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o_Oz 4 months ago

Nope, Firefox it is folks.

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dc91 4 months ago

One thing I noticed is that Firefox and Chrome are trying to head in a direction that Brave is already in.

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o_Oz 4 months ago

I just trust Firefox more honestly. I'm not saying Brave is a bad browser, it certainly is preferable to Chrome.

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dc91 4 months ago

But Brave blocks all the scripts and trackers...If we are talking about trust, how does it fail you there?

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myfeetsmellallday 4 months ago

I am beyond confident a user will write 5 paragraphs explaining why Brave is not a great option. Here is my abridged version:

Brave doesn’t beat a hardened Firefox. Brave relies on Chromium. Brave has issues blocking scripts and trackers. Brave takes control away from the user. And BAT is concerning, we don’t want a compromise with ad companies, we want them gone.

On a positive note, it isn’t a bad option for users new to the privacy world wanting something better than most browsers out of the box.

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WobblyGobbledygook 4 months ago

Where's the best rundown of everything to do to harden Firefox, both desktop & mobile? I've got a lot of add-ons already, but I need to close holes.

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dc91 4 months ago

See, I think on the other hand a user will write 10 paragraphs on why it is a great option :) I know it's not great right now, but remember version 1.0 (mainstream version) is coming this fall and has potential to do wonderful things.

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cwood74 4 months ago

Once 1.0 comes out it should be able to compete with Firefox in terms of hardening.

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redyar Karma CC: 1657 6 months ago

I wont switch my browser.

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DaBigDingle Redditor for 8 months. 6 months ago

No one is paying you to use their browser. BAT is claiming to start paying to view ads. That's a huge difference.

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DaBigDingle Redditor for 8 months. 6 months ago

> Its not a claim How are you even arguing this? Do you not understand meaning of English words? A claim is something that has yet to be proven. Since AFAIK, no one has gotten paid yet, it's still a claim regardless of how much of a certainty you think it is. >So in a sense yes users will be paid to use the browser. You're changing the meaning of words. You are paid to view ads, not use the browser. If you don't view ads and use the browser you won't get paid. That's the distinction.

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Electrolore Redditor for 4 months. 6 months ago

I used it now for 4 weeks on my phone where it works very well, only have problems with the page of my online broker so far. But Desktop version was crap, hope this gets better! And looking forward to the rewards programm, hope its coming soon!

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Bloodipwn 4 - 5 years account age. 250 - 500 comment karma. 6 months ago

Using the desktop version right now. Never had bugs using it.

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LebJR1991 Positive | Karma CC: 551 LTC: 912 6 months ago

me neither

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SonOfCrypto Redditor for 8 months. 6 months ago

"Brave blocks ads and trackers by default so you browse faster and safer. You can add ad blocking extensions to your existing browser, but it’s complicated"

It's complicated? An ape could install adblock plus in a blink...

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Bananenschreck 3 - 4 years account age. 200 - 400 comment karma. 6 months ago

*ublock origin you're welcome

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arkoargroup Redditor for 3 months. 6 months ago

Brave absolutely sucks for developers sadly :( i use it on my phone, but its not ready for desktop use yet if you need any kind of serious browser capabilities.

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the1iplay Redditor for 6 months. 6 months ago

The mighty Google Empire will crush it.

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decentralizedusernam Crypto God | CC: 161 QC 6 months ago

Would love to, as soon as they fix the fact that every time you even hint that you are beginning to scroll up, the address bar pops up like WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO!?

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tektronic22 Karma CC: 189 6 months ago

how does it do with streaming video, performance wise? Can it stream 4k?

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Fhelans Crypto Nerd | CC: 22 QC 6 months ago

No thanks, my attention is worth more than BAT are willing to pay per ad, and Brave is just another means to monetize your viewing habits. They claim to have worked on Brave for 4 years, and what have they accomplished? They use a preexisting platform and added an adblocker that let's through adverts they list lol.

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Dat_is_wat_zij_zei Crypto God | CC: 66 QC | XMR: 26 QC | NANO: 23 QC 6 months ago

No one knows how much BAT will be paid per ad/time.

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thedosequisman Crypto Nerd 6 months ago

I'm sorry and ow much is Chrome paying you for stealing all of your information? Why are you willingly just giving them your information for free? Even if you use something to protect yourself, that's great, but the steps you took to find and install that stuff may be too big of a hurdle for the average person, so Brave could help take back our privacy with an easier entry point for anyone. In addition, BAT is getting TOR tabs incredibly soon

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DaBigDingle Redditor for 8 months. 6 months ago

> I'm sorry and ow much is Chrome paying you for stealing all of your information? With Chrome and Google in general what you get in return is a much more customized and tailored user experience. I've yet to find a search engine or something like Google Home that acts as a personal assistant. >BAT is getting TOR tabs incredibly soon Don't know why this bothered me, but it's Tor, not TOR

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Fhelans Crypto Nerd | CC: 22 QC 6 months ago

You really think the pennys BAT will pay you is worth giving them your data? I can use extentions to hide my indenity / data and remove Adverts completely, why does anyone even need Brave. I value my time/attention more valuable than that.

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

They never have your data, they have repeatedly said that it never leaves your device. User privacy and data control is their number one priority, re\-monetizing web content is secondary.

