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Source: mercurynews.com ·
Willow Glen gun shop stayed open, then ordered closed, with modest fanfare; police say they focused on warnings and education for suspected violations of stay-at-home order.
Andrew "Not cool enough for an ETH scam" Glidden - @asglidden
10 months ago
RT @prestonjbyrne: Don’t wait till a disaster to get prepared, Exhibit A: https://t.co/6zc6uq7W0Y
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Preston Byrne - @prestonjbyrne
10 months ago
Don’t wait till a disaster to get prepared, Exhibit A: https://t.co/6zc6uq7W0Y
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jgcrossman2
10 months ago
The 10 day waiting period is chafing very badly. All my attempts at irony have gone unappreciated. I doubt the pain will still be there when all this comes up for votes in November but one can hope.
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10 months ago
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Loganthered
10 months ago
So put a sign out that all registered demorats can show up in 3 days to buy a gun. When doing background checks do a voter registration check at the same time.
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Diligent_Gain
10 months ago
So if an abused woman needs to defend herself from an abuser, Democrats have decided her ability to purchase a firearm is not essential.
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CosmicDave
:flag-us: America 10 months ago
>Democrats have decided her ability to purchase a firearm is not essential.
The President of the United States has ordered that all gatherings of 10 or more people be halted.
*\*checks notes\**
He's a Republican.
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CosmicDave
:flag-us: America 10 months ago
If a woman is being abused and she runs away, goes to the store and buys a gun, then runs back and shoots the mother fucker, that's murder. If she picks up a kitchen knife and guts him like a boar, that's self defense.
We have the right to peacefully assemble, the right to go to church, the right to do a whole bunch of shit that we all love to do, but none of us has the right to infect someone with a potentially fatal disease while exercising those rights.
Right now the entire human race is under attack. Countless billions of hostile microbes are attacking us all. We are ALL in danger. If this was zombies or Martians we would use guns to defend ourselves and rightfully so, but guns will not protect us from this. This invader is invisible and hides inside our own bodies. Any one of us could have been infected any time in the last two weeks and we would have no way to know. I could be infected right now. So could you.
People walking around amongst us with this virus hiding inside them are nearly on the same threat level as people who have been bitten by zombies but have yet to turn. Have you been bitten yet? You don't fucking know. But if you are infected, the last thing the human race needs right now is you walking around outside trying to buy a gun so you can kill your spouse.
Maybe you know for certain that you aren't infected, so it's okay to go out amongst the living, but then you merely risk becoming infected yourself. Why put yourself and everyone you know in danger? Do yourself and everyone around you a favor and just stay home as much as possible until this blows over, and if you absofuckinglutely must exercise your 2A, just buy your guns online like the rest of us.
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SwampTerror
10 months ago
More importantly he would kill her with that gun before she got her hands on it. Domestic abusers love guns.
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Diligent_Gain
10 months ago
And there you have it folks.
Democrats want women to be raped and abused and will use any excuse, including a worldwide pandemic, to allow their victimization.
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amusemuffy
10 months ago
Save your fake outrage and concern for abused women. If you really cared you would advocate for prison reform so that an abuser would get more jail time vs someone with a joint. You would advocate for the justice system to take domestic violence more seriously and put some actual teeth behind protective orders. If you really cared about domestic violence you would advocate for universal healthcare so that victim and their children would be able to receive professional mental health care to deal with the multigenerational trauma that has now been established and break that cycle. If you really cared about domestic violence then you would advocate for a better welfare system so she would have the stability to leave her abuser and get housing, food etc. But go ahead and cry about muh guns which would likely end up being used by her abuser to murder her anyway.
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RugerRedhawk
10 months ago
Shop was just hoping to cash in on panic hoarders. Close the shop, it's not fucking essential.
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Ordinary-Wolverine
10 months ago
Why should someone abused have the right to escalate the level of violence?
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LittleLeg8
10 months ago
If she's a privileged woman, no problem.
