The LLC idea is interesting... has anyone done this?

I wonder how he gets those prepaid cards. I thought they were banned post 9/11 to stop terrorist financing / money laundering

And then had an article about him published in the N.Y. Times. What about when his new identity needs to vanish? And will he stop evangelizing bitcoin?

The revision at the end of the article is lol worthy

Top 5 Ways to Keep All Your Shit Private

by Jameson Loopnutz

1. Never leave the basement without first dressing up to look like Balin from The Hobbit
2. Work for a shitty bitcoin company with your face on the public About Us page
3. Tell your mom to stop giving out your phone number
4. Have a public twitter you obsessively post to like this: https://twitter.com/lopp
5. Have someone write a public article detailing all the stupid ways you "keep your shit private"

he declined to comment on whether he has a significant other living with him.

when he ventures out he wears sunglasses and a hat.

He used to have a big, easily noticed beard

I'm sure this guy is normal, but these lines make him sound like a neckbeard.

The benefit of being your own bank is that a bank robber comes after you instead of a bank's vault.

Lol.

You used the word incognito. That refers to Chrome? You want to be private, yet you use a Google product?

No more smart phones. Burner dumb phones are the height of fashion. Use a service to generate throwaway phone numbers. Use it once then discard the number and get a new one.

Use a fake name when speaking to anybody new.

Use a remailing service out of Vegas.

Switch to Linux; and if you can stand the learning curve, TAILS. Switch to Tor browser. Use end to end encrypted private email. Add a VPN out of Panamá and choose a server so your exit point is outside the US, and spoof your MAC ID of your network card. And don't communicate across any of the "Fourteen Eyes" countries.

That's the beginning; there is so much more.l The more I learn about the powers of the surveillance state the more incredulous I become how their tentacles reach into every known crevice, thwarting our puny efforts.

I can do all the tech stuff in the article basically nearly for free aside from buying the initial hardware. (GPS system for the car, not linked to identity and not using Phone GPS/maps, is a great idea.)

But $30,000 + two houses + new car... ehh. The "new corporate identity" L.L.C. seems to go too far - at least for me. I have a job where I can't work remotely. Not to mention needing accurate personal tax information. And what about using your name and insurance info at a hospital near where you live if you ever get sick? A beard and pseudonyms won't cut it there. It just gets way too complicated.

The comfort v. privacy argument is a scale. This guy went way far on the privacy side, which I enjoy to a certain extent. Unfortunately it's just not feasible to try and emulate for most people that need to actually function in this society.

You'd think at some point, when doing all this pointless shit, you'd have a lightbulb moment and think "hang on, this is completely fucking mental, why don't I just live a normal life like everyone else?"

To scare off future attackers, Mr. Lopp quickly posted a video on Twitter of himself firing off his AR-15 rifle.

Lol these guys.

The free market doesn't permit fraud and theft

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I remember when he got swatted in Durham. I think it's really interesting that there still exists an approach to hide yourself from others. On government surveillance, /u/Faceh it looks like there isn't much information leakage. As a purely passive dragnet, how do you think the state could surveil him? His DMV address doesn't help, and his mailing address is only available at a repackaging service, and his mailing address doesn't go to the his house anyway. They'd have to deliberately follow him from the private mailbox to his home. Active surveillance is almost impossible to overcome anyway if done by a state actor. But at least he made it relatively expensive.

This also brings up side effects of a crypto-anarchist paradise; if transactions are untraceable, then the consequences of extorting someone are low. Might as well try if you find out someone has lots of Bitcoin. Interestingly, I wouldn't say the consequences are low today. What happened to Lopp doesn't seem like a great get rich quick scheme. The SWAT could have literally killed him, which wouldn't have gotten anyone any extortion money. Additionally, Lopp has made is very clear with this interview that he does not negotiate with extortionists, and that wouldn't have been tough to guess; Bitcoin programmers of all people would know about game theory. And I don't know what precautions the extortionist took to hide their phone number when they called in the SWAT. Any slip up and they could have been arrested. So low payoff, low chance of being caught, but massive consequences if caught. It doesn't seem like a good idea.

I wonder if instead it was just some crazy person upset at Bitcoin infighting who tried to SWAT him, no real thought out extortion plan.

very nice.

And all it cost him was two new houses and new car.

The sad thing about this setup, it probably isn't doing much to protect him from government surveillance, I'm sure there are multiple state-run databases that already have his location pinpointed should it be needed.

