Hillary Clinton blasts Sen. Bernie Sanders in a new documentary, saying "nobody likes him" and telling The Hollywood Reporter that she won't commit to endorsing and campaigning for him if he's the Democratic 2020 nominee.
RT @DrJillStein: HRC refuses to say she'll back Bernie if nominated - no matter that he campaigned hard for her. "Vote blue no matter who" is a scam for Dem elites to demand loyalty they won't return. #RankedChoiceVoting will break the 2-party death trap and free you to vote for what you want! https://t.co/BlXKr0zLCj
If you talk to Trump supporters, make sure to mention this. I've flipped a few people in the past few days just by telling people that Hillary hates Bernie and that must mean Bernie is good. I mention that he might release her emails and all of a sudden you've made a Bernie supporter out of a Trump supporter. It's astounding how easily manipulated they are. They hate Hillary so much, they'll literally vote for a socialist if they know Hillary doesn't want them to.
You have to like Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is more than a president. She is an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself.
When people told me they hated Hillary Clinton or (far worse) that they were "not fans," I wish I had said in no uncertain terms: "I love Hillary Clinton. I am in awe of her. I am set free by her. She will be the finest world leader our galaxy has ever seen."
I wish, in those exchanges, I had not asked gentle, tolerant questions about a hater's ridiculous allergy to her, or Clinton's fictional misdeeds and imagined character flaws. More deeply still, I wish I had not reasoned with anyone, patiently countered their ludicrous emotionalism and psychologically disturbed theories. I wish I had said, flatly, "I love her." As if I had been asked about my mother or daughter. No defensiveness or polemics; not dignifying the crazy allegations with so much as a Snopes link.
Maybe "I love her" seemed too womany, too sentimental, too un-pragmatic. Not coalition-building, kind of culty. But people say with impunity they love Obama, the state of Israel, their churches, Kurt Cobain. In the end, I wish I'd said it because it's true.
And I'm not alone in my commitment. Millions of Clinton's supporters — we were thanked by Clinton as the "secret, private Facebook sites" — expressed it among themselves, all the time, in raptures or happy tears with each new display of our heroine's ferocious intelligence, depth, and courage. We were frankly bewildered by the idea that anyone would hedge their commitment to her ("You don't have to be her friend"; "Yes, she's made mistakes"; "lesser of two evils"). We didn't remember anyone turning to this stock ambivalence when discussing Obama, Babe Ruth, FDR. If only one reporter — they knew about us — could have published a headline like "Clinton Inspires Historic Levels of Adoration From Her Supporters" about the people who have had their lives transformed by the power of her brilliant campaign, unrivaled effectiveness, and extraordinary career. Just one headline like that, like the ones Bill Clinton got.
Usually a legend is made by men and media — the legend of Kennedy, say, or Jim Morrison — and then, much later, a biopic, pretending to evenhandedness, reveals the legend's shortcomings, his "human" side. The shortcomings are almost always something exactly no one actually believes compromises his heroism. His problem drinking. His mistreatment of women. Well, takedowns of Hillary were always already written. She has somehow made the time to hear out each dead-end line of reasoning about her fake mortal sins, and often she has also thanked everyone for sparing her further moral lashings, as if that were a kindness. Under cover of "humanizing" the intimidating valedictorian, reports and investigations and media clichés vilified her. But the feminist hero never got to be a legend first. And yet she is one, easily surpassing Ben Franklin, Henry Ford, Steve Jobs.
I want to reverse the usual schedule of things, then. We don't have to wait until she dies to act. Hillary Clinton's name belongs on ships, and airports, and tattoos. She deserves straight-up hagiographies and a sold-out Broadway show called RODHAM. Yes, this cultural canonization is going to come after the chronic, constant, nonstop "On the other hand" sexist hedging around her legacy. But such is the courage of Hillary Clinton and her supporters; we reverse patriarchal orders. Maybe she is more than a president. Maybe she is an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself. The presidency is too small for her. She belongs to a much more elite class of Americans, the more-than-presidents. Neil Armstrong, Martin Luther King Jr., Alexander Fucking Hamilton.
Hillary Clinton did everything right in this campaign, and she won more votes than her opponent did. She won. She cannot be faulted, criticized, or analyzed for even one more second. Instead, she will be decorated as an epochal heroine far too extraordinary to be contained by the mere White House. Let that revolting president-elect be Millard Fillmore or Herbert Hoover or whatever. Hillary is Athena.
Fuck off Hillary. I have no skin in this game, but you are a self-important venal bitch. You lost, bitch, and it was all your fault. Please skulk off and let others try to present an alternative worthy of the voters' consideration. There's a good girl.
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Unless all the candidates for the Democratic nomination AND the Establishment come out strongly condemning Hillary for refusing to commit to Bernie if he's the nominee, they can STFU about unity and I don't want to hear another word about VBNMW.
