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Source: nbc12.com ·
Chief Smith says last night protesters set fire to a few buildings, including a multi-family residence that was occupied by a child.
Chandra Duggirala MD - @csentropy
3 months ago
RT @NumbersMuncher: Protestors set fire to a building that had a child inside and then attempted to block the fire engine from getting there to put the fire out.
Thankfully firefighters were able to save the family, but the people that did this are absolute monsters.
https://t.co/Dgfxex5pdO
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Nick Szabo⚡️ - @NickSzabo4
3 months ago
RT @NumbersMuncher: Protestors set fire to a building that had a child inside and then attempted to block the fire engine from getting there to put the fire out.
Thankfully firefighters were able to save the family, but the people that did this are absolute monsters.
https://t.co/Dgfxex5pdO
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Ragnar Lifthrasir ⚑ - @Ragnarly
3 months ago
RT @NumbersMuncher: Protestors set fire to a building that had a child inside and then attempted to block the fire engine from getting there to put the fire out.
Thankfully firefighters were able to save the family, but the people that did this are absolute monsters.
https://t.co/Dgfxex5pdO
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Preston Byrne - @prestonjbyrne
3 months ago
RT @ZaidJilani: In Richmond, rioters set fire to a multi-family residence that was occupied by a child and then tried to block the fire crew from rescuing the child. https://t.co/9lNc57jvDq
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Unsure_if_Relevant
3 months ago
Even though he is spewing false information and doing so to rationalize his police force gassing its citizens....
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JimiSlew3
3 months ago
Maybe there is an aspect of the protests that I'm missing but I don't think it is acceptable to stop any emergency services to make a point. If my infant has to die in a fire so that someone's voice can be heard then they are clearly in the wrong.
This does not make police violence acceptable. It does not make protests wrong. It does not make racism right. It does not take power from the people or empower the government over the people.
There is no need to stop ambulances, firetrucks, and I daresay even police cars en route to a location. People might be dying, babies burning, and women being raped, who will help if these services are stopped? Despite the protests shit is still happening and we rely on these services to help. Let them pass for God's sake.
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openeyes756
3 months ago
Yeah, he gave DC reinforcements to commit their fascist takeover of DC. This is a tragedy, but fuck this guy's crocodile tears. Children were in the crowds unjustly attacked with gas and rubber bullets. Both of those can be lethal to healthy adults let alone children. He is just trying not to waste a good tragedy.
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ParkerIndustries616
3 months ago
If only he got that emotional when white cops kill Innocent black people. But I guess that’s more acceptable.
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Mist_Rising
3 months ago
This was posted about 25hrs ago, so I expect this to be removed. I still find it sick that someone tried to burn a child, they can burn in hell.
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Dark_Zer0
3 months ago
Ive been seeing this story, but have found zero evidence from FD or any videos, etc, beside just a police cheif saying a story that doesnt fully match up with people blocking way. Not saying it didnt happen, just looking for if any more info.
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FurRealDeal
3 months ago
That's exactly what I came here for and haven't found it. With all the cameras rolling everywhere you'd think there would be ONE video of this happening...
I hate the phrase but I almost wanna call fake news.. I've seen conferences where deaths are discussed and they don't get nearly this choked up. Add in the over emphasized pauses and it feels like bad acting. I need to see some proof.
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guoski
3 months ago
I hope all the people who asked why anyone would ever need an AR-15 with a 50-round magazine are reevaluating their position.
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kramftw
3 months ago
Fair statement:
“When you take a legitimate issue and hijack it for unknown reasons, that is unacceptable to me, it’s unacceptable to the Richmond Police Department, unacceptable to the city of Richmond,” said Smith.
I have been confused lately about a situation like this. Isn't the entire purpose of the riot gear and NatGuard escalation to ensure access to basic services and movement of emergency responders? The gas and gear allows them to disperse the crowd semi forcibly bust mostly safely to enable freedom movement for those who need it. I feel like the use of the gas and gear has been just for giggles and shits on behalf of the riot teams lately.
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ShaggysGTI
3 months ago
I’m pretty sure that some of those that use them don’t see them as tools to help maintain order, and instead see them as toys.
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borkus
3 months ago
I think the issue is how you define "protester". During the protests Saturday night, individuals in the area of the protest set the building on fire. Were the people who did it protestors? Or just angry or drunk or deliberate agitators?
The frightening thing about Saturday in downtown Richmond is we came really close to losing human lives from actions done by people on the street. Between the apartment fire and the shooting, it's fortunate that no one died.
What I don't buy into is the false dichotomy of unchecked mob violence vs unchecked police use of force. Those aren't our only two options.
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IndWrist
Commonwealth Afficianado 3 months ago
*Only an authoritarian would see its own citizens as enemy combatants.
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wellstgrnpa
3 months ago
When you start setting fires you are no longer a protester. You are a terrorist.
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KorbenVA
3 months ago
RVA heavily disagrees with this. In fact if you look at the comments here nobody is really addressing the topic. Deflect, pivot, etc
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AM_Kylearan
3 months ago
They tried to burn down a home with a child in it. Then they blocked access by the fire department. Get out of here yourself.
