I always wanted to see a Matrix story about someone being able to leave the Matrix on their own because of a faulty connection or something to that effect and they escape accidentally. They could find Zion and it turns out that everyone had been exterminated hundreds of years ago. The character would find all the remnants of the war, a statue of Neo, and billions of skeletons from a second war after the fact. I feel like there's a lot that can be done with that kind of script. They could even walk around the destroyed futuristic cities seeing the effects of the war between humans and machines.
Matrix Rebooted. More Animatrix ideas, hopefully, less Revolutions. Takes it somewhere else the sequels didn't, though admittedly I didn't think we needed any sequels after the first to begin with. One thing we didn't get to see was the other characters discovering what was going on, rather just Neo. Many of them forgetting and slowly picking up on something being wrong, eventually coming together might be a way to do it... similar to the first and third seasons of Stranger Things where they have independent journeys that converge later. Explaining why Neo could do stuff in the "real world" because it's like the Thirteenth Floor and they were still in the Matrix. Zion was in the matrix simulation still. That'd make a reboot completely possible or at least from a sort of save game point after the first movie or even before that. It'd also give them a reason to throw out that human battery nonsense, since that would now be a lie intended to give them a backstory. They might be software, too. Interesting possibilities as to why they're obsessed with humans that they'd recreate them in the matrix if they're all gone anyway now after they wiped them out. Maybe the AI is basically bored and needs something to do like humans did? It needs someone to play with. The last time they interacted with real humans, the game ended abruptly. "Let's play a game. Global Thermonuclear War."
I'm probably an outlier re: the Wachowskis - I don't much like any of the Matrix films, and I love their other films (apart from Jupiter Ascending, but does anybody like that?). Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite films of this decade, Speed Racer is a misunderstood near-masterpiece and better than almost every other pop-culture retread of this century, and Bound is excellent as well. Haven't caught up to their TV series yet but it's on the shortlist. The Matrix films though always seemed half-baked and silly and the first film is one of the early examples of the washed-out near-monochrome visual look that I hate so much. To be fair I've only seen the sequels once each, on video, but I saw the original new and 10 years later and had the same reaction both times. I will at some point watch them again and the Animatrix, because I picked up the BD box set a couple of years ago in one of my fits of stupidity; it's certainly possible I'll get more out of them, at least the first, now, and I have gotten to tolerate Ka-noo-noo more over the years. But I can't say I'm looking forward at all to another film.
As to why it's happening, money, duh. These films are the only hits the filmmakers have had, and they probably aren't getting a lot of offers or having much success getting anything else more personal/less commercial beyond the idea stage; maybe the thought is, another one of these and they can make something else more interesting? That's my best hope anyway, though the fact that only one of them is currently involved is strange, don't know what that signifies.
Yes, I can’t find anything about any kind of reason for the absence of Lilly, the other Wachowski sibling, and it is indeed weird that this Variety article and all the other press I’ve read about this just gloss over it like it’s nothing. I guess no one knows why at this point. I also find it interesting that Lana Wachowski’s co-writers for this new Matrix are both novelists, one of them being David Mitchell himself, author of the Cloud Atlas book.
I hope you’re right about an ulterior motive (you know, aside from MONEY) for the Wachowski (singular) going back to the well here, in that if the Matrix property still ends up raking in cash, we can get another Cloud Atlas-type ambitious, original project again.
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Lilly had taken an absence for season 2 of sense8 as well. I think at the time the reason said was for her taking some personal time after coming out.
Ah OK, thanks. Yeah I was hoping there wasn’t some kind of friction between the two. I did some further digging, it sounds like Lilly just isn’t too interested in filmmaking at this point, particularly sci-fi.
Did you just call that humorous 4th wall bit where they make fun of themselves, their "deep themes" and fans who were expecting an "enlightning" twist at the end of that vidya, instead presenting a schlocky giant boss fight, "fart huffing"? Are you a mental patient?
I've yet to see that. I just remembered in the Matrix-lore, though, that when you die in the Matrix, you in-turn die in the real world. So if the real world is just another Matrix, wherein Trinity and Neo both have died, will not the same rules apply to the true real world?
Either way there's all sorts of possibilities in the Cyberpunk subgenre; with things like this, programs, archiving of consciousness and whathaveyou.
One reason I've grown to hate cyperpunk. It's pure fantasy. Anything and everything is considered possible in the genre whether it follows the rules of the real world or not. There's nothing wrong with fantasy but I consider this a bait-and-switch, and an excuse to use established tropes instead of coming up with anything new.
Why?????? I've just recently rewatched the entire trilogy and it ends in a perfect way. Trinity and Neo both die for the cause, the ending feels meaningful and powerful. And now...they are back?
Like....I'm sure there could be more stories worth telling in that universe. Maybe about how the new peace with the machines is going. But bringing Trinity and Neo back seems like....a huge mistake. Of course it's impossible to judge a movie until we see it, but I don't have a good feeling about this.
Not sure how 20-year-older Neo and Trinity would work with canon, but I'd welcome a reboot if Wachowskis are allowed full creative control. WB wanting more action was a big part of what killed the quality of the original sequels.
I hope Matrix 4 explores how Neo expresses disgust with humanity, as in, becoming more like Smith, and Trinity now kills him.
Anything that continues the saga with a goody-two-shoes Neo at this stage is... boring. He's too powerful not to be a villain?