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DankBanLawdee 14 hs ago

https://youtu.be/_BZvkkEKBvI

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Raz98 Yesterday

Noooooo! You cant just go into space! Who's going to fund foreign aid?!

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glacialthaw 7 hs ago

haha space rocket goes brrr

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autotldr Yesterday

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 66%. (I'm a bot)

They will perform tests on Crew Dragon in addition to conducting research and other tasks with the space station crew.

Although the Crew Dragon being used for this flight test can stay in orbit about 110 days, the specific mission duration will be determined once on station based on the readiness of the next commercial crew launch.

The Demo-2 mission will be the final major step before NASA's Commercial Crew Program certifies Crew Dragon for operational, long-duration missions to the space station.

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autotldr Yesterday

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 66%. (I'm a bot)

They will perform tests on Crew Dragon in addition to conducting research and other tasks with the space station crew.

Although the Crew Dragon being used for this flight test can stay in orbit about 110 days, the specific mission duration will be determined once on station based on the readiness of the next commercial crew launch.

The Demo-2 mission will be the final major step before NASA's Commercial Crew Program certifies Crew Dragon for operational, long-duration missions to the space station.

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01000111_01001010 Yesterday

You can watch the launch live on 5/27/2020 @ 4:33 PM EDT.

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mfb- 1 month ago

Saturn V - Space Shuttle - Falcon 9

Nice video collection.

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OgodHOWdisGEThere 1 month ago

Why is anything produced by an american institution accompanied by at least one instance of terrible graphic design? that logo looks like something from a nursing home bulletin board.

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FutureSpaceNutter 1 month ago

I think it's supposed to look like a license plate.

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averagejoejesse 1 month ago

Couple of interesting things from the article.

The Falcon 9 rocket is "specially instrumented" for this mission.
Duration of crew stay won't be determined until they are onboard station.

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mfb- 1 month ago

Not longer than 110 days, and from the extended training we can expect at least 2 months.

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fd6270 1 month ago

I imagine it's probably additional telemetry gathering equipment for NASA because it's still technically a test flight.

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RocketRunner42 1 month ago

Hmm, I think it needs more patriotism /s

"...American astronauts once again launch on an American rocket from American soil..."

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mfb- 1 month ago

"breathing American air"

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GeckoLogic 1 month ago

Well except for those atlas motors 😂

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quarkman 1 month ago

Except the mission is launching on a Falcon 9 which uses Merlin engines, built on Hawthorne, CA.

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ClearlyMindless 12 hs ago

Does the virus live and replicate in sewage?

Apparently cats and dogs get C19, what about other wildlife? Fish? Does our sewage contact rats that will spread it?

Do we have a big spread risk here?

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mingy 11 hs ago

> Does the virus live and replicate in sewage? It does not. A virus needs a suitable live host cell to reproduce and those don't exist in sewage. They are detecting viral RNA fragments, not the actual viral particles. Those take much longer to degrade.

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cornchipnsalsa 16 hs ago

So can sewage infect people?

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OrganOCreme 15 hs ago

Not if you keep your mouth closed and just snack sparingly.

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cornchipnsalsa 3 hs ago

Snack sparingly on sewage? I joke but I’m actually concerned about this. Considering the US doesn’t separate water to potable / non-potable. My understanding water is processed and reused. Doesn’t water than have the potential for contamination

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OrganOCreme 1 h ago

Yes they do, what do you think we are a third world country? We invented modern water filtration in the 19th Century. Turned the river in Chicago backwards and all that. They only reuse water in Orange County and a few other places and it’s filters and is cleaner than fresh water. They do the exact same thing in Singapore with like half of their water and it’s fine. That’s right if your reading this in Singapore and drinking a cool glass of water, it has millions of people’s pee in it...

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Asmonymous Yesterday

Now where on earth outside of labs do you get a .99 correlation in anything?

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androstaxys 13 hs ago

Basically nowhere? Seems like data is not available for public/mass analysis. Two things that make me rein in the high hopes here.

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djnate08 Yesterday

I don’t trust an r2 measurement that high.

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BusinessProstitute 20 mins ago

Totally! If I were ever presented with that I would verify everything in dataset and calculations until i was absolutely certain I was right. I wouldn’t believe it myself without a ton of scrutiny, no way anyone else would.