Likewise, as soon as one person or group finally IDs his current whereabouts and residence, that information can be shared with the world instantaneously, necessitating another move. Ideally, he'd be moving his residence every six months or so, and would have multiple residences available at once so he can throw people further off his trail.

Or he could have gone the extra mile like that other guy and built himself a completely new residence on some undisclosed location at sea!

I sincerely doubt that there are many corporations that would find it worthwhile to track him down for the sole purpose of advertising to him, but if only ONE of them does so, his info will likely be sold to all the others with time. Information wants to be free.

All in all, though, this is a viable model for those who want to escape the all-seeing-eye without going full Unabomber.

Good for Jameson. Hope it works out well for him.

Edit: Made the mistake of looking at the comments at the NYT. I sometimes wonder what sort of person still regularly reads such a parody of serious journalism; the comments were a painful reminder of just how many uninformed/misinformed idiots there are out there.

I love how bitcoin wasn’t a solution in any of the numerous steps. Mass adoption soon?

A few questions if anyone could answer please.

1. Which prepaid debit cards allow you to remove your name from the physical card?
2. Which phone service allows you to generate a new number every time
3. Which remailer service is recommended?
4. What’s the best encryption program out there currently?

Thanks everyone

http://archivecaslytosk.onion/N4kps

https://archive.is/N4kps

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

Nah, only one step. Be rich.

One important question. How does Lopp handle his tax return? All this sneaking around better stop with the IRS - or they will find you and take a piece of your ass?

Mr. Lopp estimates that his efforts to disappear have cost him about $30,000.

How did he manage to pay the house fully without mortgage and even a second house for that amount of money?

Mr. Lopp, a self-described libertarian who works for a Bitcoin security company, had long been obsessed with the value of privacy

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He also had to get rid of vanity license plates that said BITCOIN.

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As cancerous as 4chan is, this breach of net neutrality is completely fucking unacceptable.

I am genuinely surprised and happy with reddit's reaction to censorship. I honestly thought you guys would be pro-censorship to things that you don't agree with.

Never go full china...

News sites have been reporting the shooting days before it happened. We are gathering evidence on neinchan

https://neinchan.com/pol/res/4188.html

NEINCHAN IS NOT BLOCKED.

Funny, I hadn't yet seen the shooters face until just now when I read this article about blocking access to info related to the shooter.

I feel like I've been moved into an alternate universe.

Is this the same Reddit where a few weeks ago people were posting photos of the Tiananmen Square massacre in anticipation and protest of increased censorship?

I may not use those website but I'm thoroughly pissed that ISPs think they have a right to tell me what sites I can and cant access.

It feels like I'm watching the beginning of a frightening level of control and censorship in this country and sadly we as a people in this nation aren't the sort who are gonna stand up against it.

Mad as hell!!

This is way over the fucking line.

I don't visit those places but if you're going to ban public spaces because they have people who say things you don't like then you better start banning all social networks.

The fucking video was live-streamed on Facebook and that gets a free pass. Because why? Because Facebook has money and 4chan doesn't?

What a crock of shit. Australian's pearl-clutching censorship bullshit really has to get the fuck out.

This is why we need net neutrality. Don't know why so many people were cheering for it when it was removed in USA, we see now what it can lead to in other countries that have no net neutrality. Let's hope ISPs in America don't follow because if they do there isn't much we can do to stop them.

Aussies and Kiwis losing their goddamn minds down there. Viciously murder some people in a hate crime and the terrified government will throw foundational principles of democracy in a dumpster, apparently.

Granted, we learned that when my country responded to our own gruesome attack with such lovely things as the Patriot Act and an unending meatgrinder of a war in the Middle East regions. But we're supposed to be the dumb ones, I thought.

Banning scum like those sites can't be a bad thing. Make it permanent.

I understand the reasoning behind it, but we're fucking adults here... (those that are of age/adults, otherwise it's the parent's job to not allow their children to see mature content). If someone wants to look at something, let them. I'm probably going to get down-voted, but I feel like this is such "nanny state" style governing. Preface this by saying Murica is no Angel... but I feel like at least in terms of freedoms... they're really good in terms of letting people do what they want (as long as it's legal).

Why isnt facebook on this list?

So they punished everyone on the actions of one man?
Seems reasonable.

This is the wrong answer regardless of what happens censorship is a dangerous road to go down

The guy who did this would have done this regardless of 4chan he just used that as a excuse if not 4chan it would have been religion or some other crazy justification history has shown time and time again there will always be violent people

God damn 4chan and their people talking about a video streamed on Facebook...