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augie_wartooth
3 months ago
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/richmond-fire-and-rpd-share-different-versions-of-early-morning-fire-rescue
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Sardorim
3 months ago
Or the one who did this has no connection to the Protesters.
Course that thought never crossed your mind.
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Unsure_if_Relevant
3 months ago
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/richmond-fire-and-rpd-share-different-versions-of-early-morning-fire-rescue
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augie_wartooth
3 months ago
Yeah, I'm definitely going to believe exactly what the cops say about a protest against police brutality.
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Unsure_if_Relevant
3 months ago
https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/richmond-fire-and-rpd-share-different-versions-of-early-morning-fire-rescue
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EmperorsCanaries
3 months ago
Maybe also tell his officers to stop committing crimes against its citizens while he's showing concern
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AM_Kylearan
3 months ago
What crimes would those be, that the Richmond police committed?
edit: and more importantly, why was a child punished?
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EmperorsCanaries
3 months ago
Yeah IDK, maybe aggravated assault? Infringement of human rights? 1A violations? If you think it's ok to assault protestors (even before curfew, not that it should matter) who are in no way threatening violence or property destruction and are breaking no laws then we have different morals.
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DrSandbags
3 months ago
Just posting this for other neutral readers to see, since anyone asking this question so confrontationally when all the world can see what's going on in Richmond and in other cities is definitely not asking in good faith.
https://twitter.com/jackaconnelly/status/1267603080725610500?s=19
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encogneeto
3 months ago
> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The low-hanging fruit would be the police breaking the peace by [launching teargas into a peaceful protest](https://youtu.be/LG_HMghyQZc)
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Slatemanforlife
3 months ago
All of our rights are subject to reasonable restriction. Or at least that was the accepted justification for prohibiting religious gatherings when COVID was a concern. Or the passing of a requirement for ID to exercise second amendment rights.
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encogneeto
3 months ago
I’m not sure what your point is in the context of the current conversation.
> All of our rights are subject to reasonable restriction.
Agreed. There were no reasonable restrictions that were violated by the peaceful protesters in the video I linked to before the Richmond Police started firing teargas into the crowd.
> Or at least that was the accepted justification for prohibiting religious gatherings when COVID was a concern.
Religious gatherings were never singled out for prohibition which is precisely why the restrictions affecting them were not unconstitutional. The restrictions were against gatherings with certain characteristics (size, ability to maintain distance, etc...) and applied equally to all gatherings, religious or otherwise.
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blorence
3 months ago
I get emotional thinking about the 5,000 peaceful protesters gassed without warning at the lawful assembly
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encogneeto
3 months ago
As awful as that is, what kills me is the **intentional** disruption of a peaceful protest to discredit it.
The heartbreaking part is it's not some external bad actors which I'd naively believed before, its **the police themselves**. Their job should be to **PROTECT** the peaceful protesters.
We've heard about this forever, but at least now we have video evidence.
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random_dudy
3 months ago
Afros have low iq and a low intellectual ability that's why they need to act like barbarians the fact that they can't articulate their thoughts and put forward a structured arguments make it a normal response from them to act like animals
Just look at Sudan and Somalia both nations have rents in oil but they can't exploit these resources to enrich themselves and their population unlike the gulf counterparts
Even Japan didn't have any natural resources but they conquer Manchuria in China and defeated Russia in 1904 05 war
What people don't understand is that the African society is and has been never been united, they can pretend all they want now but ever since the Berlin conference the Africans were divided based on the colonial ambitions of the European nations but not on lines of linguistic or ethnic basis
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StuckeyPhotography
3 months ago
Thanks child rapist, Donald Trump, for asking people bring violence to a peaceful protest
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PatrioticNuclearCum
3 months ago
thats attempted murder. lock up those fuckers. you dont block a fire engine EVER.
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bed-stain
3 months ago
I think all arson charges of an occupied dwelling should be either premeditated murder or attempted murder
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SelectCattle
3 months ago
In the Watts riots they shot at firefighters. In Baltimore people were cutting fire hoses. There is something intoxicating about violence.
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cadburyegg101
3 months ago
My heart breaks for the victims of bad police, no matter what race. But hurting more people won’t change the fact that the injustice occurred. There has to be a better way, we have to be better than this
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democi
3 months ago
Ah yes fighting fire with fire. Let’s kill random citizenry to solve the killing random citizenry problem.
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ItsAChristianCoup
3 months ago
Tit for tat. Isnt that the Murican way?
Lets stop voting too. As AG bar said, we might have fraud from foreign nations. That's a good reason to stop that thing too! /s
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ItsAChristianCoup
3 months ago
Technically the US has the most cyberwar trolls on the internet.
It explains quite a few things the past decade.
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hijinx1986
3 months ago
Man... if only the police and the government wouldnt have created these riots and protests in the first place.
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BootyFista
Fiscal Conservative 3 months ago
So fucking disappointed in my city
I'm all for the protests and what they stand for. But this shit is fucking criminally absurd.
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