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I hope someone writes a script to grab all the books from archive.org before they get pulled. I'd even settle for the lower quality PDF versions.
Constitution of the United States:
"8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
As I read that, the point of copyright is to maximize progress, not to maximize profits. Complete lack of copyright obviously causes authors to not write, but I can't say that current copyright law is anything but profit maximization.
After a couple of hundred years of lawyers getting their mitts on the matter, it's almost like you need to simply start over now and again.
Hi all, mek here. I help run OpenLibrary.org at the Internet Archive.
I've seen a few comments suggesting folks may have questions about what's going on and wanted to be helpful in offering what little context I can.
For those curious, it seems like the NYTimes article is mentioning the Internet Archive's announcement (http://blog.archive.org/2020/06/10/temporary-national-emergency-library-to-close-2-weeks-early-returning-to-traditional-controlled-digital-lending) about ending the National Emergency Library program two weeks earlier than planned (it was always meant to be a temporary program). You might wish to read more about why it was started, here: http://blog.archive.org/2020/03/30/internet-archive-responds-why-we-released-the-national-emergency-library/.
Many who may be newer to the non-profit may not realize the Internet Archive has been serving communities as a non-profit library, with the help of partners, for around 10 years through Controlled Digital Lending (https://controlleddigitallending.org).
For those (like @rhinocerosmonkey) wondering, Internet Archive (which also runs the Wayback Machine and Open Library, an open source book catalog) will be continuing to serve our community and the spirit of our public good mission best we're able. Thank you to our community, which includes many supporters and hundreds of open source contributors, for making OpenLibrary.org a safe place to discover books. If you're interested in helping build the world's open library catalog together, you may learn more here: https://openlibrary.org/volunteer. For those interested, one may also help diversify the Internet Archive's selection and make it a more welcoming, useful, and inclusive place for everyone, by sponsoring the purchase of books & representing voices which are currently missing https://openlibrary.org/sponsorship.
It's fine. Just remember to get literally all your media from the free distributed archive at thepiratebay.org
Fuck giving these assholes a penny.
Not a surprise but unfortunate. Even Neil Gaiman, who was alright with people to reading his books online and share the videos was hard on this.
But as a librarian in an elementary school I directed a couple teachers to it for students doing book reports. Because there wasn't many alternatives: we didn't have the material they needed and the local library wasn't available for anyone who didn't already have an account.
FYI, they will have MILLIONS of things like public domain books staying and available.
And this is why I love reddit
Thank you for telling me about something I didn't even know existed, allthough I'm sad to learn also that its very existence in the future is now in question.
This is all ridiculous. My wife writes Korean e-books. It turns out in that industry authors will routinely publish their entire book episodically on free websites in order to get reader feed back and offers from publishers. Once the novel is finished they will then publish them on pay platforms. The reason this system exists is because there is minimal overlap between audiences which seek free content and those who pay for content.
I’m on my phone so searching is a bit hard atm... r/datahoarder (s) have already archived copies of this offline for re-sharing after the NEL goes down. Right?
Accuses the site that gates content for, checks notes, "oh, yeah, money."
Also, those books weren't in the public domain and they had no permission from the copyright holders to give them away.
Unbelievable how so many book lovers seem to be anti-copyright protection. I guess there are no authors here.
Ahh good... Back to the good ole days when nobles and the rich are the only ones that could afford books... /s
Capitalists ruin fucking everything. Remember how these centrist shitbags always talk about how public libraries are the best thing since sliced bread (which, they are), but then turn around do shit like this. We can't even have fucking books or information be open. Noooooo even fucking ideas need to be ruthlessly monetized.
Wait, if I understood correctly, it means that all this time there were free ebooks on the internet. If so, could someone please tell me how to access it? Thank you!
Every Russian website has free books and not only books. I'm from Russia.
I can only assume they were caught up in the atmosphere of unknown that was COVID... and somehow decided that their actions made sense.
It was poor judgment executed on a huge scale that potentially puts the whole Internet Archive at risk.
I would love to have been able to hear what the discussions were surrounding that decision and if / how they dealt with the obvious objection of "hey guys this is illegal".
The publishers will continue to do what's in their interest (immorally imo), but what they could have done instead was jump onboard and say yes these books will be offered for the duration of the crisis.
Of course, I feel that publishing should be at least partially publicly funded so that copyright wouldn't be a concern and we could read everything for free above production cost and authors would get paid. However, the private system should have at least tried to legitimize itself by providing necessary services for the public instead of continuing to deprive people of what they need out of concern for their own profits.
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