Australia needs some net neutrality.

so they want to play wack a mole

Problem Reaction Solution

Well it’s on dtube so

I find hollow the claims of people who say they live in a "free" country - when their access to weapons and information is severely limited by a paternalistic government. How would they even know they were free?

I will take free speech over this solution.

How brainwashed do you have to be to still believe you have more freedoms than Americans after this?

b-b-but this list says so!

Very sad to see the free speech in jeopardy. 4CHAN and 8CHAN, you may not agree with what they say, however you should support their inalienable right to free speech.

Not sure how they drive this theory.

If they are not securities why are some people paying taxes on them?

SEC- "we dont consider crypto as a security"

IRS- "we consider crypto currency taxable income"

USA- 'we need money to pay them '

How does this affect taxes? Does this mean crypto trades are considered like-kind exchanges with regards to taxable events?

- related news release via Cryptoslate ...

tl:dr anyone? thanks

If they are not securities why are some people paying taxes on them?

SEC- "we dont consider crypto as a security"

IRS- "we consider crypto currency taxable income"

USA- 'we need money to pay them ^'

So does this mean we won’t have to pay taxes for each crypto transaction in the future?

Nice, anyone have a non crypto news source?

What does that mean? That they wont be taxed the same way that stocks are taxed?

On a related point, the swap raises an interesting question - is Kin going to try and argue Kin 3 is a new and different token, and that Kin 1 which is the target of the SEC has been burned? They make no mention at all of the distinction between chains in their response. It might be a bit of a stretch given the 1:1 conversion but it is technically a different token.

no shit. it represents no stake in profits or control over the protocol?

​

cryptocurrencies are "digital beanie babies"

Finally some good news from the SEC

The issue the SEC is going to have will be with KIK and Ted's comments he made almost a year ago which the SEC can use against him. We'll see... He got himself in a jam to make the KIK/KIN deal happen... I was going to write Hester P. but in light of what Ted said, I put my energy elsewhere. With that said all is not lost. KIN will be ok.

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.......BULLISH AF!

I dont see that. What I see is just avoiding answering anything.

So everyone is ignoring this part?

Without ever mentioning ETH directly, Clayton stated that he had been asked if he agrees “with certain statements concerning digital tokens in Director Hinman's June 2018 speech.” Here is his statement:

“I agree with Director Hinman's explanation of how a digital asset transaction may no longer represent an investment contract [a security] if, for example, purchasers would no longer reasonably expect a person or group to carry out the essential managerial or entrepreneurial efforts.”

Edit: not saying ETH is a security, just kind of a misleading title...like S10's having wallet out the gate and every other crypto headline...not being an ETH hater, just a realist.

Just fuck off with this already, that's 2018 discussion. Fuck SEC, focus on the tech ( which keeps evolving ). SEC have to adapt to it, not the other way around.

It'd be pretty foolish to consider cryptos securities. Their analog is more equivalent to currencies where you can exchange them for a service or something.

A security is defined as a financial asset which in turn is defined as non physical contractual claims. Having hundreds of ETH doesn't give you any contractual obligations to any derived claims (like bonds, bank deposit, or stocks do). A crypto contract on the other hand is a different story and might be considered a security (since there is some contractual obligations to receive some specified amounts of that coin)

Edit: forgot an important part of the definition of a security: the financial asset must be tradable

ELI5 please

Soo, what do I do now? I paid quite a bit in taxes for my 2017 gains and claimed a lot for my 2018 losses

meanwhile there's gonna be 2-3% gains in $ETH , moon?

The plaintiff in the Tezos law suit has been axed for his conflicting behavior to his claim against the project and it's creators. He alleged Tezos fund raiser (donation) violated securities regulation. Since he's gone, the next plaintiff in line is able to step forward to carry the class action, interestingly has not named sale of securities in their claim. It may not be decided by a judge, but who knows. I'm not a lawyer, just my opinion.

Narrator - "He didn't"

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Follow this real life lawyer Stephen Palley if you want real takes on legal settlements.

https://twitter.com/stephendpalley

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He's often talking with Vlad Zamfir and other famous crypto names. Great source of info from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.

Will tezos baking award function has to do with being securities or not?

