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neleram 36 mins ago

They should do this for child predators

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ukittenme 42 mins ago

Apple and google partnering means this is some serious sh!t

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wontfixnow 42 mins ago

inb4 nerds on both sides implode

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newtomtl83 1 h ago

Yeah, I don't like that.

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LitteLorax 1 h ago

Straight out of my nightmares this.

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Pundehlord 1 h ago

Singapore has already rolled out a similar app to this for its citizens to use. https://www.tracetogether.gov.sg/

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aman1251 1 h ago

“Desperate times require desperate measures”

~ Hippocrates

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Creativation 1 h ago

One wonders how the threats that Edward Snowden has warned of are going to be evaluated and factored into the development and eventual deployment of any "tracing" technologies.

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jeff_till 1 h ago

Nice new mass surveillance technique that will be used and developed further after this covid is all over

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Anthonylee12 1 h ago

What? Now they need to make the ultimate hybrid phone merge iOS with android that would be awesome!

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PeaceBull 1 h ago

ITT: people asking to next fix cross platform problems, not understanding it’s based on policy issues not technology.

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That1Cockysoab420 1 h ago

Yup, one dude already did it here in the comments

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Notty_PriNcE 1 h ago

Wow. Google has the same word-to-word article in their website. I never thought I'd live to see this day.

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demintheAF 1 h ago

If you don't find this terrifying, you're naive.

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bearlick 1 h ago

Dystopia's finest.

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Jig0lo 1 h ago

I just watched this today. Interesting stuff

https://youtu.be/BE-cA4UK07c

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UnstableParallel 1 h ago

that was really cool to see how it all works, i’m on board

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riffic 1 h ago

discussion starter: This is a technological approach of examining physical social networks. The privacy implications may be concerning. I would hope that this would be a system people can opt out of if desired.

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ReservoirPenguin 1 h ago

Phone off. Battery out.

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St0rmPi1ot 1 h ago

Can't remove battery? Put phone in a Faraday Cage.

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KMartSheriff 1 h ago

While I'm not crazy about the tracing aspects, I feel much better knowing Apple is involved and will hold user privacy to a very high standard. Plus, unlike many tracking concepts that are based around the idea of "national security", this one with tracing is actually trying to save lives. I've re-read the article a few times but it also seems as if this is entirely voluntary for user to opt-into?

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GlitchParrot 24 mins ago

Unless your government makes it mandatory, of course, it's all voluntary. And entirely local to your device, too, your data is not sent to neither Apple nor Google, unless you explicitly want to tell them that you're infected.

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AdditionalMarten 1 h ago

Technical stuff: https://www.apple.com/covid19/contacttracing/

Privacy-wise, it seems to work more or less the same as offline Find My, except that location isn’t collected.

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jcrrn 1 h ago

This is big and welcomed, though the privacy implications need to be documented in detail.

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georgehotelling 53 mins ago

[The overview](https://www.blog.google/documents/57/Overview_of_COVID-19_Contact_Tracing_Using_BLE.pdf) and [the whitepaper](https://covid19-static.cdn-apple.com/applications/covid19/current/static/contact-tracing/pdf/ContactTracing-BluetoothSpecification.pdf) (PDFs) are pretty readable, but [here's what it looks like they are doing, in comic form](https://ncase.me/contact-tracing/) if that helps.

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SauceTheeBoss 31 mins ago

Comic is almost correct. The infected user doesn’t send the contact keys, it sends the daily keys. The 2nd user checking to see if they have had contact (blue guy in comic) downloads the daily key list and derives the contact keys from that.

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PeaceBull 1 h ago

Ever looked in to how the find my app works?

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rosone 1 h ago

https://covid19-static.cdn-apple.com/applications/covid19/current/static/contact-tracing/pdf/ContactTracing-CryptographySpecification.pdf > This document provides the detailed technical specification for cryptographic key scheduling for a new privacy-preserving Bluetooth protocol to support Contact Tracing.

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riffic 1 h ago

I definitely can't *wait* to see this being turned against us.

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EldonChew 1 h ago

The Singapore Government Technology Agency (GovTech) developed and launched (the same thing) 3 weeks ago

https://www.tech.gov.sg/media/technews/tracetogether-behind-the-scenes-look-at-its-development-process

And it's open-sourced..

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redct 1 h ago

Singapore created an app, this is integration of OS-level support.

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graeme_b 1 h ago

Yup. Singapore’s app only works if the phone has the screen on, I think. These OS level efforts can work in the background.

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cyan0g3n 58 mins ago

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN!