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thedosequisman Crypto Nerd 6 months ago

For you to be able to hide that stuff that's great and I highly support it. However, for the average person it would be difficult for them to be aware of everything you have to do to download enough extensions just to make it as good for privacy as Brave. I really don't understand what you mean by giving all of your information to Brave, it looks like they really don't collect much data at all, if any at all. Brave would be like a stock car that gets done 80% of what you need. You can take the stock car chrome, but you have to install a lot of updates for it to improve ; updates which the average person may not have heard of in the first place, or may be too complicated for a large % of the population

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Fhelans Crypto Nerd | CC: 22 QC 6 months ago

Downloading an extension is less time consuming and difficult than switching to an entirely new browser for the average user. Brave still collects your browsing information in order to provide you with targeted adverts, which is likely also shared with advertisers.

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thedosequisman Crypto Nerd 6 months ago

DYOR one more user won't be missed

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akae12 6 months ago

Needs more extensions and support in other OS (some functionalities don't work using Linux ie. mouse back/forward buttons and that is the deal breaker for me).

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

The devs are constantly making improvements so I'd check back in 3\-6 months

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phanofcrypto Crypto God | NANO: 182 QC | CC: 34 QC 6 months ago

Watch the David Hay review of BAT token and the Brave browser.

I’ll sit out on this one.

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the_chilean Crypto Expert | CC: 55 QC 6 months ago

maybe it's better tham chrome, in fact i have it installed.. but cannot live without the extensions!!

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Fhelans Crypto Nerd | CC: 22 QC 6 months ago

It's really not. Chrome + a few extensions blows brave out the water.

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mendel3 Crypto Expert 6 months ago

Extension support is coming soon

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the_chilean Crypto Expert | CC: 55 QC 6 months ago

hope it replaces chrome.. google mines so much data out of us

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sickemsideways Karma CC: 583 Tronix: -12 6 months ago

This thread is all FUD...

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y0um3b3dn0w 15729 karma | Karma CC: 2434 6 months ago

The truth is not FUD. If its FUD then disprove it.

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DrAlfonsSchittler Crypto Expert | ARK: 28 QC | CC: 20 QC 6 months ago

I would, but I love Vivaldi Browser so much, it would feel like cheating.

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mizzzikey 6 months ago

It was too buggy for me

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DeepFriedOprah Bounty0x 6 months ago

Don’t know why ur downvoted. Brave is super buggy right now. Many sites won’t even load due to compatibility issues with lack of support for various development kits that web devs use. It’s glitchy with very few extensions and plugins and it crashes on occasion. There may be a day when Brave is a true competitor but it is very far away from that day as of now.

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JohnnyBGrr Crypto God | CC: 33 QC 6 months ago

Bagholders.

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riverflop 33340 karma | Karma CC: 30773 BTC: 3040 6 months ago

98 Seconds to open time.com, really? Browsing on a Pentium 1 @ 14.4k?

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qqAzo Crypto God | CC: 77 QC | ETH: 36 QC 6 months ago

Considering the amount of errors pulled on the Time.com this is actually true on the Chrome brower. However that is just due to very very very poor coding - Brave replaces this. Just tested, took me 110K MS. For a semi complete load of the page it takes 5,6s

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go_crypto_go Redditor for 10 months. 6 months ago

Brave for Android is awesome but Brave for desktop is a steaming pile of shit. Lot's of bugs.. Not usable as your main browser currently.

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nopantstank 6 months ago

agreed, its my main mobile browser but i do not use it on my desktop.

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pikabu01 Redditor for 8 months. 6 months ago

It's steadily getting better, a few month ago it was shit, now it's quite usable.

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Dat_is_wat_zij_zei Crypto God | CC: 66 QC | XMR: 26 QC | NANO: 23 QC 6 months ago

That stat is allegedly for Chrome, not Brave.

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Trevvv 7 - 8 years account age. 400 - 800 comment karma. 6 months ago

UI isn’t the only thing that needs to load. There are plenty of http requests/scripts that will continue to load after your page has rendered correctly. All those trackers for example. I’m no expert but that is what my best guess is.

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iimblack Student 6 months ago

whoosh man

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SuperNewk Crypto God | CC: 57 QC 6 months ago

It sucks chrome > brave

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

Maybe if you like slow memory hogs that siphon all your data

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SuperNewk Crypto God | CC: 57 QC 6 months ago

Who cares it works. No one likes the privacy b.s.

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

False consensus bias I don't care about privacy =/= no one cares about privacy

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SeducerProgrammer Crypto God | Trolls CC | EOS: 175 QC | XLM: 25 QC 6 months ago

Help me

How do I get paid in BAT for viewing ads?

What if I create a bot to browse & view those ads, will my bot get paid too?

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LebJR1991 Positive | Karma CC: 551 LTC: 912 6 months ago

you can get paid per view in BAT with regiter as a publisher

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HeartTrob Redditor for 3 months. 6 months ago

wow good point in mentioning the bots! I haven't seen anyone mention that and that would be a huge concern. Espeially in this era, these script writers find a way for everything.

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Explodicle Crypto God | BTC: 55 QC | CC: 44 QC 6 months ago

It's "pay to surf", was a thing in the 90's.

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Hodlington Redditor for 3 months. 6 months ago

> How do I get paid in BAT for viewing ads? No BAT for browsing with ads, no thanks.

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Dat_is_wat_zij_zei Crypto God | CC: 66 QC | XMR: 26 QC | NANO: 23 QC 6 months ago

Brave blocks all ads natively. You'd have to manually toggle that you want to see ads for them to show up.