I don't think this is that significant - no one really doubted that this was the SEC's position - people like Hinman don't go rogue. The question is and always was whether Kin can decentralize quickly enough (while controlling almost all the supply) and how harsh will the penalties be for the ICO, which is in the past and can't be fixed.

https://www.blockchain.com/en/charts/transactions-per-second

BTC is already at 3-5tps. BTC is going to collapse at only 7tps.

By design, while in beta you arent able to open channels larger than 0.16 btc to prevent any losses in case of bugs. So naturally while the torch gets bigger and closer to the .16 btc limit one needs to open a new channel to send the torch. When the .16 btc limit is removed and the fear of bugs is gone you will see many large channels being opened across the network.

Whenever I hear about payment channels I say no thanks, not interested. Pieter Wuille was noting how unreliable LN is. Inferior.

"#LNTrustChain was designed as a social experiment – but due to overwhelming success, it turned into a stress test of channel liquidity,”

What a fucking joke - they've done <100 transactions with that torch!

NO WAI!

Man. Reading about how many hoops you have to jump through just to use bitcoin/LN always reaffirms my belief in Nano.

Can you open a channel that anyone can use? Or does it have to be between two parties? Like if setup a lighting node and set it to "open" people will be able to utilize it and i get a portion of transaction fees?

Won't Nano have to do some sort of sharding if reaches mass adoption? There is a big limit to scalability otherwise right? If every node had to keep track of every transaction.

Not Winning 🤷‍♂️

Oh, so basically, the larger the value "transferred," the more you have to rely on monolithic entities with enough liquidity to "enable" the "transfer?"

Does that sound like any other system that's currently in use?

Does that sounds like permissionless, uncensorable, peer to peer electronic cash that allows the instantaneous transfer of as much value as necessary at any given time?

Looking forward to when LN enables larger payments, though at the moment instant micropayments are pretty cool!

nonsense, if you can't find a route, you open a new and big enough channel.

&#x200B;

Of course atomic multipath would also solve it.

Is representative of his short vision of the future

the Lightning Torch is becoming too large for the network now that it contains $150

another nice quote from TFA

This problem goes to the foundations of the lightning network: channels.

Tldr: “[The torch] does show that AMP is definitely something we need already.”

Thanks for sharing! I responded to @Coindesk's tweet on this article. Self marketing! :)

I didn't realize it was only $150 ( ₿.038) - kind of assumed it was already into wumbo territory.

Oops! It's kind of funny in an ironic way. No one tell Tone Vays.

From the moment that LN performs off-chain it is no longer relevant. Those who support LN I recommend that you use PayPal.

Its doing rather well for something that's supposed to be for 'micro-payments'

Boolish

cool, they use coinify.

but what the hell is this shit?

Was ist der Mindestbetrag, um mit Kryptos zu bezahlen? 200 Franken. Mit diesem Mindestbestellwert werde die Wahrscheinlichkeit einer schnellen Zahlungsbestätigung erhöht, sagt Digitec-Galaxus-Sprecher Alex Hämmerli.

There's a minimum payment amount of 200 SFR (200 USD). Reason? In order to "increase the probability of fast confirmation".

What on earth? Is this a reaction to BTCs high fees? If so this pisses me off and should only be the case for BTC, not the altcoins which don't suffer this problem.

What do we want? Adoption! When do we want it? Last year!

This is legit! Who is the payment processor?

Minimum value to pay with Crypto is 200 Franken. But with the insane prices in Switzerland this is probably a small value.

... and who thinks they gonna hodl all these (shit)coins after the transaction?

Are small purchases with crypto exempt from capital gains taxes in Switzerland? Can't see this going anywhere if people need to update their Excel sheets every time they buy something.

So what happens when we have still but mining isn't profitable?

Is it really adoption when they don't even touch it? You pay an middle man with your crypto who exchange it to fiat for them.

Not using Nano?

The retailer does not accept crypto currencies.

He added a payment processing service that accepts crypto.

There are zero advantages in using crypto this way. Which is not surprising, cause it's the same fucking principle as we already have it, i.e. a centralized entity handling my transactions. Just with bad UX.

It's nothing but a PR stunt, will have very little users, little growth and thus be abandoned in say 1-2 years.

Same story as with all those businesses who accepted crypto before. And then abandoned it again, cause no one uses it.

Check also this new from Finland:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/b2xd5j/adoption_one_of_the_finlands_biggest_mobile_phone/

Bullish

Yes !!!

