RT @sfchronicle: BAY AREA MUST 'SHELTER IN PLACE'
Six Bay Area counties announced a “shelter in place” order for all residents, directing everyone to stay in their homes for the next 3 weeks as officials desperately try to curb the spread of #coronavirus.
I mean staying home as much as possible.
Obviously, there are valid reasons to leave the house, but going to bars, theaters, gyms, church, visiting friends/ family, etc. isn't one of them.
The reality is also that in the coming period a large proportion of the Dutch population will become infected with this virus.
That’s what the experts are telling us now.
They are also telling us that – as we wait for a vaccine or treatment to be developed – we can delay the spread of the virus and at the same time build up population immunity in a controlled manner.
The third option is that we keep working endlessly to contain the virus.
That would mean shutting down the country completely.
Such a rigorous approach may seem like an attractive option, but experts say that this would not be a matter of days or weeks.
In this scenario, we would essentially have to shut the country down for a year or even longer, with all the consequences that would entail.
And even if that were possible in practice – making people stay in their homes unless they have permission to go outside, for such a lengthy period – the virus could simply rear its head again once the measures were lifted.
The Netherlands is an open country.
Those are the key words: open country.
You can have an open country or you can go for containment. But if you go for containment, you will never get your open country back, ever, until an effective vaccine or treatment for COVID-19 is developed.
Authorities in Wuhan, the epicenter of the novel coronavirus pneumonia outbreak in Hubei province, launched a three-day campaign on Monday to screen people in order to leave no one unattended and curb the spread of the contagion.
The screening work came after the city issued a public notice on Friday that required all residential communities to be locked down and reduce people's movement to limit transmission of the disease.
All residential communities throughout the city are required to be checked door-to-door to identify infected people, suspected cases and those who have close contact with the infected people, Wang Zhonglin, Party secretary of Wuhan, said at a video conference on Sunday.
Residents in the province are classified into groups of high, medium and low risk based on their recent history of travel, residence and contact, as well as their current health status. Different control measures will be taken for different groups.
The real end goal is to be able to completely accurately classify all people in an area as low, medium, or high risk.
A citizen scans the health QR code in Harbin, capital of Northeast China's Heilongjiang province, on March 15, 2020. A green QR code allows its holders to travel across the province or resume work without worrying about coronavirus-related restrictions.
This accurate classification needs to be identifiable and enforceable after the lockdown is relaxed.
After I saw the Shelter in Place order, I asked both my direct manager and HR manager, and they both said that our building will still be operating and reporting to work as of tomorrow.
I also received a company email with some updates about the coronavirus that said all of our retail stores will be closed with pay but will basically still be offering online shopping which means all of our distribution centers will still be open.
My company is a major clothing/beauty retailer like Macy's and Nordstrom. I don't want to name the company I work for. I'm worried because we are still being required to show up to work especially since each shift has probably at least 100 people and everyone has some sort of contact with almost everything. I feel we are a NONessential business but I guess I'll just go to work tomorrow morning and see where it goes from there... Try my best to keep my distance from everyone which is like impossible to do
So I have a small office, only 6 people... everyone else is staying home to work remotely, so if I were to go in, I'd be by myself... think there's any problem with that? Wondering if I'd get pulled over on my way to work in the morning.
If his job is an "essential business," he can travel in/out of the Bay according to the [SF FAQ](https://sf.gov/stay-home-except-essential-needs). "Public infrastructure construction" is considered essential ([order](https://www.sfdph.org/dph/alerts/files/HealthOrderC19-07-%20Shelter-in-Place.pdf)), but I don't think anyone here on Reddit is qualified to determine what exactly qualifies as essential public infrastructure construction. There's a lot of uncertainty right now about all of this. Hopefully his employer will have more guidance.
I breed dogs in Alameda County. My litter is supposed to go home May 9th. I was expecting this lockdown to happen and was thinking of sending the litter home early. Now, May 9th might be a better option.
If the shelter-in-place is extended, do you think families around the Bay Area would be able to come pick up their puppies?
Sending them home is an essential part of my business. I need to send puppies home at 8-9 weeks of age for proper bonding with their families, to ensure proper potty, obedience and crate training. Puppies at that age need individual attention.
Section 10.a.ii. might be used to define picking their puppy as an essential service:
"For purposes of this Order, individuals may leave their residence only to perform any of the following “Essential Activities.” … [ii.] To obtain necessary services or supplies for themselves and their family or household members, or to deliver those services or supplies to others, such as, by way of example only and without limitation, canned food, dry goods, fresh fruits and vegetables, pet supply, fresh meats, fish, and poultry, and any other household consumer products, and products necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences."
My thinking here is that a family member of my client's is at my house and they are coming to pick them up. That is an essential activity.
If I cannot send them home, I am very worried about the puppies. My business is not set up to indefinitely hold puppies - I am a home-based breeder not a kennel.
I think you should be fine, as Section 10.a.i also says "To engage in activities or perform tasks essential to their health and safety, or to the health and safety of their family or household members (including, but not limited to, pets)" -- you are engaging in activities essential to taking care of pet household members. Law enforcement have also been instructed to enforce this using a "compassionate, common sense approach" so I think they will understand why this is necessary for the well-being of the animals, as long as you are following the social distancing protocols and not endangering the public in how this is handled.
The Bay Area "lockdown", leaving your house outside of reasons allowed by local government is now punishable. This is scarier than the virus to me. I never knew local Heath officials and mayors had so much power to strip the rights of Americans at their purview.
I was all on board with the strong guidance but now reported by the news (SJ Mercury) it is punishable, it seems too easy to strip citizen's rights by low ranking officials.
I would say it's fairly likely, but that depends on how tightly they're regiminting flights. The longer this goes the lower your chances of getting back before April 7th, though, as it's likely that this will get much worse before it gets better.
I'm on indefinite lay off as of 5pm today. I was barely holding on with my full paycheck- unemployment only pays a portion. And being home all day will just raise my utility usage... yay, bigger bills.
Something like this will get rolled out, piece-meal, throughout the country. As has been the case since the beginning of this, a lack of federal guidance and leadership means every jurisdiction will have to get ahead of this as much as might still be possible.
If this isn't expanded to include Sonoma, Napa, and Solano it might as well not even take place, as it will continue to spread and as soon as the order is lifted everyone will be infected again. Really should be the whole state with no border crossing except for necessary cargo. The more seriously it is taken the quicker things can resume as normal.
"People may travel for shopping for necessary supplies, accessing health care, and providing aid to family and friends who need assistance, and for non-residents, returning to their home outside the Bay Area. Airports, taxis, and public transit — including BART — will remain operational, but only for essential travel and people are expected to keep six feet apart when possible."
"Grocery stores and pharmacies will remain open, and restaurants may stay open to provide takeout food only. Also staying open: veterinary services, gas stations and auto repair shops, hardware and other home supply stores, banks and laundry services."
I live in a different, smaller, metropolitan area, but this does not sound terrible to me. I do imagine that many folks must be frustrated, and some folks have fragile routines that cannot take much stress, but it seems like many allowances are being made for daily life to continue largely uninterrupted.
What I dislike is how it might be enforced. I am fortunate to usually not be harrassed by police, but many of my neighbors are not so lucky. I don't want to see situations where this sort of emergency sheltering order is used as a pretext for oppression.