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DerekRobot 18 hs ago

No, I like being paid in money.

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krokodilmannchen 18 hs ago

How do you guys handle the privacy issues?

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WeLiveInaBubble 21 hs ago

I personally wouldn't like my wage to fluctuate by +/- 5 % to the value of an inflationary currency. Especially one that is that the whim of an idiot.

Edit: I would really love to hear what you disagree with here.

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mariapaulafn Just Awesome 17 hs ago

I am Argentinian, and even though I dont live there, sometimes my family's wages fluctuate 30% in a month by the country's inflationary currency. I think I can see a strong use-case here. Do you have any idea how many people in countries with ever-fluctuating currencies would be able to live more peacefully by choosing DAI?

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WeLiveInaBubble 17 hs ago

That's a really interesting point. Thank you. I live in the UK and have considered DAI so as not to be exposed to the Brexit Pound but that is nowhere near as volatile as other countries. I love when I'm a little less ignorant through replies to an ignorant comment I've made. Though I do think in my personal case, GBP to USD is less a good case to use DAI.

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throwies11 15 hs ago

I think the inflection point between two currencies is often not seen from people in places with more stable economies. So we lack a good frame of reference. It's usually in developing countries where the benefits of decentralized currency would take more place.

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mariapaulafn Just Awesome 16 hs ago

I too would prefer DAI to be pegged to a currency more adapted to my political ideology, but hey - it's only a currency, and it should not reflect any political inclination. As long as its relatively stable, it should work (and as long as he doesn't pull some kind of law to have his face in a bill - I'd probably quit the world in general :) )  From my experience with contractors in Argentina and DAI, and why is better than transacting in USD: 1. Once the money hits your account, it converts to Pesos at the current market rate (unless is a Dollar-specific bank account, which used to exist but now im not really sure, as some years ago, the government blocked the citizens from freely exchanging pesos to foreign currencies, as the peso is so unstable that EVERYONE saves in dollars - and properties are valued in dollars) - hence, you might wake up a week from when you got your salary, and it can totally be 10% less valuable, for no apparent reason. 2. Complex banking system: Argentina - as the US - does not have IBAN, so if you work remote, your contractors will have to go through a routed bank to send you the money, and this might easily take 5 days, that is, if the transaction is done correctly, if there are no bank holidays in the countries, or bank strikes (also normal). Obviously DAI transactions are fast and exchanges in Argentina have amazing experience - I am really surprised by BuenBit, it's faster and more effective for KYC, fees and tx than any other centralized exchange i have ever seen - because the people really need it. 3. Sometimes there's no cash in the ATMs: yeah, south america. Especially on long weekends. So if you could transact with vendors and your phones, that would be ace. 4. DAI can stay in your wallet, and you can choose the exact time to exchange it for pesos (i think it converts straight to pesos, not to USD), so probably, if you exchange just what you need, and then wait till the peso fluctuates in favor of USD, then you actually have a tool to protect you against the fluctuations, which are the whims of +100 years of history of plain idiots mismanaging a country. Sorry for the wall of text, but maybe it's interesting for you :)

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ericools 23 hs ago

Personally I would prefer not to be paid in something pegged to the value of the dollar. That's how they steal from us though inflation.

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USBayernChelseaLCFC 19 hs ago

That’s an unrealistic sentiment - if the value of what you’re paid in devalues to the equivalent of cents to the dollar you would not accept that form of payment any longer. Or would you not?

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ericools 16 hs ago

I would accept it if nobody was willing to pay me in a better currency, the same reason I accept dollars. I wouldn't hold it any longer than I absolutely had to though, and I would greatly prefer to be paid in something that can't others can't print more of whenever they want.

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mariapaulafn Just Awesome 16 hs ago

Well, OP should know that there are things called payment terms, and that you can choose to add to your payment terms "XXXX USD on its equivalent in DAI on the day of the payment" so then you can even steal from them. Or by hodling DAI (and only cashing out when needed) till inflation goes down, and then offboarding. Inflation hacks FTW.

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scott_lew_is 22 hs ago

payroll in ETH is 100% supported!