If not, then yeah, she either gets her ass kicked or goes to prison for owning a "weapon of war."
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Ow_wow
10 months ago
It's a fucking HOBBY. Of course we have to close hobby shops. Don't know what this asshole thought.
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thelizardkin
10 months ago
If marijuana shops, and furniture stores are open, so should gun shops.
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Karononaverus
10 months ago
So I guess we should also close newspapers and television studios since Constitutional Rights suddenly became "hobbies".
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Jakewakeshake
10 months ago
idk if you’re joking or not, but do you feel like the ability to buy a gun is as important as the news during a pandemic?
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GandalfTheGrayscale
:flag-tn: Tennessee 10 months ago
People with walking dead fetishes are going to be mighty angry
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ruler_gurl
10 months ago
[*Time comes I need one Sir, there'll be plenty of 'em lyin' on the ground*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECLJpRj170I)
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MostAssuredlyHuman
:flag-us: American Expat 10 months ago
I indulge my walking dead fetish by refusing to shower and living on a steady diet of canned peaches.
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HurricaneFloJo
10 months ago
But, but, if everyone was heavily armed, we could have protected ourselves against the corona virus.
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Sirdinks
:flag-nj: New Jersey 10 months ago
If we all kill each other with guns we won't have to worry about catching the virus
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Sirdinks
:flag-nj: New Jersey 10 months ago
I will fight to protect what's mine HurricaneFloJo! I have the constitutional right to kill to defend my toilet paper hoard.
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HurricaneFloJo
10 months ago
Oh my god! The looters! I forgot about the looters. They're massing outside my house right now. Ready to loot my collection of ugly ties and all my other valuable stuff. I need an assault rifle. For the looters.
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mud_sweat_gears
10 months ago
I've shot three coronaviruses just today. No bag limit on those suckers! Stack the bodies!
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HurricaneFloJo
10 months ago
The best things for Covid-19 is AR-15s. Every American should own three. No four.
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TheOutSpokenGamer
10 months ago
It's not that. I agree with the order, not because it's a gun store but because people have been lining up and risk spreading the virus in small stores like this.
A lot of people arming themselves are in liberal states and are minorities. Tons of asian-americans preparing to be blamed for something not their fault (again...)
So yeah, guns won't stop corona, but they might stop a racist prick whos emboldened by white nationalist rhetoric.
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HurricaneFloJo
10 months ago
My wife is Chinese and we're not buying a fucking gun.
One week it's anti-Chinese racism. The next week it's some other baloney. A heavily armed population of meatheads results in all the crazy gun shit that regularly appears in the news in this country.
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TheOutSpokenGamer
10 months ago
You're completely welcome to do what you wish, but this country has a pretty nasty history of targeting specific ethnic/religious groups based on bad things happening. People love a scapegoat and this would not be the first time a minority group is targeted.
There is nothing 'meatheady' about owning a gun for self-defense. It's every single persons right and given our President will not back down from calling this the "Chinese Virus" i can see why people are getting anxious.
More power to you if you aren't worried. Don't look down on others who are.
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HurricaneFloJo
10 months ago
>There is nothing 'meatheady' about owning a gun for self-defense.
Of course not! All the school shootings, and suicides, and whacky militias full of fat assed neck beards, the movies that glorify shoot-em-ups, Ruby Ridge, Branch Davidians, bump stocked AR-15s hurting hundreds at a Las Vegas concert, Texas Tower, Walmart, Baptist Churches, gay discos, kids well-versed in active shooter drills.
That happens in every country in the world. Just like here right?
No it doesn't.
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TheOutSpokenGamer
10 months ago
>That happens in every country in the world. Just like here right?
Well yes, it does.
In Japan they go on knife rampages near/at schools. In europe they have car rampages, mass shootings and pipe bombings. In South America they have mass murder but it's done by gangs.
This notion that outside the U.S mass-attacks dont exist is simply not true.
