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Neeraj K. Agrawal - @NeerajKA

Square open-sourced its bitcoin cold storage system https://t.co/eCfoyJT7DL

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Matt Odell - @matt_odell

RT @arbedout: Square's BTC cold storage solution is now open source - Open Sourcing Subzero by Alok Menghrajani https://t.co/wGehF0tls0

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Marty Bent - @MartyBent

RT @arbedout: Square's BTC cold storage solution is now open source - Open Sourcing Subzero by Alok Menghrajani https://t.co/wGehF0tls0

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Naval - @naval

The crypto stack is technically more daunting than most software stacks - but because the ecosystem has a strong open source ethos, each problem only needs to be solved once. https://t.co/IY1pz6BBuX

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Bitcoin Geoff “Still The Same Kids” Tarantino - @desantis

well that was quick (is interesting) : [https://t.co/YSRgsMng2j]

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Dennis Parker⚡️ - @Xentagz

RT @alokmenghrajani: Square’s Bitcoin Cold Storage Solution is now opensource! https://t.co/IpyneBAP4d

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DarrenM - @DarrenMills

RT @lwsnbaker: Very cool. Square open-sources their cold wallet storage solution for bitcoin. Bonus: "Beancounter" to audit our wallet balances that is written in Go with the ability to track historical balances and very large amounts of transactions. https://t.co/EtdmUsOHu2

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Kevin Pham - @_Kevin_Pham

RT @alokmenghrajani: Square’s Bitcoin Cold Storage Solution is now opensource! https://t.co/IpyneBAP4d

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Eric Meltzer - @wheatpond

Awesome. And awesome name, too. https://t.co/JN19pbLekT

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lawson baker : - @lwsnbaker

Very cool. Square open-sources their cold wallet storage solution for bitcoin. Bonus: "Beancounter" to audit our wallet balances that is written in Go with the ability to track historical balances and very large amounts of transactions. https://t.co/EtdmUsOHu2

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Olaoluwa Osuntokun - @roasbeef

RT @alokmenghrajani: Square’s Bitcoin Cold Storage Solution is now opensource! https://t.co/IpyneBAP4d

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secup 11 hs ago

i confirm a drop from 1430w to 1250w. easily overclock to reach 15th on a stock 13.5th. Cool update.

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IGotThisYo 6 hs ago

How are you overclocking on this firmware?

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LiamNeeson2 11 hs ago

Anyone know what the “Low Power Mode” on the config page is for?

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nxtgencowboy Yesterday

Is this supported on NiceHash?

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seanthenry Yesterday

That state that the T9+ has been released but it is not available yet.

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Morescratch Yesterday

Works fine on my 13.5’s. Will test on 14.5’s and 12.5’s and report back... BTW I am on Antpool.

Edit: not working on some of my 14.5’s because they have a C5 board.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Is your hashrate showing on Antpool? Mine is not showing but it says my workers are active.

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Morescratch Yesterday

They are updating Antpool right now. Mine aren’t showing but they are hashing.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Ok so it’s an issue on Antpool’s end then. Mine are hashing as well but the hash rate is not showing on Antpool itself. Curious what your 13.5’s are hashing at? Mine are only 12.5-13th/s so the hashrate dropped some.

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Morescratch Yesterday

Both are hashing over ideal rates. Are you looking at the avg?

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Yeah the average.

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Morescratch Yesterday

What’s the real-time? Higher?

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

It was fluctuating around the same but nothing over 13.1th/s

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tropyc_crypto Yesterday

And this guy is prepping a multi-billion IPO ffs

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diamondcuts17765 redditor for 3 months Yesterday

"I pulled a sneaky on you" - Jihan Wu

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crypt0crook Yesterday

What are some results of this? My s9's keep saying incorrect firmware and it reverts back to whatever it was. Disappointing so far, I guess I have c5 boards? Idk. I'm trying it on older 14th/s s9s. I have some s9i's to try also but im pretty sure it said it wouldn't work for those at all currently.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

I saw one guy reporting a 10-15% reduction in power consumption but I can’t verify that because I haven’t had a chance to update mine yet. He also mentioned that he flashed an S9i and the firmware is apparently working fine but again can’t verify that’s correct at this time. Edit: he also mentioned hash rate remains the same or even improved on some of the ones he flashed with the new firmware.

