That's so cool! I'm not the biggest scuttlebutt fan because it doesn't let you delete/edit old entries, but this looks like one of the first mobile decentralized social network out there, and decentralized isn't going anywhere if it doesn't work on mobile too.
hi Nomikos, yes there are many other desktop [apps that run on the same Scuttlebutt protocol](https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/applications), the most popular of which is [Patchwork](https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/applications#patchwork). Manyverse is only the latest app in the ecosystem. :)
Thank you, ahdinosaur, this is really interesting. I had looked at tent.io and diaspora and a few others and even considered coding something from scratch.. but here it is. Here's hoping for mass adoption!
How does this actually work? It vaguely says that it can sync via wifi (which makes sense) or the Internet (which needs explaining). If I have a friend that lives in another state, how do we sync each other's content so we can see updates without being on the same physical local network?
hi hexydes, you can sync over wifi using either [pubs](https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/concepts/pub) (peers who are always online and have a public ip address) or Manyverse added [direct p2p connections using a DHT](https://github.com/mafintosh/discovery-swarm). in both cases, either the pub or one DHT peer creates an invite code, sends it through some external channel to the other peer, who consumes the invite code.
hope that helps! if not, happy to answer more questions. `=^.^=`
the pubs are normal peers, so as with any peer you replicate the latest gossip from mutual friends. we're keen to evolve them to be more like another device (%Gwqklkj0b2CBT5tPiz5170NWsPp3xiuLbOImEaG/e+4=.sha256) that the pub owner controls and use them to bootstrap direct peer-to-peer connections (%iqXoP//+WnBt3UhTKK2uKjlV4EojMn8IjY5/rSLKdPY=.sha256).
Does SSB still make it impossible to share a single identity across multiple devices? (I.e. I'd like to log into my identity from my laptop but see that same identity's feed on my phone.)
I want to participate, but periodically I check https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/faq/applications/multiple-devices... and it hasn't changed, and for me, having a single device to which the entirety of my identity is tied is a non-starter. Even so, the tech seems interesting, and I hope that limitation goes away one day.
This actually sounds like a pretty great idea. Self hosting content is the only reliable way to prevent the perverse incentives and costs of centralization. But only having mobile apps for it makes it useless.
I really do like SSB in concept, but I am kinda sad that it seems to fit mainly for social networks. I would like to see something more discussion/topic focused than user centric, but of course with the whole peer to peer and offline aspects.
One of my issues with Secure Scuttlebutt is that it is difficult to participate unless you already know other people there. I joined and began messaging other users and commenting on the community hashtags - only to discover that no one was going to get my messages until they subscribed to me. This means that I either need to message those users outside of the network - or I need to run into them irl.
Is this a feature of SSB or a bug? I mean once I'm in the network and well-entrenched, I could see it being a feature. But how do I even get to that point? (Oh and does Manyverse address this at all? Sorry I don't have Android.)
I like the concept and installed the android app.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't call it a beta version. I would say alpha since it seems to ... lack a lot. I was even unable to report a bug via the in-app mail link. Got a response that there is no such project on gitlab ;)