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Covfefetarian 15 hs ago

Is the data made public anywhere, so we could replicate the analysis? (Fellow statistician here)

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Javlington 15 hs ago

This needs an answer

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stat-chick Yesterday

Looks like they regressed the “smoothed” values, which is not appropriate.

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Thetrashman1812 11 hs ago

If I’m correct though (and it’s been a while since I’ve had to read reports like this) isn’t the smoothed data different and higher than the .994 result. Also with how little deviation there is in the numbers what is smoothing actually doing here besides removing some wild ass outliers. Once again haven’t really thought about statistics and scientific research in while so maybe I’m completely off base. These are just my first thoughts after a quick read through of the results

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NoMadTruffle 9 hs ago

R=0.996 is for RNA levels vs hospital admissions after adjusting for 3 days lag, R=0.994 is for RNA levels vs cases after adjusting for 7 days lag. In both cases they used smoothed data. I can understand using smoothed data if they're going for proof of concept to predict future admissions/cases (I'm assuming the LOWESS smoothing method they used is a moving average that only relies on past data points, if not then wouldn't be applicable in real life), but then it should be clearer that the correlation is near perfect only AFTER applying this heavy processing. Still it would have been better to report R for both non smooth and smooth data. They did plot individual data for hospital admissions and based on that the R would not be anywhere close to 0.9; they didn't even show individual points for cases. The paper hasn't been peer reviewed yet so they might have to modify it quite a bit.

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NoMadTruffle Yesterday

Yea that's super shady

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kipkipCC Yesterday

.994 holy shit

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-Natsoc- 8 hs ago

Usually “perfectly” is not among the vocabulary of scientific studies, this time though it appears to be justified

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lex52485 15 hs ago

Statistician here. Holy shit is right (assuming methodology is sound, which I haven’t looked at yet)

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BoobaVera 17 hs ago

(Almost) wholly shit

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mcwollweber Yesterday

Can somebody dumb this down for me?

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Big_Tree_Z 12 hs ago

Yeah, some commenters have probably explained it enough already, but an R value that high generally means there’s a very strong correlation. Another commenter mentioned 98.8% coverage of variance within the results. That’s the R^2 value. Literally square the R.

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jstrap0 9 hs ago

And figuratively.

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NohPhD Yesterday

The COVID virus can be found in feces in sewage from infected individuals, even before they are symptomatic. In lieu of massive individual testing, the detection of and amount of SARS-CoV-2 in sewage can be a useful proxy for public health experts to forecast COVID-19 impact to local governments. Individual testing is a lagging indicator (yeah, you’ve got C19 or no you didn’t have C19). The sewage test results are a leading indicator, meaning it can be used to predict things like potential patient loads up to a week in advance.

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auctor_ignotus 8 hs ago

Patient loads predicting patient loads

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lhospitalsrule Yesterday

And it is a VERY strong relationship, like nearly perfectly correlated. The model explains 98.8% of all variance, which is kind of incredible.

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imastationwaggon Yesterday

....as a layman, is it *too* incredible?

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NoMadTruffle 9 hs ago

Too incredible because they did a lot of heavy processing. They did something like a moving average (but I'm not sure if the LOWESS method they used only takes into account past data, i.e. Could they use this smoothing method in real life to build the line as they go along or not?). And then shifted the lagging curve a few days ahead so they would overlap nicely with each other, THEN used those points in the smoothed out line to calculate R. Fig 2A shows the scatter of true data points for RNA levels and hospital admissions - the R for unsmoothed data would be a much more realistic, lower number. I'm not an expert in modelling future clinical outcomes so maybe this is a common method to do things? Idk but seems disingenuous and easily sensationalised to me.

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jackharvest Yesterday

No. Just the right amount of incredible.

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TheGapeGatsby Yesterday

Oh shit.

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CalicoFlannel Yesterday

Such a potty mouth!

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bplipschitz Yesterday

If this is reproducible, it could really help response activities.

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mendelevium34 Yesterday

"SARS-CoV-2 RNA concentrations were a seven-day leading indicator ahead of compiled COVID-19 testing data and led local hospital admissions data by three days. Decisions to implement or relax public health measures and restrictions require timely information on outbreak dynamics in a community."

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Madman200 Yesterday

This article is great. There's so much you can learn about a population from it's sewage, and indeed testing sewage may give a better picture of the scale of a disease outbreak.

However, the study is discussing a US metropolitan area centered around New Haven, Connecticut. It's very possible we might see similar results in Canadian locations but this study isn't making any predictions about cases in Canada.

