently available in the financial world. Does any bank offer a transparent account that anyone can peer into? Why not?

The paper also misses some of the more important benefits of fungible money. Guilt by association is a thing with Bitcoin. You need to not only be sure of the person you receive your Bitcoin from, but also be careful who you spend it with, since that person might commit a crime and you are the source of his funds. Bitcoin erodes freedoms on so many levels it is preposterous.

Does it really matter? Cryptologists, mathematicians, scholars, security experts, all have testified before congress/senate stating the backdooring crypto just won't work. Yet the keep writing new bills and will until the anti encryption passes.

Tons of greats quotes in this one, including some where PC suggests privacy coins are lower risk in practice than Bitcoin, but the conclusion perhaps put it most simply:

"Allowing VASPs to support privacy tokens under current, tested AML regulations strikes the appropriate policy balance between preventing money laundering and allowing beneficial, privacy-preserving technology to develop"

I still don't see how it helps.

In sum:

We conclude that privacy coins protect legitimate individual and commercial privacy interests and that existing financial regulations sufficiently address the AML issues that privacy coins present.

And:

Not only do privacy coins provide public benefits that substantially outweigh their risks, existing AML regulations properly and sufficiently cover those risks, providing a proven framework for combatting money laundering and related crimes.

At long last!! Thanks Perkins!

Woo! Been waiting for this!

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When can I open an account? I am ready!

Congrats guys! That hard work paying off

Tweetstorm is way more epic!

Not your keys, not your Bitcoin

Kraken Financial, as a bank, is required by Wyoming law to maintain 100% reserves of its deposits of fiat currency at all times. If every client were to demand withdrawals of their fiat at the same moment, Kraken Financial would be able to fulfill each withdrawal immediately without regard to how many loans we had outstanding.

How are people not commenting on this? This post has been up for 13 hours and not a single mention of it.

This is fucking fantastic news guys. Things are being done right.

so im like here waiting for bankera to let me receive swift transfers from the us to get payed directly to an exchange without needing to convert to euro and kraken goes and buys a us bank. what will happen first. kraken allowing non us persons to open bank accounts to receive an ach which I believe will cost me zero or bankera having a way to receive swift transfers? i cant wait to be able to remove my current bank (dukascopy) from the equation of receiving my freelance payments (in my country there is currency control and the goverment forces you to convert your payments at a very very bad rate)

This is the just another beautiful step on our eah to $10,000.

Very interesting!! Adoption zone here!!!

Kraken needs to go easy on the email spam. I don't need an update on this every day.

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So, when will I be able to deposit my paycheck to Kraken for DAI?

This is good for bitcoin

This is non-news they were already a bank in europe

I would love to invest in Kraken. Is there a way to do that?

This is enormous news for the crypto community. Salute to all you who HODL!

Wyoming is the real hero here with its 13 blockchain laws.

“We would expect to offer a host of new products as we get established,” Kinitsky said. “Those will range from things like qualified custody for institutions, digital-asset debit cards and savings accounts all the way to new types of asset classes. We can engage with securities and commodities and things like that as a bank. So a lot more TBD there.” 

Look for JP Morgan to follow suit within a year.

IM assuming as a resident of Texas I wouldn't have access to Krakens services from Wyoming then again it seems as if services they are offering are the same as what JP Morgan would offer? Am I correct in this? IM trying to find out how much of this is a win for crypto.

Very interesting, looking forward to them expanding to europe.

This is a nice first step. Just goes to show how early we are in this space. It's gonna be a different landscape in another 10 years for sure.

Looking forward when dexes can onramp from fiat.

This, is HUGE. An extremely underrated event.

I just got some questions;

1. Can you please expedite the process of expansion of kraken financial services into more countries? Expanding to new countries as a bank is alot easier than as a crypto exchange. Is this a priority or not?

Having a bank that accepts fiat and crypto while issuing debit cards, bank statements and is recognised as a bank is a huuuuge plus.

2. it is very important that you start offering staking services and high yield deposited. Most crypto exchanges offer 5% or more on deposits of stable coins. Offering this on your exchange based wing will be easier than your bank based wing since you dont need to keep 100% reserve, do you plan on offering this in the future?

What new services will this allow for?