Will they also be accepting magic beans?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/b2ux41/switzerlands_biggest_online_retailer_starts/

if i got 1 bitcoin on every time i heard adoption is coming in the last two year, i would hold the same amount of bitcoins as satoshi

Actually largest e-commerce store in Switzerland with 2.7mm+ products

Hell yeah bro this is sikkkkk dude

well, to be honest it is accepting:

Bitcoin (BTC) Bitcoin Cash (BCH) Bitcoin SV (BSV) Ethereum (ETH) Ripple (XRP) Binance Coin (BNB) Litecoin (LTC) TRON (TRX) OmiseGo (OMG) NEO (NEO)

and all of them through a payment society, so they are still getting paid in swiss francs at the end of the day...

Full list:

• Bitcoin (BTC)
• Bitcoin Cash (BCH)
• Bitcoin SV (BSV)
• Ethereum (ETH)
• Ripple (XRP)
• Binance Coin (BNB)
• Litecoin (LTC)
• TRON (TRX)
• OmiseGo (OMG)
• NEO (NEO)

The article also mentions that the other coins (non-BTC) are so called "altcoins". 🤷‍♂️

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/u/tippr $0.25

Definitely nice to have, but they use Coinify for the transactions so you pay a 1.5% service fee. It would be even better if they would use an own wallet.

Hahahaha 😂

Nano should get added to the list

The photos are so good they probably would have been better off skimming from normal old-fashioned atms lol.

So is this an actual vulnerability? I thought it would be immune to something like this

This is good for LN. For real, ATMs are a really good LN use case.

Let's be clear here, and use /r/Bitcoin terminology for what happened here.

1. No money has been stolen. People with Bitcoin in their wallets initiated a trade of their Bitcoin to the machine and the machine completed the transaction, handing these people the money before confirming the transaction.
2. The people then initiated a side-Bitcoin transaction to move their coins to a different wallet, thus making their Bitcoins unavailable for the transaction in step 1.

No money was "stolen". In reality terms, Bitcoin was stolen. Naturally, that should also answer the question as to whether the ATM company would be insured for this kind of loss (big, fat, LOL-worthy "nope").

Now, to put in the perspective of your average /r/Bitcoin user, this is actually a much clearer situation. ATM company idiots put Bitcoin machines out to willingly hand real money to people in exchange for unconfirmed Bitcoin transactions. That's the exchange that actually happened here. Hopefully, as every /r/Bitcoin user will tell you, the ATM company will have learned their lesson. Hopefully they will also purchase more Bitcoin to replace their stolen Bitcoin (not money).

Make a transaction with low tx fees so it gets delayed. Send another transaction from the same address (tx in the case of bitcoin) but with higher tx fees that you send to yourself. Make sure to drain all the funds in the secondary transaction. Transaction 2 runs before transaction 1 thanks to higher fees, as long as no block is produced between the 2 transaction propagations.

"Peter Todd’s replace-by-fee tools would make these transactions possible."

• https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-atm-double-spenders-police-need-help-identifying-four-criminals

Zeroconf transactions are not protected from doublespending, regardless of how many miners implement RBF.

There is no evidence in either article describing that either of the two forms of RBF was relevant in these doublespending attacks.

More info on RBF:

• https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_replacement

Seems like the ATMs were accepting zero confirmation transactions, not good.

This is on the ATM operator, imo. dispensing large amounts of cash with less than 6 confirmations is incredibly dumb, full stop. Hopefully this is just an expensive lesson and not something that puts them out of business.

You would like to think that a high tech niche would not be so crowded with amateurs.

They were https://bitcoinatm.com/#satoshi1box

from https://www.badgercoin.com/about

They shouldn’t be liable for terrible technology...

This is good for BitCoin.

Well, the last dude’s obviously in a ZZ Top cover band, so that narrows it down.

Dude at the end looks like Rob Zombie. I guess Halloween 5 isn't doing so hot

I feel this will kill the scam ATMs.

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Someone posted a stolen bitcoin ATM a few days ago with phrase you cannot steal the bitcoins from the machine. But, a bunch of people where saying you could probably steal a ton of money from these machines.

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If you stole a machine, paid a ton of money into it, then open the machine up to get the money. Then, you could steal the bitcoin from the machine.

For the ATMs they used, how many transaction confirmations do they require? No one could seriously be dumb enough to provide cash withdrawals on zero-conf transactions, right? Right? Because you could just, I dunno, broadcast a competing transaction with a high fee.