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mendel3 Crypto Expert 6 months ago

You can't get paid in BAT yet, although the team is working hard on it. You will only be shown a certain amount of ads, and bots will be detected

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SeducerProgrammer Crypto God | Trolls CC | EOS: 175 QC | XLM: 25 QC 6 months ago

Thanks, but how can BOT(s) be detected? As far as I know the only way to detect bots is that you have to click or enter words as instructions but it will reduce UX massively.

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Dat_is_wat_zij_zei Crypto God | CC: 66 QC | XMR: 26 QC | NANO: 23 QC 6 months ago

You will have to interact with the ad in some way.

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mendel3 Crypto Expert 6 months ago

If somebody is requesting ads from the same websites every 5 seconds, that will obviously look suspicious

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Fhelans Crypto Nerd | CC: 22 QC 6 months ago

You could connect through a different ip every 5 seconds.

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Raja_Rancho Crypto God | BTC: 51 QC | CC: 45 QC 6 months ago

Did you just solve the content-advertising crisis?

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OverkillerSRB Crypto God | XMR: 129 QC | CC: 88 QC | BTC: 26 QC 6 months ago

Ungoogled Chromium with no sync, webrtc and DRM compatibility + uBlock origin, Decentraleyes, Canvas defender and Https everywhere is far better.

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eagenda 6 months ago

Only twenty hoops to jump through. This will catch on, no doubt.

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iuli123 Crypto God | CC: 169 QC 6 months ago

come again?

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blog_ofsite Analyst 6 months ago

This is what I use, but add 3 more adblocker and popup blockers.

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Mr0ldy Crypto God | CC: 251 QC | XMR: 39 QC 6 months ago

That is exactly what I use only with Firefox, Pale moon and Iridium instead of Chromium. Iridium is Chromium with additional tracking features removed, since Chromium still has google tracking built in to it. The only problem with Iridium is that it isn't updated as frequently. Anyway I still don't trust Chromium one bit. Another really cool browser with no tracking and open sourse is Pale Moon, it's based on the oldschool Firefox design and code and has the most important extensions available for it. I also prefer CanvasBlocker before Canvas defender (https://github.com/kkapsner/CanvasBlocker) but that might only be available for Firefox.

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OverkillerSRB Crypto God | XMR: 129 QC | CC: 88 QC | BTC: 26 QC 6 months ago

I switched to ungoogled-chromium actually, it's available to install via chocolatey.

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Mr0ldy Crypto God | CC: 251 QC | XMR: 39 QC 6 months ago

Cool, I'm going to check that out!

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AncientLineage Crypto God | CC: 114 QC 6 months ago

Jesus what language is this? English? Is this what I should be using instead of chrome lol?

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HubbaMaBubba 6 months ago

They're extensions.

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alexandernacho New to Crypto 6 months ago

Really the way to go for mass adoptation..

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Maskimus 6 months ago

Installing an extension is easier than switching to entirely new browser for new users.

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getsqt Crypto God | CC: 128 QC | PIVX: 34 QC 6 months ago

What about on mobile? Specifically iOS?

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Commonboiiii878 Redditor for 11 months. 6 months ago

Last time I checked ublock origin, privacy badger, and https everywhere was recommended. Is your current setup superior?

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gandhi_theft Crypto Expert | CC: 26 QC 6 months ago

Privacy Badger seems to do the canvas protection

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SeducerProgrammer Crypto God | Trolls CC | EOS: 175 QC | XLM: 25 QC 6 months ago

I used AdGuard DNS & a combo of uBlock Origin + AdGuard plugin (free). I can see the result is much better than Brave

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Sc4bbers Redditor for 5 months. 6 months ago

Brave is a project worth supporting.

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brushtail_possum Crypto God | CC: 37 QC 6 months ago

I am using almost the same setup, didn't know about Canvas defender. Thanks for the tip.

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DolphinGiraffe Altcoiner 6 months ago

Why block canvas?

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OverkillerSRB Crypto God | XMR: 129 QC | CC: 88 QC | BTC: 26 QC 6 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_fingerprinting

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DolphinGiraffe Altcoiner 6 months ago

Thanks!

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MattOmatic50 6 months ago

Maybe when BAT matures, but for now, I see no point.

Your browser of choice is likely something you've invested time with, there's no ways I'd ever jump ship to a browser with such low usage stats, I spend most of my time on a computer within a browser!

I need my plugins / extensions - brave is going to struggle to gain any credence.

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Pantzzzzless Crypto Expert | CC: 34 QC 6 months ago

I use it when I need to use Metamask. In that aspect it works great.

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mendel3 Crypto Expert 6 months ago

Plugins and extention support is coming in the coming months, it is already possible if you edit the Brave folder

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Iruwen Crypto God | CC: 106 QC | BTC: 91 QC | ETH: 69 QC 6 months ago

Mobile Brave is already better than Chrome and Firefox.

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go_crypto_go Redditor for 10 months. 6 months ago

This is true.. I've been using brave for Android as my main browser for the last 6-8 months. It's awesome at blocking content. Better than Chrome security wise.

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PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE 129787 karma | Karma CC: 646 6 months ago

It is not

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jl2l Crypto God | CC: 24 QC 6 months ago

Fake news it definitely is. There's no built-in ad blocker Chrome mobile

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

It absolutely is. I use both, and while I can't disagree that desktop has issues, mobile is fucking blazing fast.