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MiniMikeBloomberg 4 hs ago

And meanwhile the autistic screeching from the global times.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1185250.shtml

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baronjhui 10 hs ago

their success as a small country may not translate to success in larger countries. not to mention that they had a head start.

btw, historically the Asian countries' successes are looked down upon by the other developed countries, good luck telling Trump that some asian woman did a better job than he did.

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dusjanbe 7 hs ago

> btw, historically the Asian countries' successes are looked down upon by the other developed countries Correlate with how much they dislike Mainland Chinese. The West is mostly about political correctness and not discriminate against anyone. Taiwan, Vietnam, Mongolia, Hong Kong don't need more reasons to lock their border and barred Mainland Chinese from entering, public opinion would overwhelmingly favor the decision to keep "the Chinese virus" out. Meanwhile Italy and the US had all kind of stupid "Hug a Chinese" campaign, because "racism is bad".

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omgplzdontkillme Yesterday

Taiwan no.1

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

Because Taiwan doctors were in Wuhan in mid January and actually listen to China CDC advise to begin quarantining procedures.

But okay democracy defeated the virus.

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cheeven 1 h ago

Can you provide a reference about “China CDC”? I found it puzzling that Taiwanese should be following the advice from an unknown department from its enemy state. If there is a “China CDC”, did it also give the same advice to WHO? Wouldn’t that more countries to set up better virus control early on?

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IshikawaYurei Yesterday

The article doesnt claim democracy defeated the virus. This sentence is the only mention of democracy: > Taiwan, like the United States, is a democracy that deals with rampant online misinformation. However, your comment makes a good example for everyone else to see how *straw-man arguments* are helpful for disinformation agendas. This text from [wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man) describes exactly what you did. > A straw man (or strawman) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man". Given that the article is almost entirely about how the WHO excluded Taiwan, which didnt keep them from doing incredible work battling the virus, it isnt hard to figure out why you'd prefer to attack a straw-man. Staying on topic forces everyone to recognize CCP's efforts to compromise WHO, giving everyone an increasingly clear sense of who CCP actually is.

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

>Even normally controversial monitoring procedures and penalties for spreading false information about the coronavirus have largely escaped harsh scrutiny among a public largely confident in its government’s ability to contain the outbreak. That paragraph is trying to smoke screen the actual point. Taiwan DPP has been using the same anti-rumor anti-foriegn influence laws the same way the PRC does. So praising Taiwan DPP is like, praising them for behaving like the CCP. The article has this WHO all backwards. The 1st world followed US lead in recognizing PRC over ROC. The US can quite easily recognize ROC over the PRC. Right now the US contributes more money to the WHO and doesn't recognize the ROC. So why would the WHO adopt policy that are counter to its largest contributor?

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IshikawaYurei Yesterday

If I am understanding you correctly, I believe you're suggesting the US should do more to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty. I agree with that.

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

That's the only solution if you want ROC to be in the WHO. The WHO follows US policy. The only unfortunate side effect is Nuclear War. Since the US and China been at a stalemate over Taiwan for close to 80 years now.

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Maitai_Haier 11 hs ago

Who’s going to start a nuclear war over recognizing Taiwan? We should cut ties with China and recognize Taiwan directly. Who cares about how butt hurt the CCP gets?

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ABCinNYC98 7 hs ago

Sure with most of the Pacific fleet dealing with the covid-19. And US medical supplies coming from China. Seems like a great time to start a war with China over Taiwan.

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Maitai_Haier 7 hs ago

Recognizing Taiwan wouldn't be us starting a war. It would be on the Chicoms to push it. Plus last I heard our nukes still worked, so unless China wants to be turned to glass I don't think they would try us.

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ABCinNYC98 7 hs ago

So what stopping God Emporer Trump from doing that. Taiwan agreed to buy US military planes already. By the end of 2019 it US because ROC biggest debitor due to Taiwan loading up on US bonds like China. Let's do this....war.

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Maitai_Haier 7 hs ago

Fuck Trump on everything else except China. Trump is alright, but we need to elect more people who will take a hard line on the CCP and support Taiwan. Luckily the trend seems to be going in the right direction.