Sounds big if true

"There are 3500 publicly traded companies and there’s $5 trillion in their treasuries and it’s all melting and at some point, you have a fiduciary obligation to not lose the money.” The next 12 months are going to be very interesting.

‘Wow this social media site is really innovative, nothing else like it today. I should buy bitcoin’

MSTR stock up 10% today 👐

A bold decision that everyone will remember in the future as a stroke of genius.

The first to take the step, but certainly not the last.

voice is dead

It's great to have an excess of $500 million in cash to park.

Here's the thing: A lot of funds (pensions, insurance, hedge, universities and so forth) have the same "issue" of huge liquidity reserves. Many are willing to pay interest to hold government bonds - i.e. negative interest rates, when in fact they are meant to achieve a return on funds invested.

If some of them were allowed to invest just a portion of their funds into Bitcoin there's no worry about the missing demand side point of view in the S2F model.

Selling voice.com domain name for $30M to EOS creator but buying BTC only, that speaks volume about all the alt coins

Cool. Maybe it could inspire a 175m investment into EOS next.

This is a huge bet for a publicly listed company. I'm actually quite surprised that the shareholders would let him go all in like that. There is still lots of risk holding Bitcoin - theft of keys, severe bug, drop in price, etc. This could end up in triumph or tragedy.

"stacking sats", he said in a press release.

Taylor found himself reading up on bitcoin. He learned as much about crypto as fast as he could. Saylor said he pored over essays by “bitcoin luminaries,” listened to Nathaniel Whittemore’s and Anthony Pompliano’s crypto podcasts, scoured the internet for Peter Schiff’s bitcoin debates

LOL

“We just had the awful realization that we were sitting on top of a $500 million ice cube that’s melting,” Saylor said. MicroStrategy has settled on bitcoin as the treasury alternative.

“This is not a speculation, nor is it a hedge,” said Saylor. “This was a deliberate corporate strategy to adopt a bitcoin standard.”

Super bullish

The most I ever bet was $100 on the Superbowl for the Chargers

That could make him the richest man in the world in 10 years

It's Bitcoin. Duh.

Well look here, announced today, https://blog.kraken.com/post/6241/kraken-wyoming-first-digital-asset-bank/

Things are changing (moon)bois...

The first draft said (in the second bullet point), “This will streamline compliance, making it easy for state-licenses money transmitters like RIPPLE and Coinbase to work across multiple states...” they took Ripple out 🤑

This is what we need to see for XRP adoption!!!

Good for strike?

Compliance and regulation, in my opinion, will be essential in bolstering future adoption as it makes people less cared of crypto.

Wow, this is great news. They talk about releasing news on Thursday (so today?), any ideas when this might take place?

The framework will include 48 US states, further information to be released today.

We’re pleased to announce Jeremy Welch, co-founder of the popular Casa wallet service, is joining Kraken as our newest VP of Product.

In addition to his expertise as a cryptocurrency entrepreneur, Jeremy brings to Kraken a decade of experience leading product development at both startups and tech giants like Google. In his new role, he will be tasked with making it easier than ever for clients to buy and sell crypto assets with Kraken. 

This will include launching strategic improvements across Kraken’s product suite and leading the charge on new features to improve our existing user experience. 

Jeremy will also continue to serve as an advisor to Casa as it seeks to grow its non-custodial wallet offering, praised by users for enabling them to safely and securely store Bitcoin without the need for a custodian or exchange. 

To mark the occasion, we sat down with Jeremy to learn about his new position and to get his perspective on the industry’s past, present and future.

Kraken: Welcome to the team Jeremy! What makes you most excited about leading the product experience here at Kraken? 

Jeremy: I’m most excited about building a better future with such a talented team. It’s an incredible honor to learn from and work with Jesse and the other Krakenites around the globe. 

Kraken is the quiet juggernaut in the cryptocurrency world. We have a strong security stance and a culture focused on solving real problems for our large global customer base (we’re not just reinventing Wall Street on the blockchain). 

Despite already being a customer, it was honestly a surprise to see the breadth of initiatives Kraken is quietly building globally.  

There are very few teams that understand the real implications of Bitcoin and other new decentralized technologies. There are even fewer teams out there that have both the resources and the courage to invest in the big technology breakthroughs that are now starting to emerge. I feel very lucky to be working with a team that is aggressively pushing this world forward.

Your prior position was as a co-founder at Casa, a non-custodial wallet service. Why make the jump to a leading global exchange?