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PM_ME_CUTE_SM1LE 129787 karma | Karma CC: 646 6 months ago

Brave is a good mobile browser but it competes with Chrome, safari and firefox which are all insanely polished in iOS Brave is not polished enough so it is not as good

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

I'll give you that it does lack polish, it's also only 2 years old and had a skeleton dev team its first year or so. Give them time, it will continue to improve.

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SweetNutzJohnson Crypto Expert | BTC: 17 QC 6 months ago

Firefox Focus 👍

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Haramburglar Altcoiner 6 months ago

I only hear bad things about the mobile Brave browser

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Dong_Key_Hoe_Tay New to Crypto 6 months ago

No you don't.

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Haramburglar Altcoiner 6 months ago

oh, okay, thanks, that fixed it

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MattOmatic50 6 months ago

it's chrome under the hood - chromium. So, no, it's not better than chrome, because it effectively is chrome. Firefox - meh, many years ago, my browser of choice, but under heavy usage, it's slow.

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redeuxx Crypto Nerd 6 months ago

The same engine doesn't make it the same especially in open source. The thing they have in common is Chromium, the open source project. If your want a modern light browser, you might as well use Edge. Chrome effectively uses the most resources especially over Firefox Quantum. Chrome resource usage is a running joke at /r/pcmasterrace.

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gandhi_theft Crypto Expert | CC: 26 QC 6 months ago

People put resources in their computers to be used, not left "free"

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

Until your web browser hogs 90 percent of available memory

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gandhi_theft Crypto Expert | CC: 26 QC 6 months ago

Is that actually happening for, like, anyone at all? If you're the kind of person to have 200 tabs open and still expect a good responsive experience from your browser you need more RAM.

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

yes, because casual pc users with low to mid range pcs are going to crack open their cases and add ram themselves, or go buy an entirely new pc because their browser sucks.

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gandhi_theft Crypto Expert | CC: 26 QC 6 months ago

If you are a power user with that many tabs open you shouldn't have a "low to mid range pc". Specs matter otherwise we'd all still be on Pentium 1.

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

You're not listening. All it takes is regular use on a lower end pc for vanilla chrome to bog shit down. its backwards logic to think that you should upgrade your hardware instead of your software first.

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Iruwen Crypto God | CC: 106 QC | BTC: 91 QC | ETH: 69 QC 6 months ago

It effectively is based on Chromium, like many others.

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cryptodirky New to Crypto | BTC critic. | CC critic. 6 months ago

Pass.

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Illnevertell369 Karma CC: 969 6 months ago

Super pass

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LebJR1991 Positive | Karma CC: 551 LTC: 912 6 months ago

why not? its a really good browser i’m impressed.

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wokad 3 - 4 years account age. 100 - 200 comment karma. 6 months ago

chrome + ublock is 10x better than brave brave is just another chromium browser with different skin. first of all, brave refuse to block google ads. you cant call yourself an adblock browser if you refuse to block google ads on google search results. there is no compromise second of all, brave has really bad displaying issue with google spreadsheets. try to put links on your google spreadsheet and open it with brave. you will see what i mean

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JulesWinnfielddd Meat Popsicle 6 months ago

This is an outright lie, brave blocks ALL ads and trackers by default

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vimidia 7 months ago

Have been using Brave for a month now and can say that it is a lot faster and reliable compared to firefox, chrome, explorer. Plus just playing around with the Bat token wallet.

Works on all platforms plus android phones and blicks a lot a ad content. I see this browser becoming most used in tbe next few years. Worth downloading.

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BTCkoning 3 hs ago

Funny how bitcoin is like a wealth transfer machine. While countries get into problems with the west their cheap electricity because a model to mine bitcoin and regain some strength!

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crypto_kang 3 hs ago

Lots of dumb political crap in here.

But let's get real. Iran government sucks but that's a sad result of western governments directly interfering back since WW1 times. So you can understand why it's so defensive, especially considering how their neighbor got knocked over recently and destabilized, and also how the West is also closely allied with their number 1 arch enemy in the region Saudi Arabia. (Who are the real assholes that blew up the World Trade Center).

But let's not put that on the people of Iran who are stuck in the middle of these ridiculous power games, and ironically are very friendly towards the West and natural allies if anyone would ever wake the f up and realize it.

However, anyone from the West considering moving to Iran to setup shop, is a pretty terrible idea.

1. The West is not going to like you setting up anything involving freakin cryptography
1. The Iranian government is going to feel free to use you as a pawn against your own government and seize your assets at any time

Really if you're from some place like Russia, China, or some neutral country, this could work but pretty dumb idea for anyone else !

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Bitcoin_21 redditor for 3 months 3 hs ago

people of r/bitcoin: this is not about religion. this is about bitcoin. Iran is a great country, and US of course (except Trump) ;-)

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NonnoBomba 3 hs ago

Freedom-loving buttminers are mostly Chinese companies. I see your point but the whole "freedom" theme has been conveniently put aside long before this new development.

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walloon5 5 hs ago

Oh hilarious get the poocorn 💩

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unbounded_recusion 6 hs ago

But I thought that butts are driving the adoption of clean energy! Are you telling me that they’d actually prefer to use whatever is cheapest and ignore the long term consequences.

Let me go find my pearls so that I may clutch them.

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siconik 7 hs ago

Of course, instead of building actual enduring industry countries should cater to fly-by-night conman wasting energy who will incidentally leave you with unpaid bills next time their shitcoin du jour tanks.