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rationalphi Yesterday

Fun fact: Statistics Canada did a pilot study on detecting levels and trends in regional drug use via waste water testing.

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travman6 Yesterday

I remember that one, Atlantic Canada took 1st place for cannabis smoking. Trailer park boys is an exaggeration, but only a little bit. Edmonton took 1st place for Meth.

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Yawgmoth2020 Yesterday

Next week on Dirty Jobs...

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untrolldieurosport Yesterday

Top comment god

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christ344 Yesterday

I don’t know the top comment god but I know like the secretary of his underling, top comment demigod.

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h3yn0w75 Yesterday

Good summary and graph to outline the findings here : https://twitter.com/brennanspiegel/status/1265119535901732865?s=21

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bythesword86 Yesterday

It’s in the fucking water?

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Alces_alces_Alces Yesterday

In the waste water, from your stool and urine, inactive parts of the virus can be found. It is part of how your body removes the waste from mounting an immune response.

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bythesword86 Yesterday

Thank you, I'm gonna read the paper later but I'm assuming this means the virus is dead while in the sewage?

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Alces_alces_Alces Yesterday

Yup it is inactive virus.

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jtmilton 41 mins ago

sure they did

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chaneagle Yesterday

coronavirus这个sub的评论相当理性呀，意外

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unspeakableguardian 自定义 Yesterday

按同样比例估算，全中国大概最多有几万个无症状感染者

可怕

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grando_foo Yesterday

武汉是震中，跟其他地方没法比

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unspeakableguardian 自定义 Yesterday

*最多* 这是上限，上限...

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grando_foo Yesterday

不是说只有四百万结果已经出来么，而且准确率可能还不太准，看微博上有人抱怨输出病例比例都不止这么点，光重庆就输出了二十多例，有没有可能是混检降低了阳性率？

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judytheyang Yesterday

我真的完全不了解相關知識....10個人混合的唾液是否會影響檢測結果？

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psilot Yesterday

pooling test在coronavirus 版很早就讨论了，德国就是这么搞的

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judytheyang Yesterday

我沒跟到那篇討論文...我再去找找，畢竟也不是自己專業領域

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grando_foo Yesterday

我也不了解，不过十天测完属于政治运动，测完了就行了

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Shifu_Chan Yesterday

有阳性再查

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ccceler Yesterday

有一说一，中国这次防疫确实可以。但是也暴露出医疗资源极度匮乏的现状。各位反贼没有必要无脑黑。

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Spinkcat Yesterday

我认为后期疫情处理是可以的，应该庆幸的是没有大规模在国内爆发，全国集中医疗人力到一个地方，但基本上都是医疗系统给行政决策错误背锅，中国医生战斗力足够强，但没法干涉行政决定，这是最大问题。

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FreedomNeverFree Yesterday

全世界的防疫物资都被你匪搜刮回了中国，全世界主要的防疫物资生产工厂都集中在中国，就这还叫唤医疗资源匮乏，那些没口罩没呼吸机的让人怎么活？

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kenji25 Yesterday

这次疫情我对武汉市的红十字只有15人编制说一次笑一次，难怪中国的红十字会一直闹笑话。后续处理确实可以，但我还是认为前面为了春运不封城是今天局面的最大原因

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aVneckshirt Yesterday

我觉得是在应对这方面更加显示出整个医疗制度的问题，虽然相对affordable却不分散。一旦发生疫情，这么大的城市难以应对。反正武汉初期的问题都是很值得去反思和改进的。但是防疫真的还可以了，严格的检测和隔离，后续医护人员感染几乎没有。我昨天还看到reddit有人说方航的轻症隔离是不人道的，就老美这样的想法，难怪不相信国内疫情好转。

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matterrun Yesterday

幸存者偏差，而且信息不公开，您是从何得出中国抗疫可以的结论的? 病毒来源各种反转？病毒传播方式各种反转？中国的损失顶多算未知。虽然抗疫力度和一杆子插到底的程度肯定远大于欧美国家，不过从这您就得出结论了是否有点

