I believe what many people, not just students, fail at when having political discussions is that they don't feel the need to explain why they feel the way they do in a civil manner. Their position is more about attacking the other side instead of supporting their own position.
Interesting contrast in what the author chose to highlight versus what's contained in the actual study...
From the article:
The report provides strong confirmation that conservatives face a hostile campus.
Among students who self-identify as liberals, some 10 percent said they hear “disrespectful, inappropriate, or offensive comments” about foreign students at least several times a semester, 14 percent said they hear disparaging comments about Muslims, 20 percent said they hear such comments about African Americans, 20 percent said they hear such comments about Christians, 21 percent said they hear such comments about LGBTQ individuals, and 57 percent said they hear such comments about conservatives. Among moderates, 68 percent said that they hear “disrespectful, inappropriate, or offensive comments” about conservatives at least several times a semester. (emphasis in original)
From the study:
Since the risk for misunderstanding seems especially high for these results, we wish to emphatically clarify what they do not imply. First, they do not imply that difficulties faced by the groups with lower rates of offensive comments are, in any way, insignificant. Second, they do not imply that political conservatives globally face greater challenges at UNC than the other groups listed or that conservatives have greater reason to be aggrieved about their social circumstances than the other groups listed. There is no doubt an array of challenges not reflected in the table above—challenges related to overall inclusion, finding a welcoming friend network, feeling understood, being able to partake in activities, and so forth. Also, inappropriate remarks directed at each of the groups listed in the table are not strictly comparable; disrespectful comments likely hurt more when they are directed at immutable aspects of a person’s identity, rather than at political opinions. (emphasis added)
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So conservatives want us to me more accepting of them. While we want them to be more accepting of Immigrants, different religions/none at all, minorities, LGBTQ etc.
It's easy to lump all conservatives together, and it does more harm than good, but at this current moment in the country, stakes are greater. Pretending it's just politics is silly, we are talking about our lives, other people's lives, and the direction of this nation. We are watching a president defy all normal actions in a democracy and have a political party that is not upholding the constitution. Conservatives need to be questioned and put on the spot with facts. We aren't dealing with a political party, we are dealing with a 50 year plan for brainwashing the right in America. We see it right now coming out of the White House.
Hell even the guy holding the sign that says words are not violence needs to recognize that words inspire violence. Words inspire bigotry, words inspire hate, and more. Words convince you that democrats are the enemy, and that fake news is around every corner, and that a lawfully executed investigation that convicted many people for crimes was a witchhunt.
I would love some day to not care about politics, and that our simple differences are just that simple, and someone's life does not rely on our choices.
I suppose if we are going to change minds, a college campus is probably the best place to do it, Get em while they are young.
An alarming 25.5 percent of survey respondents said it would be appropriate to “create an obstruction, such that a campus speaker endorsing this idea could not address an audience.” This authoritarian view was held by about 19 percent of self-identifying liberals, 3 percent of moderates, and 3 percent of conservatives.
Also troubling were the undergraduates who reported having kept an opinion to themselves in the classroom, even though the opinion was related to the class, because they were worried about the potential consequences of expressing it. Almost 68 percent of conservatives censored themselves in this way, along with roughly 49 percent of moderates and 24 percent of liberals.
The good news, it's the students, not the faculty, that are intolerant.
Indeed, students reported that they worry less about censure from faculty than from peers.
Then again maybe this just means the students worse than the faculty.
So the most important thing to look first at this the methodology behind htis
That brings us to the bad news:
While majorities favor more viewpoint diversity and free-speech norms, an intolerant faction of roughly a quarter of students believe it is okay to silence or suppress some widely held views that they deem wrong.
Students across political perspectives engage in classroom self-censorship.
Students harbor divisive stereotypes about classmates with different beliefs, and a substantial minority are not open to engaging socially with classmates who don’t share their views.
Disparaging comments about political conservatives are common.
To measure student tolerance for views with which they disagree, the researchers chose matters of ongoing controversy on campus––the fate of a Confederate statue, affirmative action in admissions, immigration, health care, climate change, and whether Christian bakers should be compelled to make cakes for gay weddings against their will––and presented students with mainstream positions that a liberal or conservative classmate might hold. Respondents were asked to indicate which among those positions they found most objectionable.
