@DragonMasterXTZ Regarding NYC, the majority of new hospitalizations are those who are sheltering in place. With that information, how certain are you that continuing the lockdown and decimating people's livelihood is the right move at this point in time? https://t.co/onA2qtjdW0
RT @ClarkeMicah: For some reason, proponents of the Panic Policy *really* don't like this story (barely covered in the UK) which shows large numbers of people getting Covid-19 after obediently staying at home: https://t.co/lBf0wM3xLr
RT @boriquagato: cuomo finds it "shocking" that 66% of new COV hospitalizations are from people who had sheltered at home?
on what planet is this shocking?
we've known for months that case severity has a strong correlation to the size of the initial infection dose.
Early look at data from 100 New York hospitals shows that 66% of new admissions related to the virus are people who were at home, Cuomo said.
He also said a majority of the cases in New York City are minorities, with nearly half being African American or Hispanic.
Fun with data!!!
"Early look at data" Ok. what is the time span and WHEN were these number collected and evaluated? "Early look" is the media's new double-speak replacing, "an anonymous source, not authorized to comment" when it comes to scientific data.
"a majority of the cases in New York City are minorities" Uh oh, do we have a virus practicing discrimination? How many new patients were female? How many were female that used to be male? How many were the other way around? How many were from either group but only had ONE eye? Did any of them order from Amazon? Did any of them lick the Amazon boxes? How many had.... PELATON!!!!!
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I'm staying at home and following protocols strictly- wiping deliveries and groceries, using and washing masks every time I take out the garbage or get mail, but went out twice this week- once to drop off a package, once to Central Park for exercise. After the park I drew up my will. It was that bad. I know the mask I wear filters 50% of particles at best- I encountered hundreds of cyclists and runners without masks, many seeking to avoid each other on the trails by going into the less traveled areas. And not just that- pedestrians with masks pulled down to smoke or talk on the phone, wearing masks below their noses, or no mask at all. Statistically there's no way I avoided exposure.
NYS is temporarily allowing remote witnessing and notarizing, FYI.
>In a densely packed city going outside even once has an increased risk of transmission. This really isn't that shocking.
Absolutely true, doctors in NYC were horrified at people riding bikes in the city for example since it increases the viral load getting into your respiratory system exponentially. It's like jogging next to a busy highway--you can end up doing more harm physically by breathing in carbon monoxide and other poisons than the good benefits of the exercise itself.
more likely, those 66% that stayed home and still end up hospitalized didn't get infected from stepping outdoors, they contacted it from someone in their household who was either an essential worker or did the shopping.
It really won't be that shocking if they are able to dig deeper and find out if someone else in the home frequently was out and about. It is extremely difficult not to infect someone who lives under the same roof with you over a two month period. there are simply too many ways and too many opportunities to spread it to others in the household, especially if you are asymptomatic.
These stats really don’t seem to say what Cuomo and others are reading into them.
The first question basically asks where infected people are living — prison, nursing home, home — and 66% say home. It doesn’t seem to ask whether they’re going to work, staying isolated, anything — just that they’re living at their own home.
The second question asks people how they are commuting, and 84% said they either aren’t or aren’t taking public transportation — doesn’t seem to say or ask anything about whether they’re leaving home, staying isolated, etc....
Seems like these stats are being reported as “the majority of new cases are from people who are staying home and not going anywhere” while, unless we aren’t getting the real info, it seems to only say that 1. The majority of new cases are not from prisons or nursing homes, and 2. The majority of new cases are people who are not commuting to work via public transportation.
Shocking? It’s shocking that he thinks we’ll believe thus shit.
He’s just following the script given to him in his daily briefings.
He’s not shocked by anything nor does he give a fuck. It’s all about the power grab.
Eeee titulozinho mentiroso hein. Acho tão engraçado como os bolsonaristas usam a tática que eles tanto acusam a “mídia” não?
Retirado de dentro do seu link, não precisei nem ir buscar a entrevista por fora:
“I was afraid that it was going to infect my family no matter what I did. We’re past that,” Cuomo said at a press conference on April 13. “If you isolate, if you take the precautions, your family won’t get infected.”
Não é que a quarentena não funciona. O que foi surpreendente pro Cuomo é que um número grande de pessoas que deram entrada não estão precisando ir ao trabalho ou se vão vão em carros particulares. Ou seja não há nenhuma indicação de que essas pessoas não:
1 - tenham contato com alguém que tem saído
2 - tenham saído costumeiramente pra fazer compras sem tomar as devidas preaucacoes.
3 - tenham outros moradores na mesma casa que possam estar saindo.
Mas eu te entendo, interpretação é difícil pra bolsonarista mesmo. Até o líder da seita já admitiu né.
Em SP Capital, nós compramos tudo pela Internet, no Extra, Carrefour, pão de açúcar, swift etc..
E o rappi então, busca até dinheiro se vc quiser...
O problema do elevador é o lixo, geralmente nos APs tem que levar o lixo para o depósito.
Elevador é uma caixa fechada, com pouca ou nenhuma ventilação, que todos usam...
>Em SP Capital, nós compramos tudo pela Internet, no Extra, Carrefour, pão de açúcar, swift etc..
Moro em SP.... ateh semana passada todos os supermercados com delivery proprio tinham entrega para ~7-10dias apenas. Horrivel, poderiam estar faturando muito mais.
>Elevador é uma caixa fechada, com pouca ou nenhuma ventilação, que todos usam...
Pega escada! TopKEK. Alem de exercitar evita tudo isso ;) Dou gracas a deus por morar em casa.
>OP either admits it's that infectious
Are you retarded? Of course it is infectious. It's a virus.
>Or OP literally believes the virus is pure magic
I'm sure popcorn is magic to you, because you don't know how it works.
>Which is it op? What was your intentions on posting this?
You mean, 'what were your intentions...'
My intention was to get some needle dick like you all worked up. You should ask yourself why you are all defensive about protecting a viruses reputation.
I'm betting that essential employees are spreading it to their loved ones and do to the current inactivity of their loved ones life styles, age and overall health they're having a harder time dealing with it leading to them needing to be hospitalized. Notice this is about hospitalization not simple infection.
Sort of, it's spreading out the infections over time so the healthcare system can treat as many people as possible. If a city has 500 hospital beds and 1500 people who are so sick they require hospitalization, doctors will have to choose who is highest priority. This is what happened in certain parts of italy, where if you were over a certain age you were not admitted.
if 1500 people total end up becoming seriously ill, but it's never more than 500 of them at a time, the hypothetical city's hospitals can give them all the care they need. So even though it really hurts the economy to have a slow moving wave of sickness, it preserves the most life
You probably already knew all this but I thought I'd just type it out for anyone else who might read.
I manage an apt building in Chicago. I have painter whose wife is in the hospital with the virus. As soon as I found out, I sent the whole painting crew home for 2weeks. Wtf. Now I am worried my staff and residents have been exposed. Good news he had been wearing a mask and gloves.