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rose8025 Yesterday

做科研本来就是不断推翻各种假设的过程。你要说政府早期为了维稳有意隐瞒，这个我承认。但是你要求政府在没经过充分证伪的情况下就对一个病毒定性，是不是有点无理取闹？

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matterrun Yesterday

要求政府定性？不是政府一直在用媒体定性吗😅。而且我的重点是不知道结果哪里来的结论

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rose8025 Yesterday

政府什么时候有过结论？除了基因跟蝙蝠吻合是个结论，其他不都是猜想吗？问题的关键是这个病毒比较特殊，谁来都没用。美国拥有世界上最多的病毒样本，最好的医学团队，不也得出新冠是大号流感这个结论吗？那个不更离谱？你的逻辑简单的说就是一个路人在嘲笑陈景润解不开哥德巴赫猜想

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jayantony Yesterday

去chonglang不好吗？

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matterrun Yesterday

虽然这里五毛挺多，但还是能看到很多有内容的帖子呀，别开除我sub籍，求

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jayantony Yesterday

我没资格开除你，只是觉得chonglang更适合你这种人，在这儿待多了怕脏了你的思想

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matterrun 15 hs ago

没事，这里爱扣帽子的人还不多，等多了我再走吧

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41957228425 Yesterday

你说的信息不公开，病毒来源等等跟防疫措施有关系吗？当然，和台湾（#1）是比不了，但就凭和欧美比，给个“确实可以”的结论也没太过分。

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matterrun Yesterday

中国的损失有人知道吗?连结果都不清楚怎么得出的结论啊？而且防疫力度我不是赞同了吗?

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barghestlist Yesterday

Imagine the transmission rate in those lines...

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ScreamSAW Yesterday

测了九百万人多少有抗体的呢？有没有什么官方数据🙏

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grando_foo Yesterday

这次是核酸检测，之前财新有篇已经被删的文章说1.1万人抽查抗体约有5%的人阳性

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xenocloud1989 Yesterday

不知道有多少抗体但好像发现了238无症状携带者

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Order_____66 Yesterday

This is why China will become the dominant world superpower in the next 20 years.

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EthanHu98 Yesterday

I would like to add how China can improve its testing capacity. Several samples are test at the same time. If they are negative, all are negative. If they are positive, then every sample is tested respectively. The validity of this method was confirmed by a research (not a Chinese domestic research). The validity is quite guaranteed when less than 30 samples are put together. This campaign is the first to massively use this method in Covid-19 testing. By doing this, Wuhan can get about 10x capacity and its original capacity was about 50k-80k per day. With some other support from other part of China, this is not hard to be done.

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COVID19MurderHornet Yesterday

I think it was Stanford who did the research and proved the 30 samples accuracy, and Wuhan did it with 10 samples for better accuracy.

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ultraformaggio Yesterday

Chiamatemi stronzo, ma ho smesso di credere ai dati epidemiologici cinesi da un paio di mesi.

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EMOSCAMBIO Europe Yesterday

Un commento per nulla scontato e molto originale, complimenti

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ultraformaggio Yesterday

Ti ringrazio per il tuo sarcasmo , buona giornata, kissini

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alberg_30 Yesterday

I wonder if this was partly a public stunt to rectify the massive discrimination. When I left China a couple months ago, people from Hubei were total pariahs.

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uglyraed Yesterday

I still think the virus needs to be studied further to develop better testing mechanism. It is already hard to tell the difference between asymptomatic and people that are only shedding dead viruses from their body.

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lzghome Yesterday

Honestly, as a Chinese person who has been in Beijing since birth, I appreciate the objectivity of reddit

I read the WSJ's original message, and some say that China has learned from Korea (in fact it's Korea that references China to some extent), some say that the Chinese government can never be trusted, but in fact people in all countries are not stupid, and China's infectious disease expert Zhang Wenhong said that infectious diseases can't be contained.

Not everyone at reddit believes in China, but I have met people who are willing to believe. We live here, are born here, in fact we are exposed to more information, at least I personally think we have more of a say than

It's more realistic to hear what a few real Chinese people and long-time Chinese residents have to say than what the Western media has to say

At least I think so.

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magic27ball Yesterday

There's a strong need in their propaganda to setup South Korea as an example of success since it's the only country in their ideological camp that's not FUBAR, which is ironic since it's China that produces all those tests, not Korea, and if they actually asked China for help instead of writing propaganda praising Korea they'd actually have the pandemic under control and not cause China to come out the biggest winner. Not the first group in history to fall via hubris but still amazing to witness none the less.