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IshikawaYurei Yesterday

WHO does not follow US policy. That is exactly the issue. The US effort to sort out the mess CCP played is just getting underway, so there isnt much point discussing further for now. There is a lot of interesting context behind the US working with PRC. China bailed on Russia because they werent *communist enough*, and they wanted to contain them. Teaming up with the US made that possible. The US has gone above and beyond trying to help China ever since, such as by educating so many of its elites, helping them enter WTO, and helping them build out their economy in a way beneficial to both sides. It is unfortunate to see CCP throw all of that goodwill away, but here we are. We could explore the other side too, such as who ROC was at the time the US and PRC made contact. Taiwan was ruled by KMT under martial law and was brutal during that time. They were offered a seat in the UN alongside Beijing but declined. In other words, they were ruled by violent leaders who didnt care about what the people wanted. Taiwan today is a very different story. They committed to reforms that have worked out quite well. They had their first democratic election in 1996, and KMT then lost power in the 2000 election. It would make sense to discuss democracy at this point, because that's the secret sauce of Taiwan's turn-around.

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ABCinNYC98 8 hs ago

If you believe that interpretation of geopolitics, then the world will make very little sense. Basically the US policy after supporting KMT in the Chinese civil war, was to try and contain communism. So the US supported various puppet regime in Asia. South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. The put military bases on them. Then as you stated US wanted to pull PRC to work against the USSR. The rest you wrote is pan-Green version of Taiwan history. Which is amusing but geopolitically won't make much of a difference. ROC status is determined by the relative strength of USA and PRC. Just like HK and Macau status was determined by yhe relative strength of PRC vs. UK and Portugal.

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IshikawaYurei 6 hs ago

It isnt surprising you think what I said isnt true, but it is the truth. The US didnt pull PRC away from USSR. PRC wanted to contain USSR and the US saw the opportunity and went for it. This is actually the moment the US and China reopened communications with each other. Mao and Nixon were even friends. Kissinger, Nixon's secretary of state, tells the whole story in his book On China, which itself has been criticized as demonstrating Kissinger's love and admiration of both the Chinese and authoritarian regimes. You can hear him tell the story first hand. Here is a youtube video covering some of the trip. You'll see that Nixon goes out of his way to handle things delicately and that he was sad about the way previous administrations had been disrespectful to China. https://youtu.be/Lnz7Ze71Pc0

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IshikawaYurei 6 hs ago

Btw, I dont deny the US wanted to contain communism too. That's exactly why the US-China partnership was able to start again. It was surprising to me too that Mao wanted to contain USSR. I understand it today as Mao looking out for China and doing what he wants with China, while caring less what systems his allies use as long as they follow through on what they say they will do. Mao believed post-stalin Russia was going soft and could not be trusted. The Espresso Stalinist, someone not interested in promoting a western capitalist agenda, covers some of the lines from Kissinger's book about their relationship with communist China and how the two sides viewed each other. In particular, the republicans and mao's communists both respected how hardline each other's views were. https://espressostalinist.com/2011/09/04/series-on-maoist-revisionism-kissinger-says-in-his-new-book-that-us-established-a-strategic-partnership-with-mao-to-contain-the-ussr/ *Edit: typos*

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naeblisrh Yesterday

You mean January when there government said everything was great?

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

China already issued a warning to WHO and released the genome of convid-19 by the time Taiwan doctors were in Wuhan by mid January. I think you're think about Trump and his positive view on "just the flu" in mid January.

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AONomad United States Yesterday

Please see Rule 1 in the sidebar.

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naeblisrh Yesterday

China was still saying everything was fine. When the us started banning fights from China, China said we were fear mongering. Keeping in mind that by the time the us did that, China was already locking down millions. Taiwan was like, nope. Fuck Ccp lies.

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

US never banned fights from China. Not even today. There have always been flights btwn China and US. I have buddies that work at JFK all through this covid-19 issue in NYC. Taiwan never said China lied to them about covid-19 in Wuhan in mid-January. It's obvious you only have half the news, or are reading some weird version of the news.

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naeblisrh Yesterday

Yes, we did. Trump keeps going on about it. Whether it actually happened the way he said is another story. The important thing is that China came back and called it fear mongering, that China had it under control, even as they were locking down millions. Taiwan took one look at what China was saying and what it was doing and they said nope. They don't got shit under control. We're banning flights from China. They didn't believe China when they said they had it under control. Look at them now. Whole world wishes they'd done the same. Kind of wish it had.