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crypt0crook Yesterday

10-15% reduction in power consumption? shiiiit. i'll take it lol just gotta figure out how to get it to work. thanks.

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MaxVernon Yesterday

For me, this firmware results in 100% rejected/discarded shares.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

I haven’t tried it myself yet but I believe people were having trouble with pools like Slushpool. I’ve seen reports of it working on btc.com pool and I assume Antpool will probably work as well. Maybe try one of those to confirm if it is a pool issue.

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MaxVernon Yesterday

It certainly works with Bitmain's pools. Slushpool is working on a fix now.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Ok great that’s good to know. I prefer slushpool myself.

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MaxVernon Yesterday

Me toooooo

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bitspun Yesterday

The new firmware works great on my S9s connected to the btc.com pool. PDUs reporting power consumption drop of between 10-15%. Hashrate reported at the pool is equal or slightly higher on all updated workers.

Note I accidentally flashed an S9i as well and it appears to be working fine but it’s probably best to wait for the ‘official’ S9i and S9j LPM firmware next week.

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striderida1 Yesterday

is there a way to verify it's installed" I see a check box in the configuration that says " Low Power Mode " and it's checked off, is that the AsicBoost setting" If it is then i am getting less than i should be it seems. My S9 13.5Th\\s model is only reporting 9Th\\s and also has a lot of discarded hashses? (Accepted 65 Discarded 238 after 8 minutes of running)

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bitspun Yesterday

“File System Version” will be set to 22 October under the system page after it has been installed. Interestingly enough, the default for me was for LPM to be enabled, which I understand to mean that overt ASICBoost is on.

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striderida1 Yesterday

ok i figured that's what "AsicBoost" was..but i also heard it should not effect your hashing, but for me it clearly did.

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bitspun Yesterday

Check if your pool supports it...for example as if now Slushpool does not from what I understand. Btc.com does and Antpool from what I've heard. And yes...your hashing should not go down.

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striderida1 Yesterday

Yeah I'm on BTC.com so it should br supported. Maybe it is just wonky on the 13.5th/s model. If I uncheck low power mode I get 13th/s. Funny thing is if I use Braiins-OS I get over 13.5th/s. I'm using 110v on it but I could still hash full power on Braiins-OS

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Yeah I just tried flashing the new firmware on my 13.5th/s and I’m now getting even less hash rate at only about 12.5 th/s.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

10-15% is significant. That would be awesome.

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reddit4485 Yesterday

BTW, this is also good for segwit! Covert ASICBoost does not support segwit but overt does. If you want to see overt Segwit adoption here's a website! https://asicboost.dance/

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BTCMONSTER Yesterday

someone is being sneaky around.

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CosmicHemorroid 2 - 3 years account age. 150 - 300 comment karma. Yesterday

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9qfic5/dear_miners_we_strongly_recommend_you_dont/?st=jnkj5mjj&sh=1f88f646

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striderida1 Positive | 11290 karma | Karma CC: 5657 MIOTA: 137 Yesterday

I don't mind on slush pool, I merge mine Elastos and Bitcoin on BTC.com pool so I don't have an issue

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CosmicHemorroid Yesterday

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9qfic5/dear_miners_we_strongly_recommend_you_dont/?st=jnkj5mjj&sh=1f88f646

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jonezypls Yesterday

I'm having trouble getting Slush Pool to work after flashing the new firmware. Reverting to the older version makes everything work again. Something I set up wrong or....?

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Are you flashing on the S9 or S9i / S9j? Reading the post it looks like firmware for the S9i and S9j will be released next week.

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jonezypls Yesterday

Tried it with one S9 and one S9i.

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IGotThisYo Yesterday

Maybe try Antpool and see if it makes a difference.

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chriswheeler Yesterday

Bitmain confirmed the existence of the circuitry for ASICBoost on April 7th, 2017.

Our ASIC chips, like those of some other manufacturers, have a circuit design that supports ASICBOOST. However, the ASICBOOST method has not been used by us on the mainnet.