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SomeThinkingGuy 6 hs ago

Ahaha, by now electricity companies should know that "miners" are NOT credit worthy! :)

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d3vrandom 7 hs ago

This was bound to happen. Mining should be done where power is cheapest.

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archer_Chef 2 hs ago

What an EMORMOUS waste of power, oil and neglect for the environment. Idiot.

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tedprice 39 mins ago

Compared to...........? And is EMORMOUS a spelling mistake or some new hip HODL-word that I need to add to the ole lexicon?  

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BTCkoning 2 hs ago

Those miners can certainly push out everyone else is in desperate times.

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NovaLegion 7 hs ago

living > Cheap mining

yeah I value my head

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LostPhotograph redditor for 4 weeks 2 hs ago

Take your islamophobic bullshit and go over to T_D. Be with your kind.

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NovaLegion 2 hs ago

How are facts bullshit? also It's not irrational to fear a religion in which they teach to kill those who don't believe like them. Get YOUR bullshit away from me.

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LostPhotograph redditor for 4 weeks 2 hs ago

It's irrational because the religion of Islam doesn't at all teach its followers to kill those who don't believe in Islam. Had that been the case, there are some 1.67 billion Muslims. I'm sure that many could have killed several hundred million and would continue to do so now. Islam teaches Muslims to fight those who oppress Muslims. You don't even have facts. All you have is an irrational fear of Islam and all thing Muslims. You need to stop being such a degenerate. Muslims and Islam are here to stay. Get over it.  Besides this thread is about Iran. You said you like living better than losing your heads suggesting that you'd lose your head in Iran. Iran has 80+ millions of people. How many of them lost their head over the last few years? Simply for living in Iran? Zero. Did some terrorists commit some terrorist acts? Sure. But that's happening everywhere. Did Iranian government execute people for crimes, sure? So has most other countries. You seem to be an American Degenerate. America has killed lots of people these past few months. Execution and bombing. I don't see you worrying about losing your head in America. So you are an Islamophobe. Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit.

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JamesCMarshall 1 h ago

Go back to your cave and keep fucking goats dude

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LostPhotograph redditor for 4 weeks 1 h ago

I'll stay where the fuck I want. You don't have an iota of say in this. Allahu Akbar. Boo. Hahahbababanan

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NovaLegion 2 hs ago

You are speaking a lot of shit for being in crusading distance

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coinminingrig redditor for 7 weeks 4 hs ago

Just don’t act like a dick and you can keep your head.

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rockkth 8 hs ago

The iranian shills are out in force. Fuck iran and every islamist country govern by religious freaks. Ass backwards idiots.

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Bitcoin_21 redditor for 3 months 3 hs ago

a real cosmopolite

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jaumenuez 4 hs ago

Fuck people like you that intentionally mix people and governments.

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mjh808 7 hs ago

What are you, a fucking Israeli shill? 

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naturecollision 3 hs ago

..or a christian annoyed by zionist geopolitics ;)

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d3vrandom 7 hs ago

look up where the word algorithm comes from

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rockkth 7 hs ago

Babylonians used mathematics way before arabs. Egyptians 30 000 years before arabs. Islam conquered arabs and made them stall and stop every innovation for 1300 years. All the innovations in the last 1500 years came from westerners. Islam is cancer. Arabs should get free of it already and join us. Religion has no place in government. Separation of church and state is the only way for a modern society. Remember the dark ages at us, westerners. We got free of it thanks to separation of church and state. Arabs never got it. Enlightenment.

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d3vrandom 7 hs ago

If you say so mate. Even your enlightenment was due to arab philosphers. Even the numeral system you use is called arabic numerals because the well traveled arabs brought it to you. Oh and iran is not arab btw. like i said look up the etymology of the word algorithm.

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rockkth 7 hs ago

Ha? Arabs did not do anything in 1600. What are u talking about? Islam conquered most arabs in 700 and music, mathematics, science was forbidden. Muslim hordes attacked europe for 1000 years. Arabs had nothing to do with the enlightenment, muslims are still against separation of church and state, that s why they are lead by their religious leaders in the state and have sharia as state law. U just harm arabs by siding with islam and their countries being led by religious oppressors.

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Sage1970 5 hs ago

True Arabs should get rid of Islam, as should every nation get rid of every religion, but to discount the contribution of a civilization makes no sense and serves no purpose. Counter these facts if you can: 1- We still use Arabic numerals. 2- Half of the stars that are named have Arabic names. 3- Algorithm was discovered by a Muslim. 4- Algebra was discovered by an Arab. 5- Arabs discover the 0. There's more but I'll stop here. You're entitled to your opinions but... Islam started as a violent radical movement but at some point Arabs/Muslims got too rich and too cultured (as a result of contact with other civilizations) that they enjoyed reading more than fighting. Sadly that lasted for only 300 years. 

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rockkth 5 hs ago

No one is discounting anything, but to defend their government today means to encourage their people s enslavement by their religious zealots who held them back for 1000 years and are holding them back today. All the stuff you wrote happend BEFORE ISLAM enslaved the arabs.

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Sage1970 5 hs ago

Incorrect. It happened between 800-1100, about 150 years after Islam enslaved Arabs and others. Anyways, let's remember that this is r/Bitcoin and end this unproductive discussion about history and politics.

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PatsStash 7 hs ago

Please please do some research before throwing untrue comments around.