Next they were asked: If confronted with an especially objectionable viewpoint, how appropriate would it be to take a series of actions, such as asking a tough question, publishing a dissent, or more extreme measures? An alarming 25.5 percent of survey respondents said it would be appropriate to “create an obstruction, such that a campus speaker endorsing this idea could not address an audience.” This authoritarian view was held by about 19 percent of self-identifying liberals, 3 percent of moderates, and 3 percent of conservatives. More than 3 percent of liberals and 1 percent of conservatives thought it would be appropriate to “yell profanity at a student” for endorsing the objectionable idea.
Im sorry but there are certain issues like the Confederate statue where if you are in outrage over the idea of people wanting to create an obstruction over endorsement of that idea there's a good chance reveals many other views/beliefs you have that are problematic. Somethings there is nothing to both sides over and labeling as "controversial" is at best disingenuous.
But “a substantial proportion of respondents fear social sanction, or even outright grading penalties, for sharing their views.”
Not going to sit and pretend like social sanction never exists in any capacity, but it's about the level of outrage and attention given to this by a predominantly white population who doesnt realize the type of sanctioning and regulation of actions others of other backgrounds have to go through that's far more serious yet gets a fraction of their outrage. Most black kids in the US growing up gets in some form or another the lesson about how to "regulate" how you come across and present yourself to a cop to make sure you dont risk getting shot or retaliated against. Can come up with a million ex like this.
If you walk past a table full of Nazi literature, that's not a peaceful display. The ideology is based on violence. Similar here. It's not peaceful if their message is that some people are less than others.
Expressing unpopular views “can reveal critical blind spots in prevailing thought patterns,” the authors of the report note, and even when a view is wrong, its refutation allows both parties “to better apprehend why the correct view must be true.”
It’s somewhat ironic that the author—who was previously heavily editorializing about the evils of deplatforming—would bring this fact up. Couldn’t this tolerance for unpopular views justify the pro-deplatforming position of the undergraduates they were “alarmed” about?
They just brought themselves full circle back around the paradox of tolerance that 25% of undergraduates were choosing to escape. It’s the author’s own blind spot.
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This sub is a great example of why we need to start defunding the softer sciences. Progressive indoctrination has no place in higher education and it is clear that faculties across the country will not take any action.
Well insights about "human nature" seem like they would be more in the realm of philosophy. Sociology does have a lot to offer though if you're interested in finding patterns in the social world.
What about the social world would you be interested in learning more about?
the fate of a Confederate statue, affirmative action in admissions, immigration, health care, climate change, and whether Christian bakers should be compelled to make cakes for gay weddings against their will
Lmao at the Confederate statues bit and gay wedding cake, what victims the cons are. What next, they can't say the n-word out loud?
An alarming 25.5 percent of survey respondents said it would be appropriate to “create an obstruction, such that a campus speaker endorsing this idea could not address an audience.”
I'm not surprised people would object harshly if some of the conservative opinions were literally supporting white supremacist statues and discriminating based on identity.
oh no 😭😭😭 the poor conservatives 😭😭😭 they might have to suffer the entirely immaterial judgement of their peers if they promote their shitty horrible views 😭😭😭
oh wait it says everyone is self-censoring, which is not surprising because of course everyone self-censors in their day-to-day life because it's not appropriate to yell out everything that pops into your head
"if you say shitty things i'll judge you for it" is not classically considered an anti-social behaviour, but this is a good demonstration of how the absolute minimum possible consequences have been redefined as a life-ending blow so conservatives can still pretend they're persecuted
As a group y’all don’t know how to behave anymore. It’s as simple as that. Maybe it’s a consequence of Russian social media influence. I don’t know exactly how it got this bad. I just know that the idea of people like y’all in power terrifies me. Trump is literally less terrifying than you all.
Ah yes, it's the university students we should be worried about, not the rise in far-right nationalism (that rallies around Confederate statues btw) that has a body count. What exactly is objectionable about protesting or obstructing someone who supports keeping Confederate statues or stopping gay people from buying a cake?
You’ll need to do your own soul-searching. Self-reflection is literally your only way out of this disaster. Really dig deep and try to understand why your behavior towards conservatives is so off-putting.
Perhaps you think you are being snarky, but every single departmental decision we've made (or talked about and inevitably not made) in the last three years has been cast as a binary choice - usually boiling down to some sort of moral orthodox position vs everything else.
People really *do* tend to think that way, because nuance is hard, and fuck that.