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lzghome Yesterday

I agree with you. In fact, before South Korea they set the example of Singapore, but after the Singaporean labor camp raised its voice for mass infection, the Western media quickly abandoned him In fact, South Korea's approach is so tough that it even includes electronic shackles for those who refuse to be segregated, and foreigners who do not comply with the mandatory 14-day segregation policy will be asked to forcibly leave the country and could face up to three years in prison or a fine of up to 20 million won. And oddly enough, I don't see media like the Wall Street Times specifically reporting on South Korea's epidemic prevention measures, nor do I see any Western countries specifically learning about South Korea's epidemic F control policies. Praising South Korea shouldn't be about proving how advanced its ideology is, but rather about learning from its experience in dealing with epidemics to protect its own people, shouldn't it? It's times like these when life is what counts.

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_Dildo_Shwaggins 1 day ago

So does this mean trump is not number 1 in testing anymore? I wonder how he is going to take this L? Also it appears they are doing a mouth swab test? How accurate is that?

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real_loganation 1 day ago

But America is the hugely best at testing.

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HAmerberty 1 day ago

One of the important reasons Wuhan is doing this, is to give people confidence. Not only the US, China also suffered a lot economically during the pandemic. Even Wuhan is open now, many people are afraid to go out, so businesses are still struggling. People from Wuhan don't want to go shopping or dining out, people from other provinces are afraid to go to Wuhan. This result will find the last few carriers, and give people more confidence. Even it will cost a lot, the benefit is far more than its costs.

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alberg_30 Yesterday

People in other parts of China are also afraid of contact with Hubei residents. This might be an attempt to alleviate those fears.

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lzghome Yesterday

Confidence comes from public health strategies, from testing and treating all When everyone is tested and treated, confidence naturally comes back, doesn't it? Americans facing a new crown epidemic can only remind me of The Governor and Deanna from The Walking Dead.

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allsurrender Yesterday

It’s called coronavirus or covid-19 . New crown epidemic is some google translated name from 新冠right?

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lzghome Yesterday

That's right. I use a translator.

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mikegoto 1 day ago

well, the major reason is asymptomatic patient is still carrying the disease. We filtered around 200 people with no sysmptoms but tested positive in the past 10 days here in Wuhan.

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DoYouDigItNow 1 day ago

Is anyone else catching how much makeup work this has to be if they only have so few carriers?

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Born2Bbad 1 day ago

China is amazing. I wish we could be more like China

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ArbyntheChief117 Yesterday

Uh no the fuck we should not

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moongaming Yesterday

Hello CCPBich

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CharlatanNewsNetwork Yesterday

Every other submission is political..

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Yaboysodope Yesterday

China is a fucking shitshow

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ImagingSpectroscopy Yesterday

What is happening in this post?

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BenedictCrumpledick Yesterday

Chinese brigading. Literally no rational person supports the CCP but they have shills to go around spreading lies.

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DatGuyKilo Yesterday

There's nothing stopping you from getting that plane ticket comrade!

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Peralta-J Yesterday

Imagine thinking anyone should be more like a totalitarian hellhole where they're currently exterminating ethnic minorities en masse

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Rice_22 Yesterday

The US said there were "enormous evidence" that the virus came from Chinese lab. It proved to be bullshit. US said there were WMDs in Iraq, that babies were thrown out of incubators and left to die, that Saddam threw people into a woodchipper. All lies. Hell, the US even tried to have a CIA asset do a AMA on reddit. https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/e9ad4n/i_am_rushan_abbas_uyghur_activist_and_survivor_of/fajnlev/ But hey, surely this time the US mouthpieces claiming "enormous evidence" of genocide in China must be true.

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socialismnotevenonce Yesterday

>were Was\* Get out here you Chinese click farmer.

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Rice_22 Yesterday

What a useless comment. I'll use my reply to cite evidence for everything I said above instead: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/us/politics/coronavirus-pompeo-wuhan-china-lab.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein's_alleged_shredder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_propaganda#Atrocity_story https://medium.com/@rsahthion/a-reddit-ama-claiming-to-be-a-uiyghur-quickly-exposes-a-cia-asset-slandering-china-1d667c098b77

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Kamohoaliii Yesterday

Ni hao pengyou.

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VinnysMagicGrits Yesterday

Lol China bot

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Born2Bbad Yesterday

The comments in this sub are insane. Anything remotely anti ccp is down voted to hell and even the most ridiculous pro China BS is up voted. Look at my post history in this comment thread today. I posted that shit just to see what would happen. Reddit is broken

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Exotic-Attorney Yesterday

Yes.