Source: https://blog.bitmain.com/en/regarding-recent-allegations-smear-campaigns/

They even linked the above post in today's firmware announcement that you linked to...

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chrisrico Yesterday

>However, the ASICBOOST method has not been used by us on the mainnet. I believe Bitmain's response to the ASICBoost accusation about as much as I believe Saudi Arabia's response to to Kashoggi's disappearance.

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chriswheeler 7 hs ago

Even though it has been verified by multiple third parties? Why would they lie about including it in their chip designs if they hadn't?

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chrisrico 58 mins ago

>Even though it has been verified by multiple third parties? Had what verified? By whom? What's the source for this? I'm saying that they may in fact have used covert ASICBoost on mainnet, contrary to their claims.

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chriswheeler 49 mins ago

The claim: > Our ASIC chips, like those of some other manufacturers, have a circuit design that supports ASICBOOST. Has been verified by, for example, Greg Maxwell: > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-April/013996.html > Reverse engineering of a particular mining chip has demonstrated conclusively that ASICBOOST has been implemented in hardware. (Sure, he doesn't name Bitmain, but I think it's widely accepted that is who's chip he was referring to) It's also more recently been verified by Slush/Braiins OS - https://medium.com/@braiins_systems/bitmain-antminer-s9-asicboost-capability-verified-by-braiins-13-in-energy-savings-and-planned-da67c290152c Why do you not believe it? Or have I mis-understood and you really believe Saudi Arabia's response to to Kashoggi's disappearance?

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chrisrico 45 mins ago

Yes, I absolutely believe that their chips support ASICBoost. No, I absolutely don't believe that they've never used covert ASICBoost on mainnet while mining with their own equipment. I feel like you'd have to be incredibly gullible to believe that claim.

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chriswheeler 39 mins ago

Right, there isn't any way to prove that either way. I assumed you were replying to my comment - https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9qd0zs/bitmain_released_asicboost_support_just_after/e88liar/

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chrisrico 35 mins ago

I was. I edited my comment for clarity.

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sQtWLgK Yesterday

This implies that all Bitmain patents are now open, right?

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CarpMackereles Yesterday

> This implies that all Bitmain patents are now open, right? No, it does not. I think you are trying to manipulate with your insinuations. The fact is that there is [prior art](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art) covering what is now referred to as "AsicBoost". This should be the primary and expected reason why they would state that "there isn’t and may never be a patent right over AsicBoost" (note that it does not state *anything* like "there *is* a patent right, but it's open to us now").

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sQtWLgK 9 hs ago

so you put a link on "prior art" at it is to the Wikipedia article to "prior art"? If you think that there is prior art, please provide a source on that backing your claim

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CarpMackereles 4 hs ago

It is not on me to prove this! It is on the ones claiming patent rights (be they "defensive") to prove their claim which would imply that no one ever had the common sense to apply the obvious general technique in "AsicBoost" that is about as old as block ciphers.

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sQtWLgK 2 hs ago

Well, Bitmain are clearly using the patented technique, they even call it by the same name. The instant they start using the patent, they get subject to the licence, which means that other licence subscribers are free to use any other Bitmain patents freely. It is really as automatic as that, and it can only be avoided by invalidating the Asicboost patent. So, in any case, it is up to Bitmain to prove that.

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Aruk19 Yesterday

Yes! I cannot find them here : [https://blockchaindpl.org/users](https://blockchaindpl.org/users)

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random3412398 Yesterday

Their article says: With regard to patent rights, we continue to respect third parties’ IP right and take actions accordingly. Based on legal opinions from various jurisdictions, we believe that there isn’t and may never be a patent right over AsicBoost. Thus, all miners should be entitled to make their own choice on whether to use AsicBoost technology without anybody having an exclusive right over it.

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Blazerfan503 Yesterday

The only "controversial" part was them not releasing it.

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striderida1 Positive | 11290 karma | Karma CC: 5657 MIOTA: 137 Yesterday

No it's actually the way it solves the blocks it goes against normal mining standards. Some say it's not safe to use but at this point it looks like everyone might be using it soon anyway.