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

When were flights banned from China to US. Basically never. As of today about 630,000 people arrive from China into the US since the Wuhan lockdown. If you look at the sequence of events in Taiwan. Taiwan doctors are in Wuhan in mid January. Taiwan started screening planes from China. Once Wuhan goes into lockdown, Taiwan starts banning flights. Taiwan allows 1 flight back for ROC citizens but discovers a few have covid-19. Does not allow for anymore flights from Wuhan. Once Pres Xi announces Wuhan has turned the corner, the 2nd flight from Wuhan with ROC citizens is allowed to fly to Taiwan. Now while Taiwan is banning flights from China, it discovers "foriegners" are bringing covid-19 into Taiwan. So that ban anyone without a ROC passport from entering Taiwan. And allow some ARC holders to enter. Basically Taiwan success was basically listening to China CDC to restrict travel between provinces. (From China CDC perspective Taiwan is a province still). Then restricting entry into taiwan to ROC passport holder who had to go through a 14 day quarantine like passengers that entered mainland China. So their success is actually copying China's methodology to containing covid-19. But if you want to spin as Taiwan democracy successs story by all means go ahead. But stick to the facts at least.

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RedditRedFrog 7 hs ago

I'm from Taiwan and you're a liar. That's all.

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ABCinNYC98 7 hs ago

是嗎。為何妳以為我說謊? Just accusing people of being liars isn't very fruitful.

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naeblisrh Yesterday

Ask the president. He's the one who keeps saying he banned flights from China. Like I said, he didn't do a great job. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa/china-accuses-u-s-of-scaremongerng-over-coronavirus-idUSKBN1ZX0QR https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/01/31/us-declares-health-emergency-bans-most-travelers-from-china/ When did Taiwan listen to China's CDC? Did Taiwan lock down millions of people into their homes? From Taiwan's perspective, it is it's own country. And as a country, it was the first country to ban flights from anywhere in China. The fact that China said the US was fear mongering after they were locking down millions of people means that when they had shit under control, they didn't. Taiwan's success is that they acted on the assumption that China DID not have the virus under control, or that they could get it under control. Taiwan acted accordingly and in doing so did NOT have to force their population to stay inside for 3 months, which is what most of Hubei was doing. And Im not the one spinning a democracy win. You're trying to shit on the good that someone else did.

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ABCinNYC98 Yesterday

Read the articles no where did they say ban flights. The point of those articles is China is complaining about evacuating Americans and restricting entry of Chinese national to the US. Your downvoting me when I'm correct. No wonder r/China becoming a cesspool. Cite the Taiwan article that supports your claim. Taiwan is like Hainandao for the mainland. No one in Hainandao was locked in their homes either. The further away from Wuhan the less strict and less time was spent under quarantine in China. Most of the other province had quarantine lifted in a month or less. All Taiwan did was follow the advice of the China CDC. That's why the WHO issue is also pretty strange. Taiwan was already following the advice of China CDC to restrict travel between provinces, why do they need membership to the WHO. Taiwan restrict travel as per China CDC advisement. Taiwan resume in bound flights from Wuhan once China CDC declared the Wuhan crisis was under control.

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naeblisrh 12 hs ago

Ahh, I made a mistake about the banning. I listen to the president sometimes and I forget he's a full of shit. Regardless, China accused us of fear mongering because they said they had this under control. They did not. Taiwan did not listen and acted accordingly. And by accordingly, they acted by doing what other countries should have done: ban flights from China. The country didn't have to lock itself down because it acted accordingly. They followed their own disease protocols by screening passengers from China and later on everyone else. The WHO issue is because when asked about Taiwan's possible acceptance into the WHO, instead saying that it was up to other member nations as to which nations were let in, the person being asked decided to hang up. And I'm downvoting you because for some reason you felt it was necessary to shit on a democratic COUNTRY's success in fighting this disease by attacking democracy. I'm downvoting you because through out this entire conversation, you've also consistently and willfully hinted that Taiwan is a province of China and not a COUNTRY. But prove me wrong. Say that Taiwan is a country and ill take back that last part.

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kohzilla Yesterday

And national health care vs mainland.

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Parabellum27 Yesterday

What an embarrassment for the CCP and nationalist snow flakes to be overshadowed by Taiwan’s successes.

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cosimonh New Zealand Yesterday

I'll start celebrating if Taiwan doesn't have a surge after 清明節 and no new cases.

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KitchenMolasses Yesterday

Tai-what??? Sorry, I couldn't hear you. Let's move on

edit: /s

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EggyComics 11 hs ago

T-A-I-W-A-N Taiwan. Get your hearing checked. You can pretend all you want that Taiwan doesn’t exist but we’ll always be here like an inconvenient thorn you wish would go away.

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witheverythingpos Yesterday

Taiwan numba wan!

Easy karma

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MotherFreedom Yesterday

Good try sino troll

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jcr0022 Yesterday

CCP sponsored great firewall-climbing troll

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landingpagedudes Yesterday

Make Taiwan the new China

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Exastiken Yesterday

No, let Taiwan be Taiwan. Taiwan doesn’t want the mainland, they just want to be recognized as the independent nation it already is.