CODE IS LOL.

aw what the fuck how can they use state authorities! no fair

finally a good use for these ATM's!

Maybe we need professional PR firms selling BTC every which way: through logic, through sex imagery, by getting it mentioned in movies.

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Police believe suspects committed “double-spend” attacks, in which a person withdraws money from a bitcoin kiosk and then remotely cancels the transaction before the kiosk company can process the withdrawal.

Looks as if the ATMs do not use proper, safe bitcoin transactions. I have always wondered how an ATM can do it, because a bitcoin blockchain transaction can take any time, sometimes an hour and more. There is no completely reliable way to speed it up.

I think, ATMs will only work safely when they use the Lightning Network for fast transactions.

World: "Bitcoin is the future".

Me: Laughs in common sense.

Now, what ATM manufacturer is considering RBF (Replace by fee) transactions as any safe?

My wild guess is they should be the one responsible to cover this lost to the operator.

Edit: Was GenesisCoin https://bitcoinatm.com/#satoshi1box

Police believe suspects committed “double-spend” attacks, in which a person withdraws money from a bitcoin kiosk and then remotely cancels the transaction before the kiosk company can process the withdrawal.

This sounds like a serious flaw in the way these ATMs work. Are all bitcoin ATMs like this?

The details are very scarce, but based on the article:

in which a person withdraws money from a bitcoin kiosk and then remotely cancels the transaction before the kiosk company can process the withdrawal.

It sounds like they were accepting BTC as 0-conf, and almost certainly without RBF checks.

I could be mistaken. Just my "hot take".

Kim Jong-Un stole my bitcoin! I'm gonna get that bastard!

Do you mean to say "and other cryptocurrancies"? Cuz if thats all they have in all currencies total, thats a bit shocking

All stolen I am assuming.

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It seems they are targeting Chinese government websites now... https://news.8btc.com/suspected-north-korea-hackers-are-targeting-chinese-government-websites-for-crypto-ransom

Now, that's interesting! Well, huge amount of news concerning north korea are fake, or fetched (so better watch out) but looking at the source of that info, it seems fine for me. Wonder how many FuturoCoin they have ;d

Kimmie is smart loL :P

When world goes full crypto, NK will be a superpower with that much money. The last countries that adopts cryptos will be the poorest.

CRAZY THIS GUY IS SO CELVER - HE KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS

Bitcoin - totalitarian killers fave medium of exchange.

So I guess North Korea is the United States of America of the not-so-distant future then? That's weird.

Except I think America holds far more than that. Japan certainly does, as does South Korea.

This is a global thing. Chicago yard ball ain't gonna cut it in this market.

Wakanda 2151

Omg the bitcoin citadel guy was right. North Korea will be the richest nation.

2003 - Iraq war reason - "they possess nuclear weapon"

2020 - North Korea war reason - "they possess bitcon"

D

How did the UN security council verify this?

We need to ban all the currencies North Korea holds!!!!!

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What's that most of it is US Dollars and Euros.....

edit...

We need to ban bitcoin!!!

I'm conflicted now...now i should hope BTC crashes to ruin north korea?

BTC cold war incoming

NK so behind the times. Bitcoin is more of an actual currency than investment now.

No wonder the U.S. has been making more of an effort to build relations with them.

See? Bitcoin is good for something after all... supporting communism, imperialism, human rights abuses, and slavery. You are holding tools of slavery in your nano wallets.

If NK keeps accumulating BTC, it will be hilarious when one day NK is richer than the central banks of all the world powers. Heh, maybe it will be dangerous, but I can’t keep from feeling warm and fuzzy when I think about it.

Welcome to hodl gang Kim.

UTXOs or GTFO

Honestly im glad to see both sides of the aisle fostering a healthy scepticism of tech giants

F* Zuckerberg in his puckered C**. Left Facebook a good five years ago and I haven’t missed it. Reddits enough for relevant news and chitchat and Gab satisfies my desire to scream. Then GaltsGulchOnline for my need to debate thinkers.

Clickbait, the ad was taken down because they broke Facebook TOS, you are not allowed to have an advertisement with the Facebook logo on it. This is not some political move

I think they did this on purpose, hoping it would be taken down so she could play “progressive firebrand”.

It's like the Jews having to pay to post anti-holocaust adds in the Berlin Times circa 1943...It's just not right that these platforms control speech.

beep boop

this title looks like it was made by a robojournalist

we have to go deeper

the article is about robojournalism

I work in advertising, everyone knows that facebook is incredibly protective of their logo, they have very strict usage guidelines. Whoever is responsible for those ads must have known they would be taken down.