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GA_Thrawn 4 hs ago

Maybe you should do your research. Reddit has been infiltrated by pro-iran influence for quite awhile now. The most recent Reddit security post was about how they caught and banned a bunch of them but think there's WAY more still flying under the radar. Reddit rarely announces their vulnerabilities like that so the fact they came to the community for help shows the issue got so out of control they needed extra help bringing all the accounts to their attention And funny enough, most of the accounts they did catch posted heavily to /r/politics

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SolidFaiz 8 hs ago

Ever occurred that the ass backwards nonsense started with dick forwarded *holes from the west?

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computergroove 8 hs ago

Well if you read the Quran and do a simple subtraction problem ~ quaran written in 609 ad and the discovery of the americas in 1492 you'll get an 883 year difference before the west was even a thing and the quaran talks about world conquest through all kinds of deception and violence. Im sure i wont change your mind though. Propoganda is too dificult to battle with logic.

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SolidFaiz 7 hs ago

I don’t not a story book to separate right from wrong. What I’m implying is that the problems all have a source and that were all guilty for the circumstances today. Your retarded comments do not help with fixing the issue, it separates us further.

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hashabc1123 redditor for 3 months 8 hs ago

The bible ain't much different. You're comparing an apple to a stick. Logic

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WhiskeyTango311 7 hs ago

The Bible never says to kill anyone. Just putting that out there.

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Voxbury 5 hs ago

You've not ever read the book, have you? Deut. chapters 13 and 17 are easy passages to point to for biblical claims of "kill the infidel." It stops being talk in Numbers 31 where the Israelites are told to kill Midianites for allegedly tempting them with the worship of other gods. This is but a specific example for killing infidels. "Crimes" the bible also demands the death penalty for include being a victim of rape, gay sex, and adultery among other ridiculous offenses. Sit down and have a read.

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hashabc1123 redditor for 3 months 7 hs ago

Where in the Quran does it say it's ok to kill? You haven't put anything out there. Quick! Google!

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WhiskeyTango311 6 hs ago

“Kill them [unbelievers] wherever you find them… And fight them until there is no more unbelief and worship is for Allah alone” (Quran 2:191-193). “Strike off their heads and strike from them every fingertip” (Quran 8:12). “Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties; in exchange for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they slay and are slain” (Quran 9:111). “Truly Allah loves those who fight in His cause in battle array…” (Quran 61:4) “The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah” (Sahih Muslim 1:33)

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hashabc1123 redditor for 3 months 4 hs ago

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs: (5:32) (For that) because Cain wrongfully killed Abel (cause We decreed for the Children of Israel) in the Torah (that whosoever killeth a human being for other than man slaughter) i.e. premeditatedly (or corruption in the earth) or because of idolatry, (it shall be as if be had killed all mankind) Hell will be decreed for him for premeditatedly and wrongfully killing a human being, as though he killed all mankind, (and whoso saveth the life of one) whoever abstains from killing a person, (it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind) Paradise will be decreed for him for sparing one soul, as though he spared the lives of all mankind.

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hashabc1123 redditor for 3 months 5 hs ago

Now let's be real. People have killed in the name of Jesus. Catholics have waged holy wars.

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NonEuclidFlatEarth redditor for 3 months 7 hs ago

Are you implying that Islam isn't a peaceful religion!?!?! **I'LL KILL YOU FOR THIS DISRESPECT!** ~ Radical Islamist, probably

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R_u_having_fun_yet 7 hs ago

Remember the crusades? Just saying

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computergroove 5 hs ago

Im curious about where everyone is getting the idea that the crusades was unprovoked lately. Steven crowser did a great piece on the crusades if the cucks at youtube havent removed it yet.

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NonEuclidFlatEarth redditor for 3 months 7 hs ago

No, because they happened nearly a thousand years ago. I wasn't alive then. But I was alive over the last decade, where Islamic radicals have killed tens of thousands of people. Do you remember that?

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romjpn 7 hs ago

Too bad they got weapons from the US during the cold war isn't it ?

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20171245 6 hs ago

I don't think they were giving them trucks back in the cold war

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NonEuclidFlatEarth redditor for 3 months 6 hs ago

Yeah, the US should have known they were evil. Shame on the US for believing in their lies.

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Crypto_To_The_Core 9 hs ago

Iran has vast natural gas resources and thus the electricity cost can be as low as 0.04 yuan [$0.006] per kilowatt-hour.

Why waste your country's natural gas for crypto ???

Much better things you can be doing with that cheap power. Attract / build industries that require cheap power and actually employ people and produce something useful ? Electric vehicles ? Sell it to neighboring countries so they don't need to build coal, nuclear power stations ?

What happens when the natural gas runs out ? What happens when the crypto miners flood in and drive the power up for everyone else ?

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bobbyby 9 hs ago

yes, you can alway do aluminum smelting if you have too much energy

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Tyjj889 9 hs ago

Lmfaoooo, well i guess if you want to risk it

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naturecollision 3 hs ago

risk what, getting bombed?

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BlowDaTrumpet 10 hs ago

>Nima Dehqan, a blockchain researcher at a Tehran-based crypto startup Areatak, told CoinDesk that the firm has been meeting with foreign investors that are looking to attempt just that by mining in Iran.

>“We have had investors visiting our farms from Spain, Ukraine, Armenia, France,” he said.

There are sanctions in place against foreign investors pumping money into Iran.

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bkorsedal 4 hs ago

Cause legality is a big issue with butters....

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JeanneDOrc 7 hs ago

Be your own Sabrina Meng!