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dustin008chen Yesterday

Change the constitution first .

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Exastiken Yesterday

That requires not getting invaded by China the moment Taiwan does that.

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dustin008chen Yesterday

Yep , no risk no take . There's zero chance that Taiwan get to be recognized as a country by any major countriwa without Taiwan knowing who they are themselves. There's zero chance that Taiwan get to be admitted as a country by UN with the name of Republic of CHINA. People's Republic of CHINA : hello ?

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jcr0022 Yesterday

There is North KOREA and South KOREA in the UN. ROC and PROC are not impossible. It's not ideal, ROT is preferable but a good start.

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michi_88 4 hs ago

You can't be serious LOL, it's a well known fact. North Korea claims both the territory of North and South and claims to be THE one and only Korea while South Korea claims both the territory of North and South and claims to be THE one and only Korea, sound familiar? The difference is South Korea even though being more powerful than North Korea doesn't bribe, bully or force other countries to recognize a silly "One-Korea Policy" that shuts out North Korea from the international stage unlike childish China/PRC does to Taiwan/ROC. Though I am in the camp that the constitution should eventually change to officially drop the mainland claim and become Republic of Taiwan because I think China won't go through with their "we have missles pointed at you and we will invade you" bluff because of economic sanctions (economy is a pillar of the CCP) is more likely than China agreeing to two Chinas co-existing in this world.

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jcr0022 Yesterday

Stop with the BS. *South Korea was formerly governed by one-party military dictatorships until 1987 when it held* [*direct elections*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_election)*. Both nations claim the entire* [*Korean peninsula*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_peninsula) *and outlying islands. Both nations joined the* [*United Nations*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) *in 1991 and are recognized by most member states.* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North\_Korea%E2%80%93South\_Korea\_relations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea%E2%80%93South_Korea_relations) Very first paragraph.

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Exastiken Yesterday

Taiwan knows who they are themselves. They just can’t say it out loud because of China’s bullying and threats. That’s why the current mask diplomacy is laying some groundwork for worldwide recognition to deter a PRC invasion, by proving how strategically and globally important Taiwan is.

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dustin008chen Yesterday

You seriously overestimate the power of masks.....

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Exastiken Yesterday

And you are underestimating it. Taiwan’s actions of providing aid and information as well as serving as a COVID-19 response model have started forming a coalition of countries demanding Taiwan have observer status at the WHO, a basic, mostly humanitarian role that China has used political maneuvering to vehemently block Taiwan out of that even tiny, economically small countries have. It’s asinine to believe that Mainland China is not at fault for Taiwan’s current international situation and that Taiwan’s lack of name-changing is its own folly.

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oDDmON Yesterday

Taiwan is filling a void left by the US on the world stage.

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asiyehh Yesterday

First response from Taiwan:

“Taiwan, which is not part of the World Health Organization (WHO), decided to screen all passengers from Wuhan starting on Dec. 31, the same day it learned of the then-unknown virus in the Chinese city. Days later, the WHO was first warned that the virus appeared to transmit by direct human-to-human contact—a statement that was ignored. Taiwan’s 23 million citizens have taken precautions but have refrained from panic, confident in the centralized and consistent flow of information from Taiwan’s Central Epidemic Command Center—set up in immediate response to the virus—and countries such as New Zealand and Israel have said they will use Taiwan’s response to influence their own.”

Please note the date of the first response: Dec. 31!

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TheEnabledDisabled Yesterday

we already talked about China - Person in WHO

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dankhorse25 Yesterday

The only thing I was hearing from the media is not too worry about it and that it's just like the flu.

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Davidson765 Yesterday

Make Taiwan the new WHO

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MicrosoftExplorer Yesterday

TaiWho

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RollForThings 9 hs ago

Completely off topic, but there's a brewing company in Taiwan called Taihu (臺虎). Good beer!

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LaChuteQuiMarche Yesterday

TaiYOU!

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MicrosoftExplorer Yesterday

Tai1

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LaChuteQuiMarche Yesterday

Taiwand- you’re a virus, Harry

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mystyphy Yesterday

Forget the WHO, start a new health organization with Taiwan. Then we can say China WHO?

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ubermoxi Yesterday

Looks like they brought out the big guns to fight the virus

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BigBadBox Yesterday

The one country without access to the WHO does the best.

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yeetingAnyone Yesterday

What access to the WHO is Taiwan being denied by being considered a province of China?