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ericools 22 hs ago

That's nice, but the question I am responding to isn't asking about being paid in ETH.

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kutuzof 20 hs ago

What question were you responding to?

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ericools 19 hs ago

Uh, the question in the title of this post. \>[Do you think people should be paid in DAI?](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/bezk40/do_you_think_people_should_be_paid_in_dai_we_do/)

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iLoveStableCoins 17 hs ago

Btw, Dai on compound, dharma or expo earns in interest much, much more than it loses via inflation by the fed. Inflation is 3% (at most) and interest on dai is 6-12% right now.

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ericools 16 hs ago

The inflation figures are arguable, but setting that aside for the moment. Where exactly does that 6-12% interest come from?

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iLoveStableCoins 15 hs ago

Exporrading.com/lend currently 12% and dharma is doing 11%

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ericools 14 hs ago

Yeah, you told me that. I didn't ask who was offering it. I asked where those funds come from. Dharma is paying you interest on your DAI in the same way banks pay interest on savings (or at least used to). It's not part of DAI. It's something that could be just as easily offered for any other token and is. The rate for DAI is pretty good at the moment, but I have a small amount of ETH earning 6.5% right now, that beats 3% inflation and it's on a coin that doesn't suffer the dollars inflation. Earning that percentage on either coin however is a considerable risk. It requires you to give your coins to someone else and trust not only that they pay the interest out, but that they actually give you back your original coins at some point. This is a risk people need to consider and shouldn't be something everyone needs to rely on simply to avoid inflation tax. Even if DAI manages to hold it's peg long term USD inflation isn't always going to be 3%. It's very likely to get a lot higher than that. The debt situation in the US is to the point where the only way to avoid default will be to print more and more dollars. Loans from operations like Dharma are already expensive. How many people are going to borrow if they go up by 10%? This is not a reliable mechanism.

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scott_lew_is 22 hs ago

ohhh. i see. thanks for the feedback!

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RamblinMans Yesterday

What are the fees? Not going to sign up before seeing that and I cannot seem to find a breakdown on the site. Thanks.

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scott_lew_is Yesterday

zero. We currently plan to keep a very functional and useful tier of Whisp free forever. It is too early to full-on promise that, but that is our goal.

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BlockEnthusiast 13 hs ago

Do you pay over side chain or mainnet?

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RamblinMans 23 hs ago

Awesome, thank you for the quick response!

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MuuaadDib 19 hs ago

This is the redacted one, I can't wait to see the full report. Is the infamous pee tape going to show up? If anything it shows how someone I hated Sessions was just more of a human than Barr....there is no worse criticism.

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chalbersma Libertarian 16 hs ago

In fairness most of the report has been released. Like there's plenty of content and context there.

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RespectTheLaw 19 hs ago

Glenn's living in a fantasy world if he thinks that's the case. Or he hasn't read the report. The report is clear that there was communication between the Trump campaign and representatives of the Russian government regarding information that would be damaging to Clinton. The caveat is that there was not sufficient evidence to prosecute (at least in this redacted version). I have a feeling we'll see what evidence was uncovered when the unredacted version hits. There's also language that Mueller believes Trump Jr./Kushner didn't know what they were doing was technically illegal, which is a sorry excuse for not pursuing charges.

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bluefootedpig 18 hs ago

Exactly, "Sorry Officer, I didn't know smoking weed was illegal." if only that worked.

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Mist_Rising Lack of dissent is no proof of greatness. 15 hs ago

Technically it would work if the law said, "did knowingly, smoke marijuana" at which point you can say you didnt know it was marijuana.

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OpenBookExam 19 hs ago

Obliterated. Slammed. Destroyed. Anyone else bored of the buzz words?

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chalbersma Libertarian 16 hs ago

The nature of headlines in the modern world.

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Bruce_G 19 hs ago

Not the internet illiterate. They eat that shit up.

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AcrobaticAssociation 20 hs ago

It’s worse if he’s not a Russian stooge. If trumps not a Russian stooge he’s just a moron.