I spent almost four years building Casa before stepping away in January to focus on a family health issue. It was an incredibly tough decision to make, but I knew that my family needed my focused attention, and that I wouldn’t be an effective CEO while that was the case. 
After several months off, I started thinking about what would come next. It wasn’t just a question of the type of product or industry. 

My search for a new role was guided by three priorities: 1) Working with great people 2) Finding a culture focused on building a better future and 3) Flexibility to focus on family.
Those seem like straightforward requirements – but most companies out there offer a mixed bag when it comes to work impact, culture, location, etc. You might get to work on something important and new, but location flexibility or pay might be low. 

Kraken is a rare company – investing heavily in its teams, working on some of the most impactful technologies in the world and also enabling teams to work anywhere and anytime. 
Working at an exchange is extremely fast-paced, and we are still in the early stages of the cryptocurrency revolution. There’s so much to build. But within Kraken’s great team culture and work environment, I’ve found the pace of work to be strongly sustainable. 

The Kraken team has made it very easy for me to get things done while also finding time for family. This company is just phenomenal and I feel very fortunate to work here. 

Tell us a bit about your experiences as a cryptocurrency user. What challenges did you encounter and how will this inform your strategy for your new role? 

Using cryptocurrencies, and more broadly any kind of encryption or decentralized computing technology, is still too complicated. When we started Casa, it was out of a personal need and also out of concern for friends and family. I knew people who were attacked, who lost funds, and I saw centralized services fail directly.We made it easy for anyone to manage their funds directly with the best possible security using a carefully designed multi-signature personal key system. Today, it’s super easy-to-setup and easy-to-use with simple apps and 24/7 client service. 

At Kraken, I plan to use the same approach to improve overall user experience, but at an even larger scale. Exchanges are getting more complicated, not less. Increased scale, new security risks, new fintech experiences, new regulatory frameworks and new layer 1 and layer 2 technology improvements are all converging at the same time. 

If that wasn’t enough, something tells me that we’re about to see a whole new wave of customers coming into the market. For this group especially, I want to make their first experience a lasting one.  

Given your past experience, what do you see as the role for cryptocurrency exchanges in the customer journey? What trends do you think will most shape the sector in the next decade? 

Cryptocurrency is no longer a niche industry. More than just wider awareness by the financial industry and by consumers, the bigger sign is the new technologies like Microsoft’s ION project and Facebook’s Libra project. The future of fintech, consumer apps, and much much more will all be built on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. 

And timing is fitting. The Internet needs a new business model. The Internet also needs an updated and more resilient architecture. I think Bitcoin could be foundational for both of those, and I think the exchange plays a fundamental role in that foundation.  

Money isn’t just about taking and paying debt. It’s an information system. With cryptocurrencies we will see many more unexpected use cases emerge.  

For all these use cases to work, exchanges must work flawlessly and at massive scale. It’s both an exciting and a daunting future we are heading towards. 

What do you hope to achieve in your new role?

Right now, we’re focused on making many improvements to the core exchange experience, but there are also many new product areas we are investing in that I think will completely take people by surprise. I’m excited to be contributing to both, and to continue to build a great team.  

Kraken started as one of the first exchanges, and its strong security stance has now enabled it to scale into one of the largest globally. But we are still just getting started. We are working to bring better financial and data access to billions globally.  

Please reach out if you want to help us build a better future! You can review our jobs page. We are hiring across Product Management, Engineering Design, Product Marketing, Growth, support and much more.  

Can’t wait to share more of what we’re working on soon!

Once again, welcome Jeremy! 
– The Kraken Team

If we can't fix the peg, someone else will.

Im in shock at how its blown up so big....and out of nowhere.

How do they prevent the system from being under collateralized and perform liquidations? How is the peg maintained? Do they have a way to unwind the system if it becomes under collateralized? It's a very interesting project, bit I feel like there are major things that have not been explained yet

Would love to open a discussion for MKR holders on Andre Cronje's new StableCredit protocol. It seems to be a direct competitor to CDP's and Maker's Dai.

More layman explanations:

DC Investors explanation

Lisa Tan's explanation

What does this mean for Maker? Would it become obsolete?

Can someone eli5?

You can provide any asset and create tokenized credit called StableCredit USD (can also support EUR, JPY, etc).