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Exastiken Yesterday

Access to information shared between member countries at the WHA and access to WHO’s resources. Taiwan’s had to rely on its own national resources and trade information with ally and neighboring nations in order to get the information from diplomatic channels instead.

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invictus_inmoralis Yesterday

It is like the WHO right now is detrimental. No no, it must be conspiracy theories and racism....

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freddyt55555 Yesterday

Taiwan Is Exporting Its Coronavirus

This is the first thing I read. LOL

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CandidTangelo9 Yesterday

yeah the cannon doesnt help at all heh

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DunklerReiter Yesterday

Thx you Taiwan- great country 🇹🇼

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TioPuerco 1 week ago

BELIEVE ALL WOMEN was the Lefty rally cry during the Kavanaugh hearings but it clearly doesn’t apply when a Dem is under the microscope

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NinjaNerd99 Traditionalist 1 week ago

MeeToo is rapidly deflating. They already gave Bloomberg a pass for it.

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AngelsSaints20 1 week ago

Lol it's a year old, of course they've swept it under the rug. Remember, only conservatives are guilty of sexual misconduct, this is 2020!

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Klik23 1 week ago

Shoot, I'm a bit too late. I thought this was newer.

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mob16151 :flairless: Flairless Mong 1 week ago

If she didn't want it, she shouldn't have been alone with a dude from Delaware.

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scotian-surfer 1 week ago

What is he exaggerating about with his fingers? -Awww joe

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GoldunAura 1 week ago

some people call him the white bill cosby

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Heyhoneyhey69 :flairless: Flairless Mong 1 week ago

Women need to btfo

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Pr1nceRob0tIV 1 week ago

April 4 2019, year old article

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DanglingDiceBag 1 week ago

Well, that checks off one of the prerequisites to hold the office of President.

Biden has always given me this weird, uncomfortable vibe. I just had a bad feeling about him and he makes me uncomfortable. That would be why. I hope he doesn't make it to office, but as we have seen in the past, the general public is willing to overlook a person's history of sexual assaults if they play their cards right.

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Deep-Restaurant 1 week ago

Once when camping a small field mouse tried to crawl in my ass for warmth.

I imagine that's what a sexual encounter with Biden is like.

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Deep-Restaurant 1 week ago

He doesnt grab em by the pussy he fingers them

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NotherThrowaway284 1 week ago

So all the little witch hunters are spontaneously less interested in the hunt now, are they? Just color me all kinds of surprised that I definitely am not.

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abelenkpe 1 week ago

Kinda strange to go from supporting MeToo and nominating Hillary Clinton to pushing Joe Biden as the best choice.

I don't understand people who are not enthusiastically supporting Bernie.

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calloutthebull 1 week ago

i mean Hillary was no champion of womens rights either outside of being a woman she viciously attacked all the females that accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault she defended that dude that raped a 12 year old (idc if it was her job, if you're a feminist, you don't just take a case like that and chuckle about it later) she's like biden, she's progressive not because thats what she really believes in, but because that's what democratic voters want. if in 10 years dems want to get rid of abortions, you'll see establishment dems change their tune and try to get rid of abortions

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ModerateReasonablist 1 week ago

I think most people assume sanders can’t win the nomination.

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xprimez 1 week ago

Yeah I think people are just leaning towards the familiar, people aren’t willing to take a big gamble when there’s so much at stake. If our sitting president was anybody else I think bernie definitely has a shot at the White House.

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blaghart 1 week ago

Considering something like 80% of Biden voters said Bernie was their second choice that is a plausible belief

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LemonPartyWorldTour 1 week ago

Can’t wait to not hear about this on the news!

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DDZZKK 1 week ago

JUST VOTE TRUMP OUT YOU DUMB FOOLS. WHO CARES WHO IT IS. HE'S BETTER THAN TRUMP.

Fucking imbeciles. Your morale highground doesn't fucking matter anymore.

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mulutavcocktail 1 week ago

NO! YOU DUMB FUCK Its time to choose Trump or Bernie - Biden will never beat Trump. Every young person will make sure of that. Whoopie will be the only one voting for Biden, oh, and you

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DDZZKK 1 week ago

Oh I’m not voting for Biden I just like copy pasting that on Bernie subs, stoke the flames for my amusement u know?

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mulutavcocktail 1 week ago

good. hahahhaha

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agoraphobic_anagrams 1 week ago

The primaries are not over. Do you honestly think that Trump wouldn't use this against Biden in a general election? Biden is a HUGE liability. And no, we're not "giving him ammunition." His campaign would have dug it up anyway, guaranteed.

