Millions of smartphone users confess their most intimate secrets to apps, including personal health information. Unbeknown to most people, in many cases that data is being shared with someone else: Facebook.
What I don’t get is and this may sound controversial, but, when the whole Snowden fiasco happened and everyone found out their privacy is not 100% private, nobody made a peep about it. But you have FB doing a similar thing and the media has become anti FB
It's a vicious cycle, where you need to give crazy permissions to apps to use them and they abuse the shit out of those perms to sell your info for $$. Those buyers spam your apps with targeted ads to get you to spend more $$ on junk and to influece your opinions on stuff.
Privacy is not a thing anymore.
Now spread your cheeks and show us your gps location.
Officially it's against the site's ToS to use it for content you cannot legally access. So using it in the manner people here on Reddit do can get your IP banned from the service.
Honestly though, if they really cared about preventing this type of usage they'd require people create an Account to use the service and make it so each outline is only visible to the person while they are logged in. That way they could block accounts violating ToS and prevent those users from abusing the site for piracy.
> Honestly though, if they really cared about preventing this type of usage they'd require people create an Account to use the service and make it so each outline is only visible to the person while they are logged in.
Not really. Just like you can access YouTube videos without creating an account but it's still illegal and can get you in copyright trouble if you download the video, strip off all ads and start hosting them on your own website. I will have to guess that this website is not big enough to be getting enough eyes yet but I can totally see them get in copyright trouble from publishers soon.
> Just like you can access YouTube videos without creating an account but it's still illegal and can get you in copyright trouble if you download the video, strip off all ads and start hosting them on your own website.
Look at what Google has been doing on that front lately though. They've been slowly but surely adding in more and more controls to make it harder and harder to just download a video at all. Google has had to take increasingly more draconian measures just go avoid being sued by the major media corporations that have begun to move onto YouTube. Outline.com will likely need to take even more draconian measures because I highly doubt they've got a multi billion dollar corporation behind them that can afford the legal fees for such a battle.
Then local, state, and federal requirements are lacking. "Privacy" is taking a new meaning in today's world than what it would have been understood to mean previously. Yes, I think the scope of the concept of privacy needs to expand to match the expanding capabilities of all actors to violate it. We could have more privacy by living like Ted Kaczynski but that's not conducive to participating in today's society.
This headline has been modified from the original, and is a mischaracterization of what's happening here. Facebook isn't collecting this data, rather the authors of many popular apps are sending these statistics to Facebook's analytics tool to better target with ads. The article explains Facebook doesn't want these companies sending users' personal data to them without their knowledge.
They are not completely absolved of blame because they should be monitoring for personal data (somehow), but the app developers should be to blame more using this data without users' knowledge.
Now if Facebook were to use this data for their own purposes, we'd have (another) real scandal on our hands.
For people reading this article and immediately passing judgements on Facebook, do remember that other networks/SDKs including Google, Applovin, Appsflyer - all capture the same information from the app which WSJ is reporting here. Of course, it makes the narrative softer if you blame all tech companies vs. their favorite whipping candidate (which is Facebook) these days.
Here is a question to consider. If Facebook doesn't do this and all other companies do and use that data for optimization and measurement purposes, won't FB unilaterally lose out? The solution is either no one does it or everyone does it. There is no in between.
This is the sort of user information that I am much more interested in defending from overreach (developer misuse, knowingly or unknowingly) vs. activity which actually goes on as a user accesses any fb-owned domain (or within fb's apps)
Of course, there is the stock reply about half way through the article from app Move's owner, Realtor.com:
Fortunately, there has been recognition and action taken against the collection/usage of this sort of third-party information, albeit in Germany.
>There is currently no way to stop the company from collecting the information in the first place, or using it for other purposes, such as detecting fake accounts. Germany’s top antitrust enforcer earlier this month ordered Facebook to stop using that data at all without permission, a ruling Facebook is appealing.
Apple is creating a false sense of privacy with their privacy-focused marketing. I appreciate their efforts building secure products but without a way to block or filter 3rd party app network data they leave their users vulnerable.
Also many ad-blockers that could filter app traffic were nuked from the App Store. I wish there was a way to firewall network traffic in the same way it is possible on other systems.
I've often considered myself a bit of a paranoid freak with my resistance to running apps on my mobile devices. However, this really makes the point of mobile devices questionable for me if I don't really do anything with them because of the fear of not knowing what they really do. While that's all a bit hyperbolic, I'm kind of glad I just don't trust anything. I have a few apps that I use, but I can't really vouch that they are not doing things I don't know about. If it were not for maps, decent web browsing, and a small number of other slightly more useful than just convenient apps, I'd be willing to go back to a feature phone. One I can take the battery out of if I felt the need.
Facebook has always made it almost impossible to delete anything.If you don't delete your activity on facebook every day,you have a buttload of stuff,including all comments.You can go to activity log and you have hundreds of comments,you can delete them one by one.That can take months because they make it hard to do even that.Who cares what you commented on three years ago ? Much of the activity log can not be deleted at all. My activity log gets deleted every day so I don't have years of crap on there.People have been complaining about this for years,but facebook doesn't care.They just want everything they can get about you to make money off you.
This is an important story (along with the NYT one a while back about location data) because it will help move the ball forward on a privacy law in the US. The ad-tech industry is putting all their lobbying muscle in making sure that nothing as strong as GDPR gets passed.
It also makes it more likely that Apple will crack down on third party SDKs, something I've been posting about a lot here.