Excited about this aspect. Not enough stable assets pegged to assets beyond USD yet. What are the Oracles being used here? Chainlink?

Also how about StableCredits for XAU/precious metals? Or are they not stable enough for StableCredit?

The AMM defines the premiums at which you borrow/repay assets.

Any models yet that define how those premiums are distributed? Presumably lion share to LPs, small share to the Treasury?

Seems like a very good idea. Their primary arguments are "it isn't technically well defined" (bills don't often specify hundreds of functional and non functional tech requirements, "doctors aren't sure if it's okay to go out if you're not sick" (the best argument but that's far more general a problem) and "poor people don't have smartphones" (I'm not sure about the stats on this, but children in sub saharan Africa have smartphones).

For a second I thought I was in r/technology

Good god, on top of everything else (and there’s a lot of “everything else”) we can’t even be sure that the presence of currently known antibodies guarantees that a person is no longer contagious. No matter how convenient (which it isn’t), or legal (which it isn’t), or well-executed & strictly enforced this is (which it won’t be) the data is simply not reliable enough to make this assertion at this time.

Jesus Christ. California is out of control

You get what you vote for. Good luck with that dystopian mess.

Sniff, sniff. I bet there's a money trail that leads to sponsors or sponsors files that are into speculative tech stocks relying on finding a purpose for blockchain.

Stupidist thing I've heard on a while. Well, Stupidist thing today. OK, the last hour because I just stopped reading the national news.

You need phones that do not track you. -: Rob Braxman :- on YouTube and LBRY

So what is the solution? Pray do tell

If anyone was wondering why there were mempool problems in 2017 that seemed like this, similar attacks popular around that time.

The vulnerability was discovered on Friday, June 22nd, 2018

price didn't really move during these dates. how nice of them not to dump and then tell the public.

Coindesk report: https://www.coindesk.com/high-severity-bug-in-bitcoin-software-revealed-2-years-after-fix

Summary: an attacker sends an INV message to a victim node with 49,999 hashes of transactions that don't exist. The victim node stores all those hashes in memory and waits for the TXs to arrive (they never do). The process can be repeated quickly until the victim node is out of memory.

For those who don't know, bcoin is an alternative implementation of Bitcoin for nodejs. It's not altcoin, it's a bitcoin fullnode, SPV node, and bip44 wallet library written in JavaScript.

An outstanding article providing deep insight into the upcoming market conditions and the likely fate of the Ethereum killers. Definitely worth your time to read.

One obvious conclusion, if Ethereum 2.0 is successful then the Ethereum killers are in for a very bad time. There are many others to discover in the article.

TL;DR

“ In the coming quarters, a high density of “Ethereum Killers” (EKs) plan to launch their mainnets, and in so doing, release their assets to the public crypto markets. The transition of price discovery from the private to public markets will be an important one to watch and understand, especially considering many EKs carry billion-dollar anticipated launch values.

To begin, I expect most of the EKs to face extreme downward pressure from their attempted listing prices. Two recent bellwethers for this pattern have been Algorand’s ALGO and Hashgraph’s HBAR (click the links to see price action). I write this with zero schadenfreude as the ramifications impact Placeholder and many of our entrepreneur and investor friends in the industry.”

Great article, thanks.

I wish I could upvote this twice. Berry Goob.

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Odunjo sources handsets and accessories from China and the United Arab Emirates. His Chinese suppliers asked to be paid in the cryptocurrency, he said, for speed and convenience.

The article further explains how his life is made simpler and profits larger by not having to buy dollars to do business.

This is how economies work in the real world and people need to get up to speed before the fantasyland fiat Ponzi implodes.

Tick-tock, TICK-TOCK...

How to contact the team behind this event?

I love when people on this website explain to me how America is the most capitalist country to ever exist. What a load of bullshit.

That sounds a bit socialist.

I cannot see anything possibly going wrong with this

I think it's not a question of whether the fed has it in control or not. The difference lies in the attitude towards financial markets of Jay Powell and Janet Yellem. Though its true that Jay Powell is faced with a unique circumstance of the pandemic but they are trying too hard to prevent a crises or prevent recession rather than allowing the economic cycle to run its course and taper it. There is a difference in tapering and prevention. Historically, preventive measures have led to an exacerbation of a crises in the long run. The economic cycle is supposed to run its natural course.

