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Source: politico.com ·
The likely Israeli spying efforts were uncovered during the Trump presidency, several former top U.S. officials said.
Nick Szabo⚡️ - @NickSzabo4
3 days ago
RT @mtracey: Israel reportedly attempted to spy on Trump but there have been no consequences. If it were any other country, it'd be a huge national scandal https://t.co/u0t9Oanon4
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Andrea O'Sullivan - @anjiecast
3 days ago
RT @politico: The likely Israeli spying efforts were uncovered during the Trump presidency, several former top U.S. officials said https://t.co/BbTqmgD5PD
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Christian Gagnon - @InEgoVeritas
3 days ago
RT @Ian56789: More Russian Collusion?
Israel accused of planting mysterious spy devices near the White House
https://t.co/qOr6WzuEtY
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Martin2113
11 hs ago
so you can trust them? they didnt spy on the US? they claim they dont spy in the US. is that true?
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j0le1774
10 hs ago
You’re aware the nsa tapped Merkel‘s phone too, the official statement was, no we didn’t (no spying among friends).
Does that mean you can’t trust Americans? Maybe. But the truth is every country has it’s secrets and intelligent services which developed it‘s own agenda, probably next to unknowing politics of the country. They use the incoming informations but don’t question it’s origin.
No need to accuse a whole religion for it.
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Martin2113
10 hs ago
so you can trust them? they didnt spy on the US? they claim they dont spy in the US. is that true?
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j0le1774
10 hs ago
The us did the exact same thing. They said exact same thing. And for sure they both lie.
Can you trust Americans? I would say in the same amount like the us can trust Israel.
We live in in a day and age intelligence agency’s try to tap everything possible, it would be counter intuitive if they didn’t and „trust“ someone.
And for real do you really think the us doesn’t spy on Israel? Do you think they could trust the US?
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Martin2113
10 hs ago
you arent answering. perhaps you are afraid of being accused of anti-antisemitism.
i am not asking if the US did the same thing. i wasnt asking if you can trust the US. i wasnt asking if the US lies.
you are avoiding the questions i asked. thats fine. you are not required to have the confidence to say things that you believe but might get you accused of bigotry. thats interesting.
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HarwellDekatron
8 hs ago
Your question is a fucking dumb question, because you are a fucking dumb person. Everyone spies on everyone. Falling for anti-Semitic tropes (the 'sneaky jew' shit is straight 8chan galaxy brain territory) distracts you from the actual concern: how do we protect ourselves from adversarial spying, if the dumb motherfucking President will dismiss spying for political gain.
In other words, you are just another useful idiot. Congratulations.
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Martin2113
8 hs ago
hey man you dont have to be afraid. you can admit the jews spy on us. i know politics these days is about performative piety, and you cant say things on the restricted list. you dont have to be afraid. truth is all the defense you need.
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HarwellDekatron
8 hs ago
I'm happy to admit *Israel* spies on us. I don't give a shit about the religious background. Or do you go around saying Muslims and Christians spy on us?
You seem to focus way too much on that. Again, useful idiot.
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j0le1774
9 hs ago
Ok
You started your comment with „you can’t trust the Jews“ oldsurehand pointed out the clear anti semitism in this statement. You didn’t accused Israel but the „Jews“.
I pointed out that the country you live in did the exact same thing with the same excuse.
But you want that I agree on you that we can’t trust the Jews.
I think I made my point. Intelligence agencies spy on other countries , that their job to ensure the supremacy of your country.
Yeah indeed I think it is damnable but we live in capitalism so it’s existential, that’s the reason all countries have intelligence agencies that try to outsmart each other, and have IT Defence.
I think not that Israel or the Jews are a solitary case and you’re fuckt if you trust them. They are like every other country. Maybe way more clever than others.