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DesignerAccount Yesterday

And if you need anymore proof that Bitmain is effin their customers over, this should do it. The S9 had AB since it's launch, but you, as the customer, couldn't use it. They, in the other hand, do you think they used it???

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CatatonicMan Yesterday

It's *overt* ASICBoost, so in principle it should be obvious when they're using it.

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chrisrico Yesterday

There is also the longstanding suspicion (first voiced, I think, by [Greg Maxwell](https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-April/013996.html)) that Bitmain was making use of *covert* ASICBoost.

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joinfish Yesterday

Bitcoin is an adversarial network.
This mofo is one of the main adversaries. He's not your friend, he's no one's friend.

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sudophant Yesterday

Your post reminded me of a History of Russian Rulers podcast, Russian history from way back in the day all the way through to now, when he got to Stalin's time he talks about Stalin's various *friends* over the course of his career, and where they ended up. Definitely got the impression that Stalin at a very fundamental level didn't really understand friendship.

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joinfish Yesterday

All right! One the same note: when the Wu-Ver relationship to goes sour - the fallout should be spectacular.

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uglymelt Yesterday

I thought about exactly the same as you op.

Braiins today revealed that they verified the existence of AsicBoost-functionality in Bitmain’s S9 ASICs. For unknown (but possibly patent-related) reasons, this feature is not made available to regular users, however. The Braiins team plans to unlock this feature with BraiinsOS, which would mean that Bitmain S9 owners will be able to increase the effectiveness of their machines by more than ten percent."

Bitmain would pretty fast lose dominance on their own firmware.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/braiins-os-open-source-alternative-bitcoin-mining-firmware/

https://braiins-os.org/

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zluckdog Yesterday

previously, bitmain had a secret backdoor built into their firmware

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Bitcoin_21 redditor for 3 months Yesterday

Jihad Wu is a fucking criminal

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CryptoNoob-17 redditor for 3 months Yesterday

Jihad Who? Is that Jihan Wu's cousin, maybe his Muslim brother from another mother.

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LilUkelele Yesterday

Maybe Luke Daesh jr.'s? That's the very religious, pope-hating, bearded one wearing a trophy or faux USAF hat or something.

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earringstud Yesterday

How long have you guys been running this on your machines? Now you decide to make it public?

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ABitcoinAllBot Yesterday

Here is the link to the original comment thread. Or you can comment here to start a discussion. Author: archetyp91

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PatrickBitmain 19 mins ago

Money.

Laundered.

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springwhitewater 4 hs ago

There were proposals for one district to be r/biz for “a place where NEETS can get together and discuss how much money they are losing,” but that didn’t pass.

iconic

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SnoweCat7 2 hs ago

No one wants to buy virtual land next to a slum full of misanthropes.

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springwhitewater 1 h ago

you dang virtual misanthropes! get off my virtual lawn! *waves virtual shotgun*

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Judicium22 4 hs ago

One of the pictures is literally a screengrab from the opening titles of the show 'Silicon Valley' and the caption is: "Crypto Valley planned for Decentraland."

This can't be real.

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SixLegsGood 4 hs ago

How can anyone think buying virtual land is an investment? There's infinite amounts of the stuff!

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JitGoinHam 2 hs ago

Location, location, location. Do you want to live in Manhattan#000001 or Manhattan#339201?

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caffeine93 5 hs ago

So says an investor in what currently looks like just dots, dots that a whale is apparently scooping up left and centre. Matty says: “He continues to accumulate MANA every single day. If you look at his wallet you will notice that every day he will accumulate anywhere between 300,000 to 1 million MANA every day… He has also come in and purchased every land under 15,000 MANA.”

so the ownership in decentraland is now becoming centralized in the hands of one single person...sounds familiar to the distribution of crypto in general

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Cthulhooo 4 hs ago

If he accumulates 10 billion MANA he will become level 100 wizard and rule the world with unlimited power.

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Harmless_Drone 6 hs ago

So basically, second life. But nothing is actually done, except the land flipping part which lets a bunch of conmen scam people via fraudulent land sales.

For what it's worth, I have some prime Florida swampland that I need to get rid of. Any purchasers?

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rockybeethoven 6 hs ago

Would you swap it for a bridge in Brooklyn?

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