Huh... glad I’m getting granite countertops in the next two weeks

Could someone ELI5? What are the consequences of the fed owning US mortgages? Does it act like a loan? Is whats happening similar to the mortgage debt crisis? Thank you

I'd have thought it'd be more towards forty.

B A S T A R D S.

We are becoming more and more Chinese state capitalist by the day.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

socialize those losses baby, yes american capitalism. definitely a free market problem.

1. The federal reserve is a private entity despite the name and despite how they control the economy.

2. The idea of the fed was fought long and hard by true patriots of our country until eventually the right votes and politicians were purchased and the fed was created in 1913.

3. The fed influences the US dollar and US monetary system by providing a centralized command center for banks that unilaterally have huge impact on the overall economy, eg. Interest rates, purchase or offering of bonds, etc.

4. The feds influence on the US economy has grown over the decades and the power it has continues to grow as stock investors say “dont fight the fed”, etc.

Google a little bit to get to know the federal reserve, despite what you are told or led to believe. Eg. Is a governmental part of the system, owned by noone, answers to noone, has no influence in the market, is here to help people not banks, etc. is a good google, trust me.

You’ll be shocked at the number of school loans then!

The US runs only to make money off of its citizens.

That’s Capitalism, baby. finger guns

Socialized housing program! Less likely to collapse economies this way.

I smell a mortgage crash coming soon to a real estate market near you.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

This is beyond crazy! Imagine how different the Great Recession would have been if the FED acted with the same velocity back then as they are now. Would have been a completely different ballgame.

Just bring interest rates to negative and the have nots will benefit, but the haves will never allow that

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BlackRock to the rescue /s.

The next housing bubble, which isn’t that far, will bring down fed.

Perfectly normal for the government to interfere with markets, that’s capitalism... /s

What is the point of banks these days when it is all the FED? Banks are just a user interface for borrowing money for the FED. How about abolishing banks and just allowing direct lending from the FED.

We are politically in a situation where the government cannot say, fuck it, we are not going to eat up the risk of the private corporations.

The great reset will happen once all the mortgages are on their books.

Again?

I’ll just leave this here:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/smccf.htm

So quasi-socialism owns mortgages.

Congrats to the ENS team! ENS domains are a great fit for naming oracle contracts

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ENS is receiving a grant to:

Create the capability to generate immutable, censorship-resistant, and human-readable domain names for Chainlink oracle contract addresses, increasing the security of how Chainlink network addresses are accessed and displayed.

I was just thinking about the high cost of ENS on Ethereum and what the roadmap looks like. Then BAM, I open up Reddit and see this post!!

Great work ENS team!

ENS is receiving a grant to:

- Create the capability to generate immutable, censorship-resistant, and human-readable domain names for Chainlink oracle contract addresses, increasing the security of how Chainlink network addresses are accessed and displayed.

- Build a Layer 2 Rollup based solution for verifying DNSSEC proofs for ENS domain names on Ethereum without having to do the computation on-chain.

If you sold out at $480 earlier this week, you should be planning to rebuy at these lower levels.

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Switzerland is considered very stable relative to other sovereign govts.

If you elect sb like Bolsonaro it's not fun to pay taxes, I get it. But in states with working governments most people are fine with paying taxes. It's not theft, it's sharing. If everything is buildt voluntarly only the wealthy will profit from this "public goods".

Good step for adoption. Another use for bitcoin holders in Switzerland!

What a great scam to get rid of your anonymity. Once they link the address to your name they know all you’re transaction related to that address.

Tax , currency, reserve currency status aside, IMO, All countries should diversify their holding in their financial department unless that country has no intent to participate in global trade.

I think this is very good: if taxes were collected entirely with cryptocurrency, you can know exactly where tax money go.

For a sec I thought they meant ETH Zurich, the uni, until I read the sub name

Get lost

Gotta love the Swiss -- at least they are open to exploring this types of payments

From the article

"A pilot of the tax scheme is set to be trialed in the coming weeks, ahead of the planned February 2021 launch."

Is this Swiss government responsible for creating the pilot? Are they working with vendors in the ecosystem?

Buy something people don’t want so you can sell it to them when they do want it! Invest in $PCN Peepcoin 👀 - privacy is a right not a privilege.