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Martin2113
9 hs ago
if there is anti-semitism for saying we cant trust them, is there also anti-X in your statement about not trusting the other folks you mentioned for spying?
if my country does the exact same thing, and cannot be trusted, then are we not talking about two groups who cannot be trusted, and you agree with my original point?
you just avoid the question with whataboutism. of course i know you cant trust the americans! you cant trust any people with the means to spy, inclusding the jews and their nation, israel. but i wasnt talking about the americans, or the brits, or the french, none of whom can be trusted. i was talking about the group you are scared to discuss honestly. seems anti-semitic to treat them by a lower standard, where we cannot speak the truth about them.
seems like you are pretty eager to list groups you cant trust, but not the folks i originally mentioned. thats what is so interesting.
why is it when i ask you if you can trust group X, you dont answer, but list other groups you cannot trust?
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j0le1774
9 hs ago
Let’s put it this way before I go to bed: you can’t trust humans in power.
Their goal is to ensure the wellbeing of your country. So they fuck all others, friends and enemies.
This includes Israel politicians,not Jews in general (and that’s the whole point of our argument) and every other country including yours and mine, but not you can’t trust Christians.
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MimmsBoy
2 days ago
Can you imagine the shit storm this would have created, true or false, if it was found to be Russian or China. I'm sure they will try and blame Huawei.
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Stenwalden
2 days ago
Lemme guess without giving this rag any clicks: the devices are not "mysterious" and no actual source besides "some anonymous person told me in the pub" is provided?
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dptraynor
2 days ago
Which seems a waste of resources when you consider that they could just ask Trump for any information they want.
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AlaaMHaimour
2 days ago
That's actually what Trump said.. “I really would find that hard to believe, my relationship with Israel has been great...I wouldn’t believe that story. Anything’s possible but I don’t believe it.”
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FertileCavaties
2 days ago
Well no shit. You can make an IMSI catcher for $400 now days and just stand by the White House fence and farm for days
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STL_Jayhawk
2 days ago
The Trump Regime won't have any issues with this since their Middle East policy is dictated by Benny.
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MovieMcMovieFace
2 days ago
I want to comment, but don’t want to be downvoted into oblivion for getting political.
As close as I can get without getting political: cell phones are more susceptible than people think. Look at the most recent SIM card/sms vulnerability.
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gabriels_feather
2 days ago
Very interesting that it is even being reported on by mainstream news? I wonder what this could mean for relations and what Trump's response will be.
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LeoLaDawg
2 days ago
I remember an article from years ago...at least five....about speculation on who was installing and using the fake towers that people had found in cities. It was assumed the US government back then.
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SlinginCats
2 days ago
DC resident here. If you are on a cell phone in the DMV, it is safe to assume you are connected to a stingray at all times. This is especially true for the White House and near any embassy.
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barath_s
2 days ago
Should have planted less mysterious spy devices; like Avi berkowitz or jared kushner.
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petunia666
2 days ago
Surprised to find the Jews doing something Jewish again. Wow imagine my shock.
No actually that is total sarcasm. I am not shocked at all. America is Israel’s bitch, and they treat us like a dungeon rape slave.
Dungeon rape slaves do not rebuke their masters after beatings, do they?
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petunia666
2 days ago
Surprised to find the Jews doing something Jewish again. Wow imagine my shock.
No actually that is total sarcasm. I am not shocked at all. America is Israel’s bitch, and they treat us like a dungeon rape slave.
Dungeon rape slaves do not rebuke their masters after beatings, do they?
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CaptOblivious
2 days ago
This is why previous presidents have always used special, secured, phones.
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getlasterror
2 days ago
Politico serves an Islamist / Leftist agenda, I wouldn't believe a word from what they write
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Iconoclast123
2 days ago
Israel denies report, and Trump says he doesn't believe it:
https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Trump-says-he-does-not-believe-Israel-is-spying-on-the-US-601555
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sulaymanf
2 days ago
This shouldn’t be news, Israel has spied on the US for decades, and we have case after case to prove it.
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sulaymanf
2 days ago
I completely agree, this should be publicized, what I meant was nobody is reporting the long history of previous attempts, like Jonathan Pollard. They’re printing Netanyahu’s denial without fact checking it.
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chilehead
2 days ago
But Netanyahu said no one inside Israel is spying in the United States.
Because that would require being in two places at once.
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ToeJammies
3 days ago
Like they haven't done this for decades.
The US spies on all of its allies also.
Spy vs Spy
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