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SamQuentin 22 hs ago

This is a pretty stupid statement: “ One can debate whether it’s unethical for a presidential campaign to have dirt about its opponent released by a foreign government, “ because Trump and his campaign had no role or control over what dirt was released. There is no ethical role to play. If the campaign had asked that foreign government not to release the dirt that WOULD BE collusion.

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Fewwordsbetter 22 hs ago

The dude colluded live on TV. Sorry.

And he hates almost all that Bernie stands for.

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nomadicwonder #1 Tulsi - #2 Bernie - #3 BUST 22 hs ago

> The dude colluded live on TV. Sorry. LOL. Did Reagan collude with Gorbachev? You're a fucking moron. Weird how a 2+ year investigation missed the president colluding on live TV. Fucking delusional. > And he hates almost all that Bernie stands for. That describes the Democratic leadership. They hate Medicare-For-All, raising the minimum wage, free college, and ending the wars.

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Fewwordsbetter 19 hs ago

TRIAL OFFER | 4 weeks for 99¢ ADVERTISEMENT 112 POSTS FILTER GO TO NEW POSTS Jul. 27, 2016, 9:17 a.m. By NOAH BIERMAN Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails BuzzFeed News ✔@BuzzFeedNews Trump Expressly Asks Russia To Hack Clinton’s Emails https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/russia-if-you-are-listening … 160 10:57 AM - Jul 27, 2016 307 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy Donald Trump dared a foreign government to commit espionage on the U.S. to hurt his rival on Wednesday, smashing yet another taboo in American political discourse and behavior. “Russia, if you're listening, I hope you’ll be able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” he said, referring to deleted emails from the private account Hillary Clinton used as secretary of State. “I think you’ll probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Trump made the remarks at a lengthy and unusual news conference in Doral, Fla., in which he also said NATO is outdated, told a reporter to “be quiet” and said the reason that the Democratic National Committee was hacked was because foreign leaders do not respect the U.S. He also called President Obama “the most ignorant president in our history,” alleged that Russian leader Vladimir Putin had disparaged Obama with “the n-word” Nobody missed a thing.

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nomadicwonder #1 Tulsi - #2 Bernie - #3 BUST 19 hs ago

Have you ever asked yourself why *email content that Democrats wrote* would be damaging to Hillary Clinton? Have you ever asked yourself why **their own words** would be so damaging to the candidate they supported? Why is that? It's weird how Russians can throw an entire election in Trump's favor by allegedly hacking stuff the Democrats wrote.

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Fewwordsbetter 13 hs ago

The point is he solicited help from a foreign power to subvert our democracy.

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Sdl5 19 hs ago

You are so incredibly misinformed by propaganda I suspect your entire thought process and critical thinking are severely malfunctioning. No one not willfully insisting on believing pure fabulism and partisan narratives even remotely buys into the collusion or any other aspect claimed by the rabid Russiagater sects. No matter *WHO* they support, voted for, or their ideology. This is just sad.

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_ordis_ 23 hs ago

The media is going to criticize Mueller over and over just like they do with trump since he didn't meet their "expectations" on the report.

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666SignoftheBEAST Yesterday

Man I used to like Glenn Greenwald back in the day. He was a big part of the OUTFOXED documentary that really laid out the motivations behind fox news.

Really sad to see him trying so hard to deflect for Trump. I wonder what happened to him

SPEZ: Nevermind, I am dumb. That was a different Greenwald lol

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mikeleoncraft Yesterday

You should be happy your President isn't a Russian asset. Obama on the other hand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8

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666SignoftheBEAST 23 hs ago

My President not being a Russian asset is great and all, but I'd also prefer if he werent a bumbling, self-centered, pathological liar

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_RealityIsntReal 17 hs ago

Can't argue with this.

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Balthanos 21 hs ago

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vigorous Yesterday

The Pitchfork Gang is relentless.

McCarthyism is alive and well in the USA!

Dumbfucks still watching Queen Bee Mad Cow

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inquimouse Yesterday

It occurs to me that Mueller saying "no Americans [at all] colluded" is also cover for 0, Hillary, et al.

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NewSouthernBelle USA 15 hs ago

Oh they colluded. Maybe not with Russia, but with Ukraine. And with Mexico. And the 5 Eyes.

