RT @mattblaze: Not to in any way diminish this (excellent) work, but the fact that an online mobile voting scheme has serious security flaws is ultimately unsurprising. Every serious expert has warned against Intenet voting. The people making the extraordinary claims here are Voatz, not MIT. https://t.co/YSvEWznuG3
I cant understand for the life of me who keeps pushing for electronic voting machines. I dont remember anyone asking for them. Who is it thats hell bent on pushing these? With Tax payer money....They are obviously very insecure, and may never be secure enough that I would trust them. These need to be pulled and banned for now. If we are even going to allow something like this to happen, there needs to be an open source framework created. With code audited very closely. Actually you know what....scratch that. There are too many ways to exploit an electronic voting machine. Either software, or hardware, or MITM, or the databases where votes are kept. Then try and have every device inspected before election day. Such a huge waste of money, and going to create so many problems. In all honesty we may as well just stay at home and vote over the internet on computer or phones. You would think, if certain agencies who know of a million ways to exploit a device/system, and were serious about protecting the integrity of our election system and democracy. They would act and soon. Republican, Democrat or third party. This is bad for everyone. Do we really want Russia, or China, or anyone else to have the ability to alter vote count? Whether on the Voting machine or database. No candidate that loses, or their party and voters will ever believe the results. They dont now, the difference is, its difficult to "misplace" tens of millions of paper hard copies. There can be a recount. With digital votes.....Computers never lie.
When I state the obvious I feel better about myself. When I have too many beers, I type alot. I also want a public record of my opinions about electronic voting so that when an incident happens. I can say that I tried to tell everyone, but they wouldnt listen.
In the 2018 midterm elections, West Virginia became the
first state in the U.S. to allow select voters to cast their ballot on a mobile phone via a proprietary app called “Voatz.”
Although there is no public formal description of Voatz’s security model, the company claims that election security and
integrity are maintained through the use of a permissioned
blockchain, biometrics, a mixnet, and hardware-backed key
storage modules on the user’s device. In this work, we present
the first public security analysis of Voatz, based on a reverse
engineering of their Android application and the minimal
available documentation of the system. We performed a cleanroom reimplementation of Voatz’s server and present an analysis of the election process as visible from the app itself.
We find that Voatz has vulnerabilities that allow different
kinds of adversaries to alter, stop, or expose a user’s vote,
including a sidechannel attack in which a completely passive
network adversary can potentially recover a user’s secret ballot. We additionally find that Voatz has a number of privacy
issues stemming from their use of third party services for
crucial app functionality. Our findings serve as a concrete
illustration of the common wisdom against Internet voting,
and of the importance of transparency to the legitimacy of
In here, we use paper ballots and manual count. Voting, from arrival to departure of voting stations is usually 5 min, even without my notice to vote. We usually gets results in hours. Even in national elections.
We can register as voter on a check box on our income tax form, agreeing the tax people to send my name and address and citizenship to the election office. You can also register online, by mail, in person, even in person on voting day.
Unless we can get every voter in the country to not click on any links of any sort, use strong passwords, use different passwords for every system they log into, not talk to strangers on the internet, not use old phones that can't update... I mean that's just the beginning of the list.
Now is not the time for this shit. Voting on your phone would be great, but do we really want to test this kind of stuff when we're trying to vote a fascist (with a penchant for cheating) out of office?
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