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T_Ceezy Yesterday

I think anyone who supports freedom and individual liberties would be anti China.

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Peralta-J Yesterday

This sub is full of Chinese shills and bots. No one plays the internet game quite as well as China.

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silentlore111 Yesterday

That's why the downvote seems to always be 2 fir a while. Boycott xi Jin poo and china

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rellicotton 1 day ago

And our President still claims to have done more tests than all the other countries put together because we have done about 12-13M tests in 3.5 months! Ridiculous state of affairs in our country that is nearing 100K deaths.

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slickyslickslick Yesterday

"anyone who wants a test can get one" no one will want a test if they cost $$$ or you have to wait hours in line for it, and it's not mandatory. 500 IQ play by Trump.

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BinaryTimeLord 1 day ago

A lot of people are saying that "Oh if China can do this so can the US testing 1 mil per day is easy" and the simple fact is no, it's not. China here is testing every human in Wuhan, America isn't they are busy tracking the outbreak, China took time to collect all these test kits to do them all at once and they only had this time because the outbreak is under control, the US can't say the same.

So it's wrong to just point at them doing this and say "US should be doing 2 mil a day no problem" because China isn't, they squeezed their capacity into a shorter time for PR.

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EdgyMathWhiz 1 day ago

I don't think it's PR: if you know exactly who has and has not got the virus, isolating the positive cases would (in a perfect world) eradicate the virus. Even if you test everyone, the longer that takes, the more likely it is that there were people you tested as -ve but have since become carriers because they've since been infected by someone you hadn't tested yet. So squeezing your testing into as short a period of time as possible seems to make sense.

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thesillyoldgoat 1 day ago

It's PR, but for a different purpose than many people assume. It isn't to impress the world or the WHO in preparation for the inquiry, it's to instill confidence in their own people so that they get out and about and start spending money again. China's domestic economy is huge and consumer confidence has taken a massive hit, this testing blitz is about getting things moving again.

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GrauGeist8888 Yesterday

Correct. Wuhan has had most restrictions lifted, but people stayed home out of uncertainty. Now, they have more clarity, that there basically weren't any cases, and what few there were are now being handled. Massive internal confidence builder.

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Million2026 2 days ago

China is doing things right. If the whole world committed to doing this level of testing we could all go back to normal minus some travel restrictions.

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danielbot 1 day ago

Vietnam has been equally successful with a fraction of the testing. Vietnam used highly targeted testing, and in the early stages when they had almost no testing available they compensated with more aggressive isolation, including asymptomatic contacts.

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liupang 1 day ago

Almost all east asian countries are doing pretty well. I wonder whether it is the culture difference, or the EU/NA are facing a different mutated strain (thus more contagious) of virus?

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hal0t Yesterday

You know the anti mask/covid hoax group in EU/NA? They will get slapped back into their mother's womb by the citizens, not even the government. We don't tolerate people who put their individual above the society. At least from my perspective as Vietnamese. Not gonna work in the West due to individualism.

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Faggotitus 1 day ago

High humidity inhibits the spread of the virus because it causes the exhaled droplets to quickly grow in size and fall out of the air.

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danielbot 1 day ago

Ingrained culture of mask wearing is a huge part of it. And some idiots acting out about their freedom to harm public health would not be tolerated in those cultures, it's true. So yes, culture. Good planning. Respecting the danger. All working together to fight it. So again, culture. There is no evidence that any strain of sars-covid-19 differs significantly in transmissibility or virulence.

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slickyslickslick Yesterday

in Asian countries the vast majority will feel ashamed if they're not doing something everyone else has to do. in the West but especially in the US tons of people think they will die if they conform to doing what others are doing.

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Bob25Gslifer 2 days ago

See what happens when you prepare?

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GrauGeist8888 Yesterday

They made a plan, coordinated for overflow testing, and rolled it out in a matter of days. It cost them a couple Million USD, but it's money well spent to be able to show that Wuhan is basically COVID-free.

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BevInTheShell Yesterday

I read somewhere that the estimated cost is around 2 billion RMB (\~300M USD)

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GrauGeist8888 Yesterday

$300M for 2M tests (5:1 pooling) would be $150 per test. Is that reasonable for bulk testing? It seems high, when I see lower commercial prices that likely have profit built in, and lack bulk efficiency.

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mrkevrd 2 days ago

The data nerds must be creaming themselves.

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hybridglitch04 2 days ago

That's all most 1 million per day. See I can maths!

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