RT @GlobalMeshLabs: Decentralized technology is being tested by innovators in totalitarian countries, but not yet even in the 'early adopter' phase of uptake.
We are focused on using bitcoin incentives to bootstrap decentralized bottom-up communication networks so they will be in place when needed. https://t.co/r52P1lq7tX
We must do better.
“In the face of censorship and isolation from their countries’ financial and communication systems, protesters across the globe are testing out bitcoin and other decentralized technologies – then promptly discovering their limitations.” https://t.co/6t4uW07vQb
The world really needs satellite internet, and a proliferation of the technology needed to interact with said satellites. Of course terrestrial infrastructure is beholden to the will of local governments
Does anyone else get the feeling he is a stranded, homesick alien slowly rebuilding the infrastructure of his home world? Revolutionizing transportation technology until one day he can finally fix his flying saucer and fly away?
And mesh networks. We need smartphones to make p2p connections with devices near them (this should be already possible with the hardware in today's phones). Not only will it help in emergencies (networks down or overloaded) but it will make (network) censorship virtually impossible. Sure, gaming would have huge lag (not the point of this), but you could always get important texts through. I sure hope something like this will become common place. Maybe use micro payments to reward relais. There are already devices like gotenna, but that requires a separate purchase... If something like that was built in, that would be truly a game changer. Anyone know why we don't have this today? Laws? Lobbying of telco? No interest from the industry (many sell phones and infrastructure to telcos at the same time (Motorola, Huawei,...))?
I think the biggest hold-ups to this sort of thing are battery consumption and cost of data. However, the solution may be with us now; Monero hashes in exchange for data forwarding. That new feature baked into the the newest release is a hidden gem, overshadowed (but also enabled by) the RandomX algo. That's the beauty of CPU mining; it opens up possibilities that an ASIC will never give you
\^ This is the only option in my view.
There have been several projects attempting this in the past. OpenGarden has some software that creates a mesh to share the internet and a chat app, but i think it's from a Chinese company and everything is unencrypted.
Other mesh projects are practically dead afaik.
I think the biggest problem is the lack of incentive to build this software as it would be difficult (or impossible) to monetize this development. Once it is built, it should however provide massive financial opportunity. For example: My phone plan charges me like 2$/GB while my wired home has a flat fiber connection. Now I would definitely be willing to relay my fiber data for pennies per GB through my phone to my neighbors while it is charging.
That's a real neat piece of tech; I'm just afraid it's prohibitively expensive for developing countries. If it supported email, one could graft Monero support via a transaction pusher. Though, I am of the opinion that the likes of Nano may be best for those in repressive regimes, where I assume possession of *any* crypto client would be forbidden. In such a situation, minimizing transaction fees would be a higher priority than privacy
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Most of the article talks about internet access being a central point of failure. Cointext changes this (kinda) since SMS can be used. Ultimately something like a mesh-network to internet proxy would completely fix it.
Simply a matter of time before someone comes up with a mesh-network killer app.
Monero is not mentioned, but I thought this article was interesting because it helps us understand that there are still barriers to using Bitcoin or Monero that are not obvious to those that are not facing these situations.
Building infrastructure on top of Monero that addresses these access and usability problems would be amazing.
Maybe we could brainstorm some ideas and kick off a project or two to solve these issues?
I think you and some others on this thread would be great additions to the Monero Transmissions Lab https://taiga.getmonero.org/project/xmrhaelan-monero-public-relations/epic/108
Edit: paging /u/bawdyanarchist and /u/spirtdica
I think the biggest drawback to mesh networks is the relative lack of incentive to invest costly data and power in the transmission of others. To borrow from torrent slang, there's a big incentive to leech without seeding. But I see an opportunity with RandomX; these costs can be paid by users via hashes from just about any device. Assuming that Monero hashes become the de facto currency of a decentralized internet, that means that access to an up-to-date blockchain is paramount. For that reason, I believe the MONSAT (Monero Satellite) idea should be prioritized. Perhaps an FFS proposal could literally get the idea off the ground?
That's actually exactly what I was thinking of; I feel like that new feature has been overshadowed by the algo change and needs more public exposure. The way I see it, the lack of incentive to provide RPC services to remote node users is essentially the same as the lack of incentive to forward data in a mesh network. The hashing payment tool is the answer to both (and great for XMR mining decentralization to boot)