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igadjeed 10 hs ago

Bitcoin mining is, in effect, a kind of energy arbitrage. Miners make their money when the cost of producing coins – currently 12.5 bitcoins per transaction block, plus any fees they’ve accrued – is lower than the operation of the mine itself, including electricity

It has been a while since I've read anything so obviously wrong
Wolfie Zhao knows nothing about Bitcoin

Aside from this stupidity, the whole idea of mining Bitcoin in Iran is ludicrous

Start with Iran itself, one of the most tyrannical regimes in the world. Even worse, it is a theocracy
Mine a few bitcoins, some insignificant priest declares a fatwah on Bitcoin, say good-bye to your bitcoins, your miners, and your freedom
There are sanctions by some western countries against Iran. The CFO of Huawei was recently arrested in Canada, at the request of the USA who want to extradite her for Huawei allegedly breaking sanctions against Iran, faces 20 years in a USA prison

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d3vrandom 7 hs ago

wow this is just so ignorant. you know nothing about iran. it is a progressive country.

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igadjeed 7 hs ago

It would be progressive if not for being ruled by religion Looking forward to that day

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d3vrandom 7 hs ago

well regardless of how you feel about the country they will get nukes and they will invest in mining bitcoin so there!

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hisroyalnastiness 3 hs ago

With their enemies much more likely to end up a glass parking lot than all that

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20171245 6 hs ago

Haha suck it!

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PatsStash 7 hs ago

The sanctions are because of fear and the US trying to curb growth of other super powers . The US have no respect for any other country all they want is the Power over all. Iran and China help country’s to develop not blow them up if they disagree with a deal , why do the US want change in Iran’s leadership? Because they have 60% of the worlds oil!!! Think about it

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20171245 6 hs ago

You've been a Redditor for 9 months and have just decided to post in this one thread, starting an hour ago. Goodbye shill.

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swaggyrabbit redditor for 3 weeks 9 hs ago

Oh wow. I like this universe you're creating. Let's collaborate on this one.. That country has such a perfect enforcement of their laws that just by declaring "**fatwah**" automatically... every man, woman and child in Iran would follow *every* s*i*n*g*l*e* la*w* without question and **absolutely** not pay off local officials to look the other way while mining operations continue? If our orange president just declared *~~falafel~~* fatwah on brown people he wouldn't have to put up a wall, but unfortunately stable genius doesn't know magical incantations. The only magical incantation DJT knows is **Riddikulus** sanktion leviosa, by why sanctions are imposed on a country and once this happens, life in that country will cease to be worth living. No more SWIFT banking, no more Coca Cola, no more NFL sundays and more importantly no btc can now move in and out of the country. The spell is super effective!

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igadjeed 8 hs ago

Good points As with all tyrannies, China and USA included, enforcement is selective, and conducted for the PR value So, if I was a rich man in Iran, able to pay the right bribes, and able to import some new Antminers, and mine on 1 cent electricity, it would be a great way to export my wealth from Iran

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swaggyrabbit redditor for 3 weeks 7 hs ago

This is happening everywhere. Any country that "bans" crypto is in essence just promoting mining operations to bribe local officials. Local officials make peanuts in these countries, and they will take the money and look the other way. All of btc's incentives are right.

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poopydust redditor for 3 months 8 hs ago

nothing wrong with falafel

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kinda-like-ya redditor for 3 months 9 hs ago

That would be an incentive to piss USA. Its revolutionary to supply not weapons but mining hardware

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Parti_zanu 10 hs ago

it would be so awesome to have the great financial revolution powered by Chinese hardware and cheap Iranian electricity.

If they'll make a move, it will be a riot.

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ABitcoinAllBot 11 hs ago

Here is the link to the original comment thread. Or you can comment here to start a discussion. Author: _Bitcoin21

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wonderfulcarscent Yesterday

Absolutely not.

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BTC_Forever Yesterday

Excellent idea!

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LostPhotograph redditor for 4 weeks Yesterday

When even your taxi driver is in on it....It's doomed.

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One-eyed-snake Yesterday

I would never buy bitcoin. Some people got rich off of it and a lot of people are losing their asses. Or already lost most of their ass

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Stink-Finger Yesterday

If someone is stupid enough to buy bitcoin, sell it to them. Then take back the bitcoin for some magic beans.

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SomeUnicornsFly Yesterday

> Then take back the bitcoin You dont know much about bitcoin do you

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Stink-Finger Yesterday

Know enough not to sink any money into it. And I also called the crash....

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SomeUnicornsFly Yesterday

Do you realize what bitcoin's value was just a few years ago? It has steadily gone up in value. Just because it spiked for a brief moment in time doesnt mean it crashed, it just returned to the mean.

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Stink-Finger Yesterday

You should buy some.

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SomeUnicornsFly Yesterday

i did. Unfortunately I'm not rich enough to make any sort of meaningful investment in anything

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Stink-Finger 8 hs ago

> I'm not rich enough to make any sort of meaningful investment Probably because your investment decisions to date have been of the [Bitcoin quality](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QuSuKcrAeU).

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Sneakybobo redditor for 3 months Yesterday

Soon someone will make a hole in some public restroom and sell bitcoin from there.

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millsdmb Yesterday

nope, I used to in the gox days but now there are Undercovers. gotta be a registered money transmission business (a bank)

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Melting_Harps Yesterday

FastBitcoins’ founder and Jenkins’s pal, Danny Brewster, says he wants his point-of-sale terminals to be adopted in retail stores. (He gave Jenkins’s own device to him pro bono.) He says he’s currently in talks about installing them in businesses which he didn’t want to name, but which he said had 20,000 locations worldwide. “It’s aimed at people interested in holding bitcoins, or for contributing to people blackballed on Patreon or PayPal.”