Edit: There are issues with how mass shootings are categorized in this country. We do not have weekly mass shootings. Not in the sense most people think. A lot of the data is filed in such a way to make it seem like we have a mass-casuality event every day. I'd rather not get into it though.
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HurricaneFloJo
10 months ago
Right in Japan and China sometimes they go on knife rampages that kill a whole whole whole lot less people than a gun rampage does.
In Europe they have occasional rampages, some of which involve guns. We have them every week. Every fucking week.
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TheOutSpokenGamer
10 months ago
So it's the result not the action itself that matters? If all guns are banned and we start having knife rampages or homemade bombs and these kill less than guns, did we win? Do we pack it up and go home? Do we ban knives?
Edit: My point being we should work on solving/mitigating the underlying issues such as healthcare, wealth inequality, social support systems, dim future propsects, education reform and so on instead of giving up a fundamental right.
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sandwooder
:flag-ny: New York 10 months ago
>A lot of people arming themselves are in liberal states and are minorities
You mean **americans** with the right to bear arms correct... or am I guessing wrong?
[Watch this and you might see the point](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvztDhOKBhs&fbclid=IwAR330MPF0PAKb3nbiMbbTOPpdCdBshjS3vxYwJpWjwgkCAHHB0KcajBxinU)
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TheOutSpokenGamer
10 months ago
No you're right. Just trying to shut down the narrative that guns are something only rednecks and right-wingers own.
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TheOutSpokenGamer
10 months ago
>However, everyone knows that it's the rednecks and right-wingers who fetishize guns, obsess over guns, and use their gun arsenal to define their personality and their lives.
This is where things get dicey, becuase what classifies as 'obessive' varies largely based on political ideology. It's much more accepted on the far left (socialism, communism, etc) than it is among normal liberals especially when you start bringing in things like semi-automatic rifles, which most people don't seem to know the difference between that and an automatic.
So why i'm being hyperbolic in stating that *only right-wingers own guns* which is of course not true, you come across plenty of left-leaning inviduals who are appalled/suprised at the idea of weapon ownership, let alone something scary sounding like an AR-15.
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sandwooder
:flag-ny: New York 10 months ago
Truth is I know lots of so called "liberals" who hunt and shoot. I myself have been trained to handle many weapons and shoot, but I choose not to own a gun. That doesn't mean I can't pick one up, load it, and effectively use it.
If a certain group of people think they are the only ones who own guns they should remember that no matter how many they own they can only shoot one at a time. There are tons of people who don't approve of brandishing a weapon or being aggressive, but they will defend themselves.
I for god hope we as a nation are better than this. If we are not then we are not a nation.
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rileysimon
10 months ago
>If a certain group of people think they are the only ones who own guns they should remember that no matter how many they own they can only shoot one at a time.
Most of them are first time buyers which only purchase one or two firearms like a pistol or pistol and shotgun/rifle for protection, not a gun enthusiast.
Most of the gun enthusiasts I know they're going for ammunition, not the guns (Because most of them already have their owns.)
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sandwooder
:flag-ny: New York 10 months ago
Again you can only shoot one at a time. Stock piles are great for large numbers of people. There happen to be some liberal gun enthusiasts.
BTW these first time gun owners actually scare me more than the enthusiasts.
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notFBI-V1
10 months ago
Garcia said the owner of the store had told officers the business remained open because, under regulations from the California Department of Justice, they are limited in how long they can hold firearms that had already been purchased, and the buyers had to pick them up.
“We told them to go to DOJ and seek a waiver,” Garcia said. “There was no malicious intent. A lot of this stuff is going to happen.”
Say what? I've never heard about a waiver for the waiting period.
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jgcrossman2
10 months ago
Actually, this must be a thing. I got a notification from the place I bought my guns as a blast email even though I don't have anything in the pipeline.
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GeriatricTuna
10 months ago
mother fuck all the steppers and gun grabbers who now want a gun and can't get one due to the insane rules in California.