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DDZZKK 1 week ago

Oh my fucking God. Bernie has to win the remaining votes by a higher margin that he did in his home state. Get fucking real. 4 more years of Trump because of you idiots.

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TheOGJammies 1 week ago

I mean we’ve seen it right out in the open I can’t imagine what it’s like behind closed doors.

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AsceticBlur 1 week ago

Watching sick people defend this gross bastard is going make watching him get utterly destroyed in the general all the sweeter.

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AsceticBlur 1 week ago

LMFAO this is just getting more rediculous by the day. Next week Trump will name his dead uncle Surgeon General and then aliens will land down here take a look around at and say fuck this.

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Aegidius25 1 week ago

Ironically metoo is mostly hurting liberal men

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chey8777 1 week ago

he's such a creep

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cloudsnacks 1 week ago

I wouldnt call the Tara Reade accusation molestation, its rape.

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wccusdemployee 1 week ago

Time to go rapey joe

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meowlolcats 1 week ago

> No men have come forward, but all of the women have said Biden’s unwanted behavior wasn’t sexual but made them uncomfortable. > rapey joe Something doesn’t quiiiite add up here

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wccusdemployee 1 week ago

Penetration is rape bro

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meowlolcats 1 week ago

Ok, is there another source accusing him of that? I don’t see anything in the article that mentions anything even remotely related to penetration. Just gonna add for context Bernie is a million times a better candidate imo but I really don’t know what you’re talking about with these accusations (ok edit other articles mention the penetration thing nvm)

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wccusdemployee 1 week ago

The lady he fingered then fired for complaining about the sexual asault

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uswhole 1 week ago

resting his hand on the thigh of sexual assault survivor Caitlyn Caruso during an event on sexual assault

big yikes my dude.

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RoveCove 1 week ago

He comes across as doing this on purpose. It's a gross power play.

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poopy_mcbuttt 1 week ago

all of the women have said Biden’s unwanted behavior wasn’t sexual but made them uncomfortable.

This title is misleading.

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Krisevol 1 week ago

Just wait till Trump invites all of them to the debates like he did with clinton.

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FThumb Election Reform Or Else 1 week ago

Title reflects new information.

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daisycutting 1 week ago

Hasn't he molested children on tv?

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Indubius 1 week ago

Joe Biden is a pedophile. [It's time to talk about former Vice President Joe Biden, the open sexual predator. A thread/moment...](https://twitter.com/RAMRANTS/status/930065838387863552) [Joe Biden is a CREEP! GROPING SENATORS CHILDREN!!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXweiRjckI). [Jeff Sessions swats creepy Uncle Joe's hands away](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqPln0m6sxE).

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TitBiscuit 1 week ago

He has also digitally raped Tara Reade

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FThumb Election Reform Or Else 1 week ago

CSPAN, Oval Office awards ceremonies, dignitary's children.

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logjammin - @logjammin 1 day ago

This is a problem of insufficient data. We don't have a denominator, so there's no way to tell if it's more widespread than we thought. In fact there's no good way to tell how widespread it is at all. We have numerators: number of people sick enough to show to up to an ER, or number dead, or whatever, take your pick. But in every fraction we might want, we lack a denominator: total number of people infected.

There's a stuningly simple way to get one: sample randomly from a population of interest in large enough numbers (say e.g. Cook County, home of Chicago, or hell, the entire US) and test everyone for the virus. Voila! You have a representative chunk of your population, an estimate of virus prevalence, and a quantifiable degree of precision about that estimate (SE's for a confidence interval, say). With enough people in your sample, you can have extremely accurate estimates of the spread of Covid in your population of interest. You repeat this process over and over, through time, to track the numbers.

I'm not trivializing this kind of effort: it takes rigorous sampling designs and dozens or hundreds of field workers, among other things. It's intense but very straightforward. Political pollsters (and thousands of researchers in different fields) do it every day.

No one in the US has done this, and no one with any visibility from Fauci on down has even suggested it (that I know of; please correct me). I work in public health, and this is first year, first semester of grad school stuff.

This matters because the public health responses to coronavirus when there's 1% or 10% or 25% or 75% of a population infected all look very different. In short, we may be over- or underreacting to the situation with the measures we currently have in place.

I've been going half crazy wondering what's happening about this for a while now. After the initial fuckup, we now have tests. We have money. We can do this. Why don't we?