For those of you wondering,this is the exact cunt who ran off with Neo-Bee's funds when Cyprus was collapsing; this guy sent us back several years in the public image. We seriously had a real usecase while the entire World was watching back in 2013, and this imbecile decided to run off and buy a Bentley and let the entire thing collapse.

Fuck this guy and his irredeemable company. How is that these media outlets don't do the slightest amount of research into who these guys are and what they've done?

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Thoomaeas Yesterday

Holy shit, Danny Brewster is back. I held some of his shitcoin scam on Bitfunder back in the day. 2018 is the new 2014 confirmed. I thought he was in hiding after he stole 9800 BTC. Why expose himself with this new venture if he already made a fortune from his Neo-Bee scam?

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Bitcoin_21 redditor for 3 months Yesterday

nice find. ahhhh, the good old times!

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GA_Thrawn Yesterday

lol that cunt didn't set us back several years. While he might be a cunt, he didn't set us back years. Things aren't THAT vulnerable. That's cute you think that though

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cryptocyprus Yesterday

I think you're extremely behind in exactly what happened. Feel free to criticise me but at least get your facts straight first.

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Melting_Harps Yesterday

Go on, tell us. Edit: Never mind, I'm not going to give you a platform to give shallow platitudes and how your new venture will make up for everything (including going dark for YEARS!). Its clear we've seen enough of you around here: >As per the last update everything with Cyprus is on hold until I free up some more funds, the registration process will be closed shortly on the redemption site (later than planned) I will then be allowing people to exchange their neobee for equity in the new entity (more details will be released as soon as I get everything launched and tested properly). The remaining NeoBee tokens will then be paid out over time as funds flow into the redemption pool from my own profits from Fastbitcoins.com and then later on anything else that is recovered from the legal processes regarding Cyprus.

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cryptocyprus Yesterday

There is plenty of information available, it all came out over the last 3 year's following all the court cases. DYOR on that, I'm beyond fed up of explaining it to people that are as wide of the mark as you are. As for the current state of affairs, private litigation is underway to hold those that made the false accusations against me and those that tried to blackmail me accountable. When all is complete any proceeds from that will be returned to those that backed Neo & Bee. Also to add any personal profits from fastbitcoins are being added to the pool of funds enabling those that backed Neo to benefit from that too. Have a nice day.

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reddit-already-mate redditor for 2 days Yesterday

Which he then uses to fund FakeTaxi

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SAT0SHl redditor for 7 weeks Yesterday

Baby steps ;-)

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i_gotta_say Yesterday

Inb4 "London taxi driver arrested for running a money transmission business without a licence."

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wiscokev Yesterday

where's your loicense for that joke m8

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AmbitiousSpeed0 redditor for 4 weeks Yesterday

where's your loicense for that irony m8

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krotans_kroutons Yesterday

Adoption confirmed?? Oh wait, no, it's literally just one taxi driver.

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ABitcoinAllBot Yesterday

Here is the link to the original comment thread. Or you can comment here to start a discussion. Author: _statues_dietoo

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D0nzo Crypto God | CC: 51 QC | ETH: 16 QC Yesterday

Hey guys! We have a BIG announcement.

We've decided to give 4 shitcoins to 10 farmers.

Merry Christmas!

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kanuuker Crypto God | Dashpay: 230 QC | CC: 58 QC Yesterday

Screw coinbase. Nothing but an establishment owned crony organization shilling Digital Cash Groups bags. This isn't helping, this is pandering.

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TechCynical Crypto God | CC: 70 QC | BTC: 17 QC 6 hs ago

Hurr durr coin base didn't pump my coin. Instead their feeding people for a year :((((

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cifereca Crypto God | CC: 21 QC | BTC: 16 QC Yesterday

This is not a donation. This is an advertisement.

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GreyAndroidGravy Crypto Nerd | XRP: 15 QC Yesterday

Anyone know the financials behind GiveCrypto? How much of the money actually gets donated vs how much goes into admin fees? The charity was founded by the CEO of Coinbase, so he's going to be getting a (maybe small?) slice of that donation.

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WhatThaFUD 1 - 2 years account age. 200 - 1000 comment karma. Yesterday

Day 1 <Yawn>, Day 2 <Yawn>.... hopefully at least one of the 10 remaining days won't be a garbage announcement no one gives a shit about.

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1crazypotato Yesterday

Oh okay, did not expect that at all. Shitbase does it best

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MinimalPuebla Crypto God | Ripple: 39 QC | CC: 20 QC | VEN: 17 Q Yesterday

WOW THAT'S SO GENEROUS

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Boomroomguy Crypto God | CC: 184 QC Yesterday

A multi- billion dollar company donated $10,000 in crypto and that’s the big announcement?

I’m sure those Venezuelans that barely have food or water will have the tools to cash their crypto.

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EL_CUNADO__ 1 - 2 years account age. 200 - 1000 comment karma. Yesterday

Yeah, I felt like this was kind of a promotion for ZEC more than some kind of actual meaningful update.

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Charles005 Crypto God | CC: 239 QC | REQ: 155 QC Yesterday

10,000$

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Boomroomguy Crypto God | CC: 184 QC Yesterday

My bad. I’m sure all those stores made of straw will accept their crypto as payment.

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