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Chris Burniske - @cburniske
1 month ago
"What team will win the @reddit scaling bakeoff challenge?"
#ZKsync from @the_matter_labs in the lead @Omen_eth: https://t.co/aNLgpIHwU4
(h/t @alexhevans) https://t.co/lREFF2DABW
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Balaji S. Srinivasan - @balajis
1 month ago
Check out the video and PDF arguments on either side of the Kleros decentralized court case.
This is a formal process for people to adjudicate what is really true when money is on the line, rather than depending on any single news source. https://t.co/IsbmaXCrlH
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alex van de sande (4 character handle ? me : bot) - @avsa
2 months ago
Interesting arbitrage, these markets have very different percentages (30% and 50%) for the outcome of ether 2.0 not delivering this year. And if you buy them to equalize, you're putting up a bounty for the delivery.
https://t.co/F6mGNFiFPf
https://t.co/cqiqRdZC0s
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John Lilic - @JohnLilic
2 months ago
witness the genesis of another layer to the #defi ecosystem: prediction markets @gnosisPM #Ethereum https://t.co/luhj7mD9nN
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Juan Benet - @juanbenet
2 months ago
RT @3boxdb: The @Omen_eth prediction market by @Dxdao_ is live using @3boxdb for decentralized commenting.
Also uses @graphprotocol @BalancerLabs @IPFS @ensdomains @daostack @gnosisSafe. Such an awesome display of decentralization at its finest. Kudos to all!
Try👉 https://t.co/Rd10fbt778 https://t.co/byyA7PzqmL https://t.co/n8kAGRvJzi
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Jeff Garzik - @jgarzik
2 months ago
RT @elidourado: I predicted this!
A fully decentralized and permissionless prediction market. The holy grail.
Check it out at omen.eth if you have a web3-enabled browser.
https://t.co/6QLTqvV8BV also works if you don’t. https://t.co/J3SszS5YAE
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Martin Köppelmann - @koeppelmann
2 months ago
RT @elidourado: I predicted this!
A fully decentralized and permissionless prediction market. The holy grail.
Check it out at omen.eth if you have a web3-enabled browser.
https://t.co/6QLTqvV8BV also works if you don’t. https://t.co/J3SszS5YAE
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Wong Joon Ian - @joonian
2 months ago
RT @elidourado: I predicted this!
A fully decentralized and permissionless prediction market. The holy grail.
Check it out at omen.eth if you have a web3-enabled browser.
https://t.co/6QLTqvV8BV also works if you don’t. https://t.co/J3SszS5YAE
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sitbus-dapsup
2 months ago
Worth mentioning that the [poly.market](https://poly.market) one is for whether or not it'll be launched by July 28th rather than by August 1st.
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i_like_dolphins_
2 months ago
How will the answer be fed? Can we see the smart contract for this bet?
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belizeth
2 months ago
I believe all Omen markets use Kleros as Arbiter/Oracle. Yes, you can view on Etherscan.
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belizeth
2 months ago
Omen contract on Etherscan:
https://etherscan.io/address/0x89023DEb1d9a9a62fF3A5ca8F23Be8d87A576220
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nicknle
2 months ago
https://youtu.be/NuSps_2wMQ4
That's a nice explainer on how kleros works to resolve omen prediction markets. Essentially Kleros jurors stake PNK to take part as jurors, they earn free for voting with the majority on an arbitration case, they lose their stake if they vote incorrectly.
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EvanVanNess
Platinum | QC: ETH 521 | TraderSubs 107 2 months ago
I put a massive bet on yes because I think it's a no brainer.
https://twitter.com/evan_van_ness/status/1281648628306604032
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samsedar
2 months ago
Cardano staking is launching soon.
Pretty soon all the "ETH Killers" will have staking so ... ETH better start to hurry up.
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Square-Clothes
2 months ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/cardano/comments/gtzqox/comment/fsfn145?context=1
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polskib0y
2 months ago
So, ETH doesn't have smart contracts on 2.0 either? This will also take them some time to implement.
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NJD21
2 months ago
That won't be the case for long.
[https://twitter.com/foufnir/status/1278704412760977408?s=20](https://twitter.com/foufnir/status/1278704412760977408?s=20)
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SwagtimusPrime
2 months ago
And then? Do you think they will pump an entire DeFi ecosystem out of the ground within a month? It will take them years to get to the size of the Ethereum ecosystem, and then Ethereum will have ETH 2.0
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NJD21
2 months ago
I don't expect them too. But the supply shocks from staking will be enough for strong uptrends. It's why I own both. Staking is the future.
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krokodilmannchen
2 months ago
You could check my conversation with Danny Ryan on Eth2.0 progress: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikSK8V9yapQ
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InquisitiveBoba
2 months ago
They need to make sure it works like 100%. Otherwise people will lose money, lots of money. I say wait until 2020 is over, this year is cursed! Q1 2021 with a final testnet ran over the holidays.
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PettyHoe
2 months ago
Here's a data point, at Status we have a 4-month long Nimbus audit planned across multiple vendors that starts in a few weeks. This audit encompasses the beacon chain and underlying networking.
Please remind yourself that we've learned a lot of lessons from the ETH1 launch and are attempting to plan and release something that addresses a lot of the short commings of that role out.
Rushing critical infrastructure of a multi-billion dollar network is generally a bad idea.
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eastsideski
2 months ago
Nobody knows.
Afri said maybe by the end of the year, maybe 2021.
People keep asking for time estimates, then getting upset when those estimates aren't met. It'll be here when it's here. There's like 10 different teams of really smart people working their ass of on it.