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The_Alpaca_Lips USMC 19 hs ago

>It occurs to me that Mueller saying "no Americans [at all] colluded" is also cover for 0, Hillary, et al. That was my immediate thought as well. That shit bag is covering for Obama and Hillary.

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PedeNeedsSpeed WA 22 hs ago

He investigated 300 million Americans? Did he really say something that fucking retarded.

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robertromano VA 22 hs ago

Rosenstein, who was overseeing Mueller said it. When Russian intelligence officers were [indicted](https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download) by Mueller of hacking the DNC and Podesta emails and putting them on Wikileaks, although at times the Russians were allegedly in contact with Americans, [Rosenstein had flatly noted](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvuCRIdxi0g), “There is no allegation in this indictment that the Americans knew they were corresponding with Russian intelligence officers.” Rosenstein added, “There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime,” nor was there any indication the hacks had altered any votes or the outcome of the election.

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Chodeus USA Yesterday

Never thought of it that way. Cover up!!

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Lerm4Comptroller Yesterday

God... I'm going to start hitting the Intercept just to mine the comments. He's set up such an unsustainable coalition of idiots that it's mind boggling.

But I guess it was pretty foreseeable considering the outlet he tried to set up: a bunch of real journalists--who all quit, except GG, within like 2 months--to keep the sane smart people reading and Progressives--including Martin Luther Cream himself--to signal their amazing virtue. So they have like a dozen sane people (who frankly sound like misplaced pedes and probably aren't regular readers) fighting a mountain of crazy coming at every angle.

From the comments, for your pleasure:

OK, suppose Glenn's analysis is correct. What about the 2020 election? Don't you think Trump and his people will try to steal that one? Mueller can't exonerate Trump from future crimes.

Trump propagandists like Barr and Greenwald have subtly shifted from claiming no collusion to claiming that Trump didn't collude in Russian hacking.

Please show us the quote, the exact quote that states “Trump is innocent beyond a reasonable doubt”

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schlongedyoubigly Yesterday

Haha Mueller cant exonerate from future crimes lmao

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mikeleoncraft Yesterday

SS: It's finally over! At least for the sane people who use logic and reasoning to form their arguments and belief systems. For the DNC, the deep state goons, and the corrupt officials that promulgated the Trump-Russia lie the topic is far from dead. Backed into a corner like rabid animal, the MSM and DNC that coordinated this smear campaign will desperately keep flailing until the indictments come to put them in a jail cell.

Glenn Greenwald destroys any last semblance of hope the deep state and their hacks have left.

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ex-wife-karen- Yesterday

Trump is the deepstate you clown

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Balthanos 21 hs ago

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ex-wife-karen- 23 hs ago

Anyone who still unironically believes trump is draining the swamp should hop off the internet and go eat more crayons

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Balthanos 21 hs ago

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Tangent-love FL Yesterday

That is not what /r/retarded is saying.

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gerned Yesterday

If the Democrats go after impeachment, Trump won't have to campaign for 2020.

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s2real 22 hs ago

So let’s not uphold our constitution lest we risk a loss in 2020? GTFOH.

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Nomandate Yesterday

True He’ll already be gone.

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gerned 23 hs ago

Not likely I think

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SisterCovfefe Yesterday

Check out this gem of a comment from Mike5000, who apparently doesn't keep up with world events.

"Trump propagandists like Barr and Greenwald have subtly shifted from claiming no collusion to claiming that Trump didn't collude in Russian hacking.

Of course Trump didn't collude in Russian hacking. Nobody ever though he did. Trump wouldn't know how to use a computer let alone hack one.

What the Trumpies did do is collude with Russia to illegally influence the election in return for changes in US foreign policy."

The Intercept used to have a good comments section. It's corrupted now, like everything else on the Internet.

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stjdalen 1776 Yesterday

'In return for changes in US foreign policy'. That's a good one, bet Putin loves the way Trump is pushing against Russia selling gas to Germany

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hippopoonis Yesterday

Fantastic article. Greenwald is always spot on!