No need to break it up . . . it looks like it's going the way of MySpace.

Locked because this post has been linked on another sub and brigaded.

Lizzy, how do you plan on becoming president with Facebook and Google against you? Regulating tech giants is something you only get to try in the second term of a presidency.

Fundamentally, I don't have an issue with breaking up Amazon, Google or Facebook.

They're so vast and huge that they, essentially, have the power of a nation-state at this point. Google has its little sneaky fingers in a million different pies, having long ago abandoned any pretense at its old motto.

Sounds dumb AF. Facebook doesn't even sell information. You can use DuckDuck go right the fuck now if you don't like Google. Amazon on the hand is egregious and needs to be stopped.

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“We removed the ads because they violated our policies against use of our corporate logo,"

Having run plenty of FB/IG ads for dozens of clients, having the FB logo in the display ad is a big no-no. I've seen multiple client accounts get disabled due to the display images, mostly due to FBs algo that detects copyright images.

Warren's media team should be more careful and familiarize themselves with policies even local restaurants have to abide by (HIRE ME).

It’s funny how quickly they can get on this but they have trouble taking down content related to:

Encouraging violence against people

Anti vaccination propaganda

Illicit pornography

Hate speech

You know...actual problems

I really really like Elizabeth Warren

This does not prove Facebook needs to be broken up. It proves that no one should be using Facebook.

BREAKING: business rightfully eliminates content that directly affects their money

"The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house."

Right, and she also wants to break up Apple because they make $25 billion per year and run a marketplace that they distribute their own apps in.

I usually like Warren but she’s gone a bit nutty with this.

Fun fact: Facebook will not allow me to post this article on Facebook.

So when Alex Jones is deplatformed it's "lol private companies can do whatever they want"... but when Warren is censored it's "omg facebook? More like fascistbook!"

Can't have it both ways

as expected

I don't see the controversy over this. Why would a company host advertisements advocating for it's destruction?

Wow how could Facebook be so racist against native Indians, how dare they treat her like that

Coinbase ending with users, nothing to do there anymore

Literally the only reason I use Coinbase is for their 0% maker fees.......

SEPA deposits are still insanely cheap though so hopefully they don't increase the fee on that also....

This changes my scalping strategy that does well over 50x over 60 days and now the same strategy makes only 3.3x in 60 days. There will be lots of folks leaving. Every trade loses .3% automatically, meaning you have to sell at a higher price just to break even. Although this was true of other exchanges, a little more time to react would have been nice.

"New fee structure that is designed to increase liquidity by reducing the delta between maker and taker fees"

And the fee table actually shows maker fees up.

I really want to know what their definition of liquidity is.

If increasing liquidity was the real goal, then liquidity on both sides would be enhanced by keeping taker fees where they are and reducing maker fees to a point where there would be a rebate for maker flow, like on other exchanges.

This is a thinly disguised backtrack from the no maker fee premise that other crypto exchanges did not match and so Coinbase realized they were leaving money on the table fixed the problem.

Isn’t liquidity higher without a maker fee?

Oh well that sucks

Fees on coinbase now even higher hah

Imagine how many videos are on YouTube explaining how to avoid fees on CB Pro. A lot of noobs will watch them, thinking they are smart & wont even notice the new fees eating their money.

"something something...nano is feeless"

Besides taxing the poor, I think a lot of this is to prevent excessive volatility from the OTC market.

Death of Coinbase as a whole!

Yikes! Is there a reputable alternative that offers free maker orders?

50M volume for not paying market fee fuck that. bfx/kraken/poloniex all don't take fee if you trade more than 7-10M as maker

Damn, no more flash crashes or chances to pick up insanely cheap ETH lol

Turning off stop market orders

holy shit fuck off

Why anybody still uses them is beyond me.

This is going to be an outstanding way for Coinbase to completely fuck itself and watch a massive number of people bail to Binance.

Some of us have been trading large amounts on Coinbase and avoiding Binance because of the fees even though they’re incredibly small with BNB.

Now we have no motivation to stay with Coinbase, and will be glad to take the tiny fees on Binance with the massive volume they offer.

Goodbye Coinbase. And your IRS reporting as well. Your volume is already pretty shitty. It’s about to drop 50%. That’s why you had free trading remember?