After what he did to Warren, and the feeding frenzy of his followers that followed, I think more and more people are starting to wake up to how toxic this man is. In fact, the events of the last few weeks (including trying to smear Biden with the word "corruption", the lies about Social Security, etc) made me finally decide, once and for all, that I'm going to vote for Biden. I even donated to his campaign for the first time.
I used to think I wanted Warren, then Pete...but I can't risk throwing away my vote in a way that could help Sanders win. I worry that Warren, even after what he did to her, could give him her delegates and I worry that Pete just isn't ready to be president yet (although some day I certainly hope I get to vote for him!).
She makes trump look like a choir boy. What a horrible sack of steaming stinking shit she is. And in her twisted sick mind she actually thinks she is more likable than Bernie.
On a positive note, I believe her hatred towards Bernie will actually help him. Look for a bump in the polls and in donations after this.
That's for damn sure now! Hillary laid it right on the table in all its stinking glory! It will be PUMA when Bernie gets the nomination from her and her cabal. It will be up to us and all the new voters we can get to the polls to wash these damn corporate dem sellouts out of the party!
And yet, he has the highest favorability ratings of anyone currently running for president, while Hillary had the lowest ratings of anyone to ever run for president.
Strange world you Republicans live in.
I don’t get why people say things that are verifiable lies:
[Biden aggregate net favorability: -4.5](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/joe_biden_favorableunfavorable-6677.html)
[Bernie aggregate net favorability: -6](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/bernie_sanders_favorableunfavorable-6676.html)
> Bern Sanders has no chance of beating don trump
He polls the best against Trump.
>Orange man will label him a socialist who will raise everyone’s taxes
Socialism doesn't have the negative association that it used to, at least for the 60% of the country who aren't already committed to Trump.
> He won’t be able to flip enough of the states trump won in 2016.
He beat Hillary in the 2016 primary in exactly the swing states that cost her the election.
> He polls best against Trump
This is just verifiably untrue:
[Biden vs Trump: Biden +4](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html)
[Bernie vs Trump: Bernie +3](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html)
This is also ignoring how Bernie does better in the deeper blue states and Biden does better in the more moderate/swing states.
Um, Bernie is winning more than Biden over Trump in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania....
Who cares about national polls? Hillary beat Trump by 3 million votes; that's not how we elect presidents, though.
The polls didn’t favor orange man in 2016.
Orange man is a master of labeling people. Bern will be labeled a socialist who wants to raise people’s taxes and regulate businesses.
What kind of idiot in a swing state is going to change their vote from the candidate who has lowered their taxes to the one who will increase their taxes?
> The polls didn’t favor orange man in 2016.
...and he didn't win the popular vote. He just happened to hit the states that he needed to win the electoral college.
Them's the breaks.
>Orange man is a master of labeling people. Bern will be labeled a socialist who wants to raise people’s taxes and regulate businesses.
And Trump is used to duking it out with mealy-mouthed corporate whores like Hillary Clinton. Bernie has a clear message and can address those accusations head-on.
>What kind of idiot in a swing state is going to change their vote from the candidate who has lowered their taxes to the one who will increase their taxes?
Nice shift! You were saying that he was going to be accused of that, and now you are assuming it to be true!
The fact is that people will pay less overall, which is all that anyone cares about.
The fact is that Bernie polls very well in places like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania... and flipping those from 2016 will win the election.
Until people get a full understanding go whoa Bernie really is. You know, an old communist. Honeymoon in the USSR, supporter of communism in Central America, advocate of the gov take over of many private industries etc. Right now many considering him just think he is a kook who has accomplished nothing in his last 40 years. They therefore assume he is harmless. His history will come back to haunt him if CNN doesn’t take him out of contention sooner.
The old scare tactics just don't work anymore, at least not on anyone who doesnt reflexively vote Republican, and why the #*@$ would you want to pander to them?
CNN tried their best... and it backfired.
Warren tried her best... and it backfired.
This is what happens when clueless rich people try to manipulate a group of people that they can no longer relate to.
Nothing I have said is not truthful. It is not a tactic. People will reject him as they learn more about his views. Wait and see. Perhaps you lack historical context regarding communism? Not sure. If so, do a little reading about Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot perhaps. You can get a feel for how the doctrine works out when implemented. The horrific results to humanity and abject failure to to achieve anything beside a plummeting standard of living in every implementation ever attempted tends to be a dealbreaker for most people.
My father is a retired history professor; I have more background knowledge on the subject than you with the simplistic ideas you have presented.
But we don't want the USSR or China; we want Scandinavian-style Socialism, a mixed economy with the best of both Socialism and Capitalism, while minimizing the problems associated with both.