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TriplePrecision Yesterday

Possibly the one redeeming feature of this mess: if Trump wins 2020, blame has to (or should) fall squarely on the liberal Russia Collusion panic. They can't blame Bernie Bros this time.

Oh, who am I kidding, of course they will. They never learn.

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wokeciacoup Yesterday

Kenyan birth certificate for liberals.

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VectorShortcut :flag-us: America Yesterday

It's amazing to me that this sub loved Greenwald for certain revelations about spying ... and now literally believes he's a Russian spy since he doesn't follow the "narrative" in lockstep.

This sub is so fucking toxic, and it's the mods' fault.

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nomad1c Yesterday

the mueller investigation is the trump equivalent of the west wing during gwb (i.e. mostly a coping mechanism to stop libs killing themselves). i don’t know what they’re going to do for the rest of the term

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wokeciacoup Yesterday

Carry on as before by the looks of it.

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Rawhide_Kobayashi 9 hs ago

we want the redacted report!

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LoganFuture23 Yesterday

Not really. That’s way overstated. He said there wasn’t sufficient finding of criminal conspiracy to hack the DNC. Plenty of collusion findings which weren’t criminal. Plenty of shady stuff that warrants further investigation..

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Pyehole Yesterday

I admire not only his integrity and thirst for the truth but I also really admire his writing, the way he communicates his thinking.

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moddestmouse Yesterday

how could anyone think this guy was competent enough to even pull off basic collusion.

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jtipsw02 ARMY Yesterday

Excellent read, and fantastic analysis. Thank you for posting this!

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poopiemess 9 hs ago

LN penalty is part of the LN node and doesn't need a watchtower. I didn't quite get that from your post.

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szechuan_anon 13 hs ago

Good work! You can locate comments! Can you actually dispute that the comment is incorrect? LN is not holding value, it is a failed endeavor.

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szechuan_anon 14 hs ago

TLDR: it doesn't. The end

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flowbrother 13 hs ago

Fools will be fools when the weight of their bcash bags keeps them believing and repeating the same tired corporate narratives that landed those heavy bags on them in the first place. At 97% down, wouldn't it be a good time to take stock of your beliefs and whether they are valid or not?

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szechuan_anon 13 hs ago

Lol, yes! My bag is less than 3% bch, but keep on making your assumptions. But is it also 0% btc, which survives on name brand recognition alone, not a functional product. The levee will break sooner or later.

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lobt 13 hs ago

Nice try, bcasher: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/bf58dh/finally_banned_from_rbitcoin_for_saying_i/elb7n5o/

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cointastical 17 hs ago

"A great overview of #LN and an insightful dive into the design concerns - with some politics thrown in #blockhain #gametheory #consensus #networks "

https://twitter.com/BitcoinUKmedia/status/1119336545369112576

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cointastical 17 hs ago

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dietrolldietroll 10 hs ago

A New Approach to Trust

A trustless derivative contract allows bitcoin collateral to be posted by both parties and locked in a 2-of-2 multisignature smart contract until its maturity date, when it is automatically disbursed using signatures from the participants and a trusted price feed oracle.

Crypto Garage’s implementation on Bitcoin is based on Trustless Forward Contracts, first proposed by Yutaka Nakasone from Crypto Garage. It incentivizes both parties to act truthfully with their signature; if one party tries to cheat, their entire collateral is at risk.

To begin the transaction, party A and party B post the maximum profit and loss exposure they each hold for the trade. All possible outcomes of the contract are then pre-generated as partial transactions, known as Contract Execution Transactions (CETx). When the maturity date arrives, the oracle broadcasts the spot price of BTCUSD with its signature, and either party A or party B sends a signature to the corresponding CETx.

Once the signature is received and matches the oracle’s signature, the settlement is complete. If one counterparty attempts to broadcast a false narrative that differs from the rate quoted by the oracle, that counterparty loses all of its collateral to the honest (or slower) counterparty. To incentivize a prompt closeout, if neither counterparty signs on the maturity date, the transaction enters a “delayed” state and the party that realizes first can sign to withdraw the entire collateral.

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nullc 10 hs ago

I found myself rather confused reading this post, but then someone on IRC linked to: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1119363309109678080

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