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Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now. When new, virulent diseases emerge, such SARS and Covid-19, the race begins to find new…
Chandra Duggirala MD - @csentropy
3 months ago
RT @naval: Use your common sense...
“Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.“
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Ash - @Crypto4Lif
3 months ago
RT @naval: Use your common sense...
“Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.“
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Christopher Wheeler - @Stocktrader
3 months ago
“Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic” by Richard Hobday
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Justin - @MindsFiction
3 months ago
RT @naval: Use your common sense...
“Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.“
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zooko - @zooko
3 months ago
RT @naval: Use your common sense...
“Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.“
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TheHODLAnalyst⚡️ - @PaytheTollman
3 months ago
RT @naval: Use your common sense...
“Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.“
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Naval - @naval
3 months ago
Use your common sense...
“Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.“
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Nick Szabo⚡️ - @NickSzabo4
3 months ago
RT @Mangan150: Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic by Richard Hobday
Importantly, fresh air, whether indoors or out, appeared to improve treatment, so good ventilation was highly regarded. "The Open Air Factor"
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Kevin Pham - @_Kevin_Pham
3 months ago
RT @ScottAdamsSays: Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic https://t.co/QK3ysNDST1
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postonrddt
3 months ago
Could the temperature changes of being outside affect the virus ie the warmer days and cooler nights. Would it be the temperature swings that could be critical in lessening the virus's life span?
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Thorusss
3 months ago
interesting theory, as e.g. material ages with thermic cycles, like you describe. But cold preserves corona, and heat destroys it.
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KittenKoder
4 months ago
Ironically I live in Seattle, and we're a hotbed for the virus right now. So even if this worked, we're still fucked.
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lostinafog
4 months ago
This isn't the flu. Yes, its important to get sunshine and not breath recirculated air, but its more important to not be in large crowds. So please listen to actual medical authorities in this field! I am not one, I am encouraging you to look for scientific sources on this particular virus.
I am trying to go out at less crowded times for walks and opening windows. Again, I am not virologist just some one trying to follow and find information from professionals in the field.
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pallamas
4 months ago
There is no evidence that sunlight or fresh air (or essential oils or ozone or chanting to bells) kills coronavirus. Wanna know what does? Washing your hands with soap. Detergent. Bleach.
That being said, take a walk because going crazy indoors is bad too.
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MtMetNO
4 months ago
Well...a virus, any virus, needs a host. That is, a person. In order to spread, it needs to have lots of people close enough to each other to be transmitted. It isn't that air and sunshine "kill" the virus, its that the virus needs a population to hop around and propogate. I would think fresh air and sunshine would be great for you, particularly if you are feeling cooped up or a little run down, etc.. Key is to just not be around other people.
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Tom_Ov_Bedlam
4 months ago
AHh YES, Medium...... Where I get all the most important medical information.
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hayzeus
Bywater 4 months ago
You're getting downvoted, but I'd be pretty careful about getting medical information from Medium, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook....
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laurtood2
3 months ago
Right?! This info is almost undoubtedly false. At absolute best it's misleading. Don't get me wrong going outside great even in times like these.
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shipwreck98
4 months ago
You and u/lbr33 need to duke it out bc right now I keep stepping outside and back in like a cat
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PoorlyShavedApe
Faubourg Marigny 4 months ago
This research was funded by Big Pollen.
It’s a trick to get you outside where pollen can get you.
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swapper_NOLA
4 months ago
I've already told my kid we can go to the park tonight and watch the sunset. I think the key is staying away from people, not shutting yourself inside and building a toilet paper fortress.
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Streetmamamona
4 months ago
If people were actually building toilet paper forts then I’d understand.
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moonshiver
4 months ago
Be outdoors, but distance yourself for others.
However, your quote is a little inappropriate considering this is a novel, atypical virus. Show me a study, peer-reviewed or not, that shows that fresh air kills COVID19. I’ve looked myself across pubmed, and the data is unclear and at the very least quite dependent upon surface material. Academic journals are reporting anywhere from a couple hours to 9 days.