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TwilightShadow1
2 months ago
I think this is the kind of thing that’s left folks like me disenchanted with crypto in general. It all seemed so great and futuristic at the time, but when it comes to financial stuff (and I know that there’s much more potential than just money, but that was always the original promise of blockchain-based currencies), having deadlines and schedules that can be met is super important, and as those keep slipping, it casts a lot of doubt in my mind over blockchain tech in general.
If it can’t scale, then it will eventually be dead tech.
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eastsideski
2 months ago
SpaceX has missed countless deadlines, they're notorious for it. But would you say they're not doing amazing things?
Also Ethereum is scaling just fine without ETH 2.0. Have you tried Loopring?
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eastsideski
2 months ago
You should try it.
It's only been live for about a month, it will take time for other apps to start integrating.
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TwilightShadow1
2 months ago
I haven’t been involved much in ethereum since the big crash.
I haven’t heard of loopring. There are certainly a lot of neat projects on ethereum. I think, in the end, they will have to become much more mainstream for crypto to make a comeback in the general public’s mind though.
Edit: and regarding deadlines, it’s one thing to miss a deadline, adjust, and then have something to show for it at the end of the adjustment period. The difference is that SpaceX actually has something that they can show, and I’m sitting here, 8 years later, still waiting for Ethereum 2.0, and out several thousand bucks from HODLing onto promises that never materialized.
Edit 2: and I recognize the importance of this working correctly so that no one loses anything and the blockchain isn’t harmed in the process, it’s just that I’ve begun to wonder if 2.0 will ever really be ready if it’s taken this long already without any tangible results for the public.
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eastsideski
2 months ago
> I haven’t been involved much in ethereum since the big crash.
> I haven’t heard of loopring.
> SpaceX actually has something that they can show, and I’m sitting here, 8 years later, still waiting for Ethereum 2.0
If you don't follow the project anymore, how can you say there's nothing to show for it?
I have trouble keeping up with all the crazy things happening each week, whether it's the explosion of DeFi & yield farming, the ~20 different companies competing over scaling, enterprise tech and financial companies getting involved, privacy tech, etc.
It sounds like you're not actually waiting for new technology, you're hoping for the price to rise and hoping that ETH 2.0 will bring that.
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TwilightShadow1
2 months ago
I didn’t say that I *don’t* follow it, just that I don’t follow it *as much.* Joe off the street doesn’t have to follow fin-tech company innovations to be able to use them.
Having trouble keeping up with all the stuff going on is exactly the problem. Yeah it’s producing tech which is cool to read about, but if someone on the street were to ask me “hey, how do I get involved with ethereum”, I wouldn’t even be able to tell them where to begin anymore because I don’t know anymore myself.
And yeah, I would like the price to go up. Who wouldn’t? That’s what gets the public interested in crypto. I know ethereum is so much more than that, and maybe I’m wrong about 2.0, but it’s hard to get enthused with it when there’s a lack of enthusiasm from outside the community.
Edit: let me phrase it a different way: how could you convince me to get involved again?
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eastsideski
2 months ago
> how could you convince me to get involved again?
Well I don't know your interests and level of knowledge
> if someone on the street were to ask me “hey, how do I get involved with ethereum”
I'd say "Install Dharma. It's like Venmo, but it works across the world and you can earn a higher interest rate than any savings account"
Next step after Dharma is Argent. Both projects are easy enough that normal people can use them and provide real-world value. Peope don't even need to know they're using a blockchain.
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HairyGuch
2 months ago
I would say use BlockFi as savings and Argent as checking. And MetaMask as the Argent Guardian
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eastsideski
2 months ago
Well if someone asked how to get introduced to Ethereum, I wouldn't recommend BlockFi, since it's CeFi
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TwilightShadow1
2 months ago
Thank you for the earnest reply. I'm a software developer and my main area of work is data transformation.
Also the Dharma recommendation is a nice idea for an introduction. I wouldn't have thought of that. Thanks!
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NaabKing
2 months ago
Remember when people used to make fun of BTC-s Lightning Network being 18 months away?
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/412/134/a47.jpg
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noerc
2 months ago
Afri paints a rough picture about upcoming milestones in this interview: https://www.okex.com/academy/en/eth-core-and-infrastructure-devs-on-eth-2-0-roadmap-challenges-and-expectations-recap
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Kike328
2 months ago
There's no timeline, they set up the testnet, they try to take it down, look for failures in the clients implementations and when they think that I good and all clients has been running smoothly then, they'll launch the mainnet
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NJD21
2 months ago
Is this a multiclient testnet and are there any social media channels you'd recommend to get the latest scoop (Discord, Telegram, etc)?
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SwagtimusPrime
2 months ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/hktqvf/eth_20_dev_update_53_altona_testnet_launched/
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Kike328
2 months ago
I only get my news from here, reddit. Altona (the current testnet) is multiclient, yes and I think is already running
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moonpumper
2 months ago
I feel like proof of stake has been right around the corner for years. I was mining in 2016 and it was like 6 months to a year away.
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SuddenMind
2 months ago
January, then Q1, then July, then Q3, now Q4? I remember when they were talking about doing the staking contract last year before DevCon and it's still not live.
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InquisitiveBoba
2 months ago
Dawgs, this will be the foundation of a 100k tps network, it needs to be battle tested.
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NZvolunarist
2 months ago
Did they know about it before, when were promising it by DevCon or by January?
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polskib0y
2 months ago
all he said was "No But keep buying", all are welcome and should not discriminate based on handle names. This is a big enough industry, many users on reddit support multiple projects.
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oldskool47
2 months ago
I said nothing about the username. I do think this borders on price discussion and does not belong here. Have a nice day.
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Cardanoad
2 months ago
I like both I didn't buy when ETH was 0.80
So Cardano is my way of buying my self a rental home 🏡
I'm still buying ETH just more ADA
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