I was at an event yesterday where finance minister of Switzerland, Bundesrat Ueli Maurer said "you shluld not should close your eyes from blockchain and cryprocurrencies".

Only thing left is utility bills and rent. With a crypto card you’ll soon be able to go completely cashless.

I wonder if this is more to get your wallet addresses.

“Swiss” sounds cool but it’s not a country. Our country is named Switzerland and the Swiss live here. Swiss is an adjective, not a noun.

I know hyping stuff seems like you're helping the cause, but posts like this are the reason why skeptics continue to roll their eyes at crypto.

This is clickbait garbage. You're hurting the cause.

Let's get a poll to see who will use bitcoin to pay their taxes

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...from my cold dead hands!

jk, pay your taxes people. it's not theft when other people vote for it. there is just no way we could figure out how to build a road without coercive force.

Isn't one of the purpose of cryptocoins to make yourself free of taxes?

the main point here was to force the cantonal banks to accept payments from crypto companies. They would refuse a payment from Bity or BTCS to your own account, but can not refuse a payment to the state's account. And honestly I find it really a good way to force adoption.

Even though its a clickbait title, is there a reason why most new Bitcoin developments and degrees of acceptance seem to be in Europe?

Waste of screen time

Why are there only 9 nodes in Berlin?

Is Lighthouse ready yet?

Bullish! any info on how to do this? Thanks

https://1ml.com/

This is where one can check lightning stats. We were sitting at 1000 BTC for months and now are sitting at 1056. Honestly guys, nothing to brag about. Keep pushing companies to adopt lightning.

I'm really enjoying lightning I'm glad it exists! It's much easier these days then it was at the beginning. The apps for phones just make it so usable even for novices now. I wish the US would figure out this tax situation. IRS came out and said even microtransactions and used the example of less than a dollar are still required to be reported on taxes! What a pain in the azz!!!!

$12.4m? And it is almost 2021?

Embarrassing TBH

-> These stats only count public channels. So it's a subset of the total capacity!

I saw 'Rally' and checked the price. Still under 20k :-(

Lmao $12.4 million while defi TVL hit $9.5 billion last night. Just putting things in perspective here

Anyone know where I can find a basic- intermediate explination of blockchain forks and what they mean/ main ones and differences. I gotta say I’m pretty confused

If I'm not mistaken all the new capital locked up from mobile wallets in private channels aren't counted in this statistics as it's hidden

How do I use lightning on my Iphone?

Glad my 0.03btc pushed it to a new high.

$12mn is what a maxi would normally call a shit coin

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I see already the next WireCard etc. issue where all are linked and issued by one entitiy, and when he goes down the other go with it like domino.

Imagine coinbase being down when you are at the petrol station.

This won’t happen for years. Huge amount of red tape to pass.

Fractional reserve too, I bet. Withdraw as soon as possible.

You guys need to wake the F up, and STOP using these exchanges who sell your personal details, gets hacked left and right, and outright OWNS your coins. It's complete bullshit, and we need 2nd layer DEX's and FAST.

The only one I know off currently is stakenet's Lightning DEX, which allows instant private trading over the Lightning network via their masternode network, who makes the whole thing decentralized.

Fuck these exchanges, don't need them... Oh, and Stakenet's DEX can access these CEX's via liquidity providers, so good bye KYC, hahah.

But I want to be my own bank

If this happens, major banks will want crypto deposits too. This is already happening in Korea.

America baby, You Gotta Pay To Play!!

I know fighting the good fight has been one of Ted’s objectives but I hope it is not getting too emotional and commercial decisions are correctly made for the project - those who try to change history first are not always rewarded kindly....

Well if Ted/ KIK Interactive had to settle now, they arguably have the money for it (thanks to the SOL they are getting). A settlement wouldn't be as much of a win...but I would still be happy just to put all this behind us for good.

Interesting ending, for now. Tezos still not marked as security. It seams like the general sentiment is it’s ok to pay SEC fine as long as it gets the project out of crosshairs for the time being. Even though there is exactly no more clarity.

It almost feels like crypto projects have to pay the local school bully for existing, and deal with the shakedown.

Interesting to see what this, if any, plays into our case.

I never understood why ppl hyped Tezos so much during the ICO. There's literally nothing to be excited about, where's the innovation... oh wait let me stake my Tezos so I can let it sit like a bank account so I can collect a measly APR.