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swampmeister
10 months ago
Already commented on a number of these articles; interesting that the Newspaper Journo thinks his 1st Amendment business is Essential, while that of the 2nd is Not. He has that bass-akwards... and the poor sheeple in Calf will pay a price for their stupidity and leftist/ socialist/ communist bent. Glad I moved out of there!
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CaliforniaSucks69
10 months ago
Im set to move out in 3 weeks. I might be fucked. This place is a shit hole of a joke
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Izaran
10 months ago
I’m trying to get the fuck out too. And thankfully I’m not the sort who’ll export the bullshit that’s obliterated this state.
What state you flee to? I’m looking at Nevada.
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gearmantx
10 months ago
You are welcome in Texas, just make sure to not tell any liberal friends where you are going.
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swampmeister
10 months ago
Reno/Sparks; they got both Cabellas and Scheels up here!!! Plus some really nice gun shows!
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Izaran
10 months ago
“The one thing we can’t have is panic buying of guns”
THIS IS CALIFORNIA. You literally CAN’T panic buy guns. This is just a bullshit excuse to try and drive gun stores out of business. Fuck you Newsom, fuck you San Jose. This order isn’t even legal to start with.
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ratatine
10 months ago
They can't have it because it will be harder to get them back later and harder to get people to vote against having them if they already own them and saw the need.
Cats out of the bag on that.
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propshaft
Slayer of Swamp Rats, Terror of Tard Town 10 months ago
Then they wonder why we scarf up ammo when the shit hits the fan,
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propshaft
Slayer of Swamp Rats, Terror of Tard Town 10 months ago
With law enforcement given direct orders to do no harm to the lefts protected criminal class who else is a citizen supposed to depend on to defend themselves ?
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Badusername46
10 months ago
I declare police paychecks are non essential. They work for me, not the other way around.
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smarter_politics_now
10 months ago
Leftists: "Only the police should own guns"
Also Leftists: "Fuck the police"
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SniperGX1
10 months ago
Hopefully there will be lawsuits after this blows over. The city clearly has so much money that they won't mind if they lose a pile of it.
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Navydevildoc
10 months ago
"Go get a waiver from the DOJ"... yeah, let me know how that works out for you.
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DapperCaptain5
10 months ago
Everybody should send in applications for waivers from the DOJ. Then appeal any denials.
The government runs on paperwork.
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COYBIG22920
10 months ago
No governing body in the US has the constitutional authority to close down any private business operating “legally.” These businesses need to defy these insane tyrannical orders and tell their governments to fuck off.
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MSFTdick
10 months ago
[Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905) ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts)
>The Court's decision articulated the view that the freedom of the individual must sometimes be subordinated to the common welfare and is subject to the police power of the state.
>“upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members.”
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COYBIG22920
10 months ago
The constitution wasn’t written by the Supreme Court. They have done a good job at going against their constitutional mandates and rewriting it to justify government actions through judicial review.
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MSFTdick
10 months ago
While I am not a fan of legislating from the bench, it is disingenuous to say that it's illegal for the government to do this.
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COYBIG22920
10 months ago
Precedent and constitutional justification/legality is no where close to the same thing. Just because the government has previously violated the constitution and got away with it doesn’t mean they have free range to do it again. So you can absolutely make the argument it’s “illegal.” We have to remember that the ultimate law of land is the constitution, not set precedent. We have forgotten that in this country.
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HowlingMadMurphy
10 months ago
Guns not essential, says the mayor protected daily by men with guns. I guess it's the costume or the badge that makes the difference between essential and nonessential. Some animals are more essential than others
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TheConfusedBirdy
10 months ago
Didnt you hear? Everyone has equality, I'm just nore equal than you
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icametodrinkbeer
10 months ago
This is exactly why we have the second amendment, to prevent authoritarianism like this.
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VenturestarX
10 months ago
Officials are claiming there is no malicious intent, yet the official statement from the mayor is malicious.
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John-Kreese
Zeoli Army 10 months ago
They can’t help themselves. They start ticking with Tourette’s Syndrome when they see people exercising their natural rights.
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