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Streetmamamona
4 months ago
I think scientists are a little busy right now....
Regardless, if you read this article it says that records from the 1918 pandemic show that severely ill patients nursed outside recovered better than those treated indoors.
Obviously sunlight and fresh air aren’t the cure but it can be tempting to listen to the craziness of the news and lock yourself inside, citing it as an excuse to binge on Netflix. But it’s beautiful here, and being outside helps humans in so many different ways. Look to Seasonal Affective Disorder or the fact that flu season is in winter.
Stay safe, take all the necessary precautions, don’t buy all the toilet paper and enjoy the beautiful day!
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hayzeus
Bywater 4 months ago
That would be because in 1918 patients were otherwise cramped into very crowded hospitals. This was particularly true of the military field hospitals. This would have allowed both the disease and the secondary infections (which were devastating) to spread like wildfire. The situation in 1918 was not equivalent to a person staying in their own home -- unless they have 10 sick roommates.
While I think getting fresh air is a great idea with some distancing -- and is certainly is good for morale, there is 0 evidence that going outside will keep you from getting sick.
I suspect that there is a reason this article is on Medium, rather than in a peer-reviewed journal.
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swampwildebeest
4 months ago
I think the recovery bit can be explained by vitamin D. Research shows that getting vitamin D is just as important to immune health as vitamin C is. They wouldn't have supplemented back then but going in the sun would have boosted their levels, so it's basically a trial comparing vitamin D levels in recovery.
That bring said, I don't know why people are downvoting you for trying to be optimistic.
It is beautiful outside, and it does lift the spirits! Just if you're outside, try to be somewhere people aren't. Like if you're taking a bike ride in the empty parts of City Park it's probably fine, but if you live in the quarter and your idea of fresh air is strolling down Decatur then it's kinda counterintuitive to social distancing.
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Streetmamamona
4 months ago
Yup, you’re right. Here’s a study since that’s what’s being asked for: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3092571/
Some interesting parts:
Furthermore, Ginde et al. found that the serum levels of vitamin D were inversely associated with upper respiratory tract infections,22 and it seems that exposure to artificial UVB radiation has a protective effect.23 We, therefore, propose that the seasonal variation of influenza death numbers is related to the seasonal variation of vitamin D status.
The death numbers start to decrease several months before the vitamin D level starts to increase significantly. This is likely to be related to induction of better immunity. Thus, influenza pandemies, starting outside the classical winter influenza season, have a duration of not more than a few months, but also in the case of classical pandemies, like the Spanish flu, 1918–1919, there came a winter wave after the initial wave.24
In conclusion, our data are in agreement with the assumption that the high numbers of winter influenza and pneumonia deaths in Norway are related to low vitamin D levels in this season.
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JumpingOnBandwagons
4 months ago
I can still social distance outside. Hammock drinking and solo bike rides all weekend!
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colorspectrumdisorde
4 months ago
I’ve been working from home and then drinking in my backyard since this all started. So I’m good?
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nerdy-yogi
nudist-naturist [58M] 4 months ago
Being in a naturist context can only help. Vitamin D, fresh air, the lack of clothing to carry the germs, swimming and lounging in chlorinated pools and hot tubs, and frequent showering can only be good. We should all head to the nude resorts and fight this thing!
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TheHeathenStagehand
4 months ago
Lol my own grandmother shared this exact article on facebook today. Was thinking the same thing lol. Hits home for sure.
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18042369
4 months ago
Corona virus infections are more prevalent in winter. Maybe because people are in enclosed spaces more then. Also sun is a good disinfectant and fresh air (and wind) will dilute the amount of virus in the air being breathed.
I had a quick look at the start of the article which seems on point.
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huzzahlevel
4 months ago
I had never really thought of sunlight as a disinfectant. Is that entirely UV driven or does heat play a role as well?
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huzzahlevel
4 months ago
I couldn’t figure out how to add text to this link post, so here is my question:
Does this article, and idea, hold any weight?
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Metaplayer
4 months ago
Sun, yes. Fresh air, not substantiated. Other than that they believed it worked and recommended it some 100 years ago
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