(Iceland has done this!)

amscanne - @amscanne 1 day ago

% of visits to primary care provider is a _terrible_ metric. People have been actively advised to stay away from the Doctor’s office and hospitals for routine reasons (and reschedule for later). Obviously the % visiting because they think they have Covid is going up, even if they don’t have it!

foton1981 - @foton1981 1 day ago

I dont understand how would such highly contagious virus suppress and contain itself if it started in CA months ago. As if Californians have no outbound travel. Impossible scenario.

alephnan - @alephnan 1 day ago

Was this data not publicly available ? Were there not army of analysts? I thought with Machine Learning being all the rage and hype, we’d have more people and machine keeping tabs on all kinds of trends, this included. Good that we have these retroactive inspections, but the whole appeal of ML is its predictive power is it not? Or did the hedge funds just keep this knowledge to themselves?

jrfinkel - @jrfinkel 1 day ago

Here’s a preprint of the actual paper: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20050542v...

vondur - @vondur 1 day ago

I was pretty sick in late February, and ended up in the urgent care at my local Kaiser. It was packed at the time too. Seemed like everyone was sick with the flu.

DevKoala - @DevKoala 1 day ago

> "I think the 3.4 percent is really a false number — and this is just my hunch — but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this, because a lot of people will have this and it's very mild, they'll get better very rapidly. They don't even see a doctor. They don't even call a doctor. You never hear about those people,..."

At the time, the person who said that was called an idiot.

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Michael Casey - @mikejcasey

The interview everyone needed to hear. Thank you @chamath https://t.co/lLty2pf7wN

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TheHODLAnalyst⚡️ - @PaytheTollman

RT @BobMcElrath: Investors are risk-takers. Investors who get "bailed out" have done poor risk management and are transferring the risk to the public. They do not deserve to profit from their failure. Airlines which go into bankruptcy get reformed as a new airline. Spot on https://t.co/SwHCGEmWZl

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Keiser Report - @KeiserReport

RT @realmaxkeiser: .@chamath encapsulates 10 yrs of @KeiserReport for a CNBC host For more context and greater in-depth analysis of how financiers are undermining markets and democracy, watch “Keiser Report” https://t.co/LK28Y0CDBa

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RT @peggymangot: Chamath speaks with such utter, unwavering conviction.. No hedging, No disclaimers. It’s powerful. Have a listen👇 https://t.co/tD09aHN8Au

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lawson baker : 88发 babafa - @lwsnbaker

RT @milessuter: Bring back capitalism. https://t.co/ypfQBI9Nh9

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zooko - @zooko

RT @milessuter: Bring back capitalism. https://t.co/ypfQBI9Nh9

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Dr. Julian Hosp - @julianhosp

Totally agree https://t.co/xPyjPawkGj

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Hunter Horsley - @HHorsley

If there's one thing you listen to today, listen to these 2 minutes of incredibly clear logic by @chamath on why bailouts protect investors NOT employees. https://t.co/hV0oxsFYcV

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Aaron van Wirdum - @AaronvanW

RT @Excellion: Holy shit. @ScottWapnerCNBC if you think no one deserves to get wiped out or it’s immoral, you might be interested in communism. Morality mixing with monetary policy is why fiat currencies are doomed. #Bitcoin fixes this. https://t.co/fqyBlaA1L9

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Samson Mow - @Excellion

Holy shit. @ScottWapnerCNBC if you think no one deserves to get wiped out or it’s immoral, you might be interested in communism. Morality mixing with monetary policy is why fiat currencies are doomed. #Bitcoin fixes this. https://t.co/fqyBlaA1L9

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Marty Bent - @MartyBent

RT @LibertyBlitz: Chamath Palihapitiya absolutely crushes it in this interview. Must watch. Perfection. 👏👏👏 @chamath https://t.co/e8VflpN611

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chast1 2 hs ago

Chamath Palihapitiya hit the nail on the head with this. Leaders of either party will never put Main Street ahead of Wall Street.

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scroopynoopers1 :flag-mi: Michigan Yesterday

I'm just waiting for that sweet, sweet trickle down

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Quexana Yesterday

They're the only ones who are going to be bailed out in this.

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smmigliazzo Yesterday

Billionaires shouldn't exist, period.

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Hobbit_hooker Yesterday

You're right it shouldn't. But it is, as usual.

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GiantCock7546 Yesterday

Remember when Trump said he wouldn't take money from wealthy donors?

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____candied_yams____ Yesterday

And?

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____candied_yams____ Yesterday

Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAt7Rg1u2l8

Chamath is worth $1B and yet is discussing here the kind of employee-centric capitalism that America should be about.

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