New strategy opens up for a competitor to take a chunk of their marketshare.

I don’t understand the 30 day volume chart for fees. Does coinbase take the max fee all the time and then refund the user after 30 days depending on how much they traded?

Or

Is it like tax brackets where you pay certain fees until you hit the threshold to now start paying the new percent?

I love Coinbase, but my dollar cost averaging will suffer - anyone else aware of a fiat on-ramp with 0 maker fees?

Bittrex cancelled market orders too after 2017 bull run. After that, the exchange became ghost town. RIP Bittrex. Once it was the Number 1 exchange.

well for this month coinsmart has 0% deposits and reduced fees on everything else!! just a heads up

With Nash getting ready to launch?

That's a bold move, Cotton.

And there goes the only reason I still used them.

Dose this effect limit orders which are 0% fee so far.

Sounds a little like "Blockbuster seeks product manager for streaming/torrent team"

Anyone have an idea of what a job like this pays?

Wonder if this is part of that whole Earthport acquisition is partially involved with all this.

I’m actually an investor of EarthPort and was pleasantly surprised of Visa and Mastercard having a mild bidding war against it.

I initially invested in April last year, and more than benefited on the investment. I’m still holding until I fall under long term capital gains.

Wonder if this is part of that whole Earthport acquisition is partially involved with all this.

👍

We bull now

Meanwhile we are all dumping our money into cryptos thinking the system would allow for us plebs to get a head start on such a world changing tech. The cryptos we have now were probably all just tests for when these big corps and banks start their own and wipe out the cryptos we know today. MFW I just put another $300 into a corporate test platform

hipocryts

another bullish af proof of adoption. i hope the bear continues though.... maybe suppress this intel lmao

I've decided I'm overqualified for the position.

Also, I have a soul.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ccn.com/visa-acquires-ripple-partner-earthport-for-250-million/amp

Visa's been buying out Ripple partners who utilise xrp

Did you know that DARB matching engine is capable of sustaining 3,700,000 orders per second, where for example Visa have 1667 and MasterCard 5000+.. That makes Darb Finance one of the fastest exchanges on the planet. You can be certain, that your orders will never be stuck due to the matching engine overload never again.

I have worked at Visa for a significant amount of time. They move slow af with dinosaur minded management. They are too comfortable with the traditional business that prints money. Dont get excited about this role, it wont lead to much. Even if it does, it wont be in time.

Visa and mastercard filed crypto patents in 2014. Lets not pretend like they don't have the finger on the pulse and knew about all of this before 99.9% of us.

This sentence must have gotten some executive hard as a rock.

" Keep up with cutting edge technology especially open source projects, and strive to contribute to Visa’s IP portfolio "

&#x200B;

It may as well read as "Steal ideas and techniques from open source projects so that we can implement them into our own private solutions and then copyright them"

looks fake

Wtf.. yuge

Nice catch man.

Virus is spreading.

Ooooo they shaking..

Interesting thanks

Booooooom

First they mock you

Great. I hope they work on getting crypto.com's Visa card out soon™

3+ years of product management experience, and "Possess significant functional knowledge of the cryptocurrency ecosystem and players involved, including in-depth knowledge around permissionless blockchain technology"

Finding people in product management is hard enough, let alone one with in-depth blockchain experience. Also whoever has this background could easily get equity if they join a ICO backed startup, instead of a 9-5 grind at Visa which probably pays a lot less. It's just a lose-lose job.

Let's hope its not Roger Ver....

You're all missing the point of him including this on his platform. It's included as feel-good fluff to get him elected. If he does get elected, he'll do absolutely zero to see that it happens (not that I think it's a good idea in the first place).

Can the government just stay out of it? Waste of tax dollars for them to be fucking around with the NCAA like that.

1. Who?

2. Glad to see him tackling the important issues.

3. No seriously, who?

To be fair, there literally is not a person he doesn't want to give money to.

Where the fuck does this guy think all of this money is gonna come from?

This will KILL small ncaa sports like soccer or swimming.

Just allow them to benefit off their image. That solves that. Next?

Isn’t a free education their payment?

I’m sorry but that’s so stupid

His big platform is Universal basic income...so he wants to pay errrrbody

The moment that passes is the moment college sports cease to be college sports. You're just creating a semi pro league and then the next push will be to pay high school and juco players.

Even if the NCAA made it legal to pay players, lets not act like they wouldnt still slip them money ontop of that to beat out